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Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp

Stottie Kyek posted:

No, no, you see, we're all middle-class now. 99.6% of so-called "proles" have refrigerators, you know.

This is true actually, there's no "proletariat" in the United States and Europe. Just whiny lazy people on the dole. Real poor people live in third world countries in mounds of poo poo on top of each other

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Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
the only people who like communism are either the people in charge of a communist government or those who have never lived in one.

talk to anyone who has actually lived under a communist government and they'll all tell you it was pretty lovely.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Plafop posted:

This is true actually, there's no "proletariat" in the United States and Europe. Just whiny lazy people on the dole. Real poor people live in third world countries in mounds of poo poo on top of each other

your status as a proletarian isnt definied by your material comfort but by your relationship to the means of production yor idoit gweilo

ZeusJupitar
Jul 7, 2009
LF goons are going to be devastated when the socialist utopia comes and instead of choirs of angels descending from on high to take all their problems away its just modern society with better social security and healthcare + maybe you get to vote on your supervisor.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Jose Oquendo posted:

the only people who like communism are either the people in charge of a communist government or those who have never lived in one.

talk to anyone who has actually lived under a communist government and they'll all tell you it was pretty lovely.

there's a shitload of soviet nostalgia in the eastern block dude

Carol Pizzamom
Jul 13, 2006

a bear you feed is a bear and a steed
Yeah ex soviet countries tend to have huge amounts of people who miss the union, there's also people who hate it of course

Most people who came to America hate it, though. A lot of them had really bad things happen to their families. And the people that miss it will usually admit it was far from perfect, but they often live in equally bad or worse conditions currently, because places like Russia have new problems to replace the old

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
people are flawed and favor hierarchy and concentration of resources above all


failure of communism inevitable

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Frog Act posted:

there's a shitload of soviet nostalgia in the eastern block dude

wierd. so weird that the ppl who lost the war miss the time when they hadnt

the fart question
Mar 21, 2007

College Slice
yep putin sure is dumb

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


yaeh it makes sense the eastern bloc is reminiscing about the ussr since russia is owned and run by mobster oligarchs selling the country out from under them.

the nationalism makes sense in that light too.

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

its almost like poo poo countries full of retards are the only countries to ever go commie

like all a russian will ever do is drink and die and no govt can change that. peoples with real sense would never go red to begin with

IzzyFnStradlin
Jun 19, 2004

Oberleutnant posted:

your status as a proletarian isnt definied by your material comfort but by your relationship to the means of production yor idoit gweilo
words have more than one meaning, you know...

noun
1.
the class of wage earners, especially those who earn their living by manual labor or who are dependent for support on daily or casual employment; the working class.
2.
(in Marxist theory) the class of workers, especially industrial wage earners, who do not possess capital or property and must sell their labor to survive.
3.
the lowest or poorest class of people, possessing no property, especially in ancient Rome.

IzzyFnStradlin fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Feb 14, 2015

Benjamin Arthur
Nov 7, 2012

Jose Oquendo posted:

the only people who like communism are either the people in charge of a communist government or those who have never lived in one.

talk to anyone who has actually lived under a communist government and they'll all tell you it was pretty lovely.

It's real cool that you managed to talk to everyone who ever lived in a communist country you should share your travel stories

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Carol Pizzamom posted:

Yeah ex soviet countries tend to have huge amounts of people who miss the union, there's also people who hate it of course

Most people who came to America hate it, though. A lot of them had really bad things happen to their families. And the people that miss it will usually admit it was far from perfect, but they often live in equally bad or worse conditions currently, because places like Russia have new problems to replace the old
russia today is more like america than america

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/4xigsc/jason-jones-live-from-sochi-ish---better-off-red

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

IzzyFnStradlin posted:

words have more than one meaning, you know...

noun
1.
the class of wage earners, especially those who earn their living by manual labor or who are dependent for support on daily or casual employment; the working class.
2.
(in Marxist theory) the class of workers, especially industrial wage earners, who do not possess capital or property and must sell their labor to survive.
3.
the lowest or poorest class of people, possessing no property, especially in ancient Rome.

yea and it can also be defined as those whose only contribution to the state is their children, if you want to talk about the original definition of the term in roman law, but this is a thread cabout communism so durrrr which term do u think is relevant dummy

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
himt: its the one that say IN MARXIST THOERY

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
iM REALLY loving mad ABOUT cOMMUNISM

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012

for the OP i'd go full monty communism

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Noblesse Obliged posted:

for the OP i'd go full monty communism

Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp
I'm a cummunist. The broletariat needs to seize the means of reproduction.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


Russia first proved that communism is bad. Then Russia has proved that capitalism is bad.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


are we going to kill the rich yet? i don't particularly care about communism. killing the rich is all i care about.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

Russia first proved that communism is bad. Then Russia has proved that capitalism is bad.
russia allso proved that feudalism is bad and serfodom. it's like russia is a land from which nothing good may arise.

Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

are we going to kill the rich yet? i don't particularly care about communism. killing the rich is all i care about.

Go ahead, you go first. We'll all be right behind you.

Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp

Oberleutnant posted:

russia allso proved that feudalism is bad and serfodom. it's like russia is a land from which nothing good may arise.

That's because slavs aren't white.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Plafop posted:

That's because slavs aren't white.

:agrered: its because they have all that insrutable asiatic blood in their veins from the mongol yoke.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Oberleutnant posted:

:agrered: its because they have all that insrutable asiatic blood in their veins from the mongol yoke.

I literally read a mainstream history book by a respected author that was like "yeah russians are hosed up because they race-mixed with slant eyed chinamen in the 1300s" :yikes:

Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp

Oberleutnant posted:

I literally read a mainstream history book by a respected author that was like "yeah russians are hosed up because they race-mixed with slant eyed chinamen in the 1300s" :yikes:

He's not wrong.

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

haha plafop you are ~*~*~so~*~*~ racist :3:

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Plafop posted:

He's not wrong.

i think hes wrong

e: i think it was this book buit it was like a year or more agao so i might be mistaken

Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun
Stalin was bad -> all communism is bad

Hitler, Pinochet, Batista, Duvalier, Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Shah Pahlavi etc. etc. were bad -> just something peculiar to each of those guys and their countries and cultures, nothing wrong with the economics at all

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Stottie Kyek posted:

Stalin was bad
let me stop u right ther buster :smug:

Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp

TEAYCHES posted:

haha plafop you are ~*~*~so~*~*~ racist :3:

Race realism isn't racism. It's okay to observe and talk about the genuine differences between the races.

Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp

Stottie Kyek posted:

Stalin was bad -> all communism is bad

Hitler, Pinochet, Batista, Duvalier, Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Shah Pahlavi etc. etc. were bad -> just something peculiar to each of those guys and their countries and cultures, nothing wrong with the economics at all

Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez, Kim. It's extremism, left or right, that is the problem.

Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun
Wait, Chavez and Castro, in with those guys? :confused:

Plafop posted:

Race realism isn't racism. It's okay to observe and talk about the genuine differences between the races.

Yeah, like those wacky Ethiopians who are in the same genetic cluster as Norwegians and Armenians instead of other ethnic groups we typically lump together as Black, none of the differences between the races as they're defined culturally makes sense. I guess if you mean like "south Asians and Arabs are more likely to get beaten up by the British or American police, blacks are more likely to have daft white stoners asking them for drugs", those are genuine differences

Stottie Kyek fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Feb 15, 2015

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
i dont think that gimmick racisim is really shocking or novel enough to carry an entire posting career in gbs these days sorry plafopl :(

i think that if u added a little spice in the form of.... maybe gender biotruths.... no, no thats played out too....

Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp

Stottie Kyek posted:

Wait, Chavez and Castro, in with those guys? :confused:

Brutal dictators that terrorize their countries and cause mass suffering? Whoa hold the phone! I LIKE those guys!

Plafop
Oct 11, 2012

by Ralp

Oberleutnant posted:

i dont think that gimmick racisim is really shocking or novel enough to carry an entire posting career in gbs these days sorry plafopl :(

i think that if u added a little spice in the form of.... maybe gender biotruths.... no, no thats played out too....

Are you one of the male feminist posters that got pissed off when someone mentioned men are better at sports than women and are stronger than women?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Plafop posted:

Are you one of the male feminist posters that got pissed off when someone mentioned men are better at sports than women and are stronger than women?
maybe phrenology or malthusian arguments in favour of sterilising the poor or something.....

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Benjamin Arthur
Nov 7, 2012
Noted dictator Hugo Chavez never won any elections

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