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Jared592
Jan 23, 2003
JARED NUMBERS: BACK IN ACTION
How much would you say she's spent on scratch-offs that weren't winners?

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Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

I win the lottery by not playing it :v:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

leica posted:

I win the lottery by not playing it :v:

I remember once calling it "the idiot tax" in front of my Powerball addicted father. It did not end well.

Jared592
Jan 23, 2003
JARED NUMBERS: BACK IN ACTION
"Proceeds benefit older [State Name]-ians [who spend all their spare money on the lottery]."

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


Jesus Christ y'all are DETERMINED to be some grumpy motherfuckers.

She just bought this ticket on a whim. She doesn't but them very often.

Jared592
Jan 23, 2003
JARED NUMBERS: BACK IN ACTION
Sorry for being a smarmy dick, that is genuinely awesome that she won, congrats.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Haha, that's kind of rare actually, most people I know that play scratch offs spend a lot of money on those things trying to win.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Spend it on cocaine and liquor!

T1g4h posted:

Holy poo poo, sleet is coming down like crazy outside. So glad I had a few big plastic bags on hand so I could wrap my windshield wipers so they don't freeze to the window this time.

Can't you just flip them up so they stick straight out off the windshield?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

ExplodingSims posted:

Jesus Christ y'all are DETERMINED to be some grumpy motherfuckers.

She just bought this ticket on a whim. She doesn't but them very often.

Sorry, I just had to drive through the fuckhole that is Indianapolis. Feeling pissy.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

some texas redneck posted:


Ouch.

I just checked Toyota's own website. An LE has an MSRP of $19.455, after delivery fees, and the nearest dealer is asking $18k before taxes and fees for nearly all of their LEs (a few are $19.5k, I assume because they're a color that's not beige, silver, or white). And there's only a handful of options you can add to it (all dealer addons). The MSRP on the top of the line S+ is $22k (oddly, Toyota's website states it can be had with a 6 speed manual, as can the base L, but it will only let me select a CVT or 4 speed automatic).



Yeah I checked Truecar and Toyota too. I hope 23k was after tax and license, but that's still a bullshit price for a Corolla. I paid 24.1 out the door for my Accord. It's MT, but still, you can get more car for that kind of money. I'm inclined to not make her feel bad and just let her be happy with her new car.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
My wife rarely gambles, but every year when the Spring Racing Carnival* is on she puts a hundred or so dollars into an online betting account to have a flutter. That usually gets her the entire 4 weeks of the peak racing season, and some years she's had around the same amount left over at the end of it. It's money we can afford to blow on dumb poo poo, so why the hell not. Last year, she was putting her money on the horses and accidentally fat-fingered the amount she was betting on a horse, and put $40 each way instead of $4, while she was hurrying to get bets on before the deadline. I said to her, "Oh well, it's fine, I guess racing season is over a little early for you this year".

The horse came first, at $22. Including the money for placing, she picked up over $1200 from that little accident.



*we take horse racing very seriously here; the day of the biggest race in Melbourne is a public holiday

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

jamal posted:

Can't you just flip them up so they stick straight out off the windshield?

You'd think that, but if you try to flip them straight up they hit the back of the hood. Believe me, I tried.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

I used to sell lotto tickets. My boss told me loud and clear that I wasn't to focus on them. If she had her way (and the company had let us) we would have tossed the GTech in the loving street, the lotto display boxes with them, and maybe sometime later called the the Texas Lottery to come pick up the remains.

Some years later I worked for the same company at a different location. There they were so pro-lotto it hurt. You could tell who the crackheads were, they were the ones buying the crossword and bingo flavor of the cards at 3 am - the harder and more complicated the better. They would scratch off a ticket between hits on the crack pipe, and the more complicated tickets meant fewer hits in the night, and thus less money spent.

So glad I don't work there anymore.

([ASK] me why aluminum foil and baking soda were our best sellers!)

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


some texas redneck posted:

I've mentioned several times that i've been wanting to get rid of all of the cable boxes - I'd be saving about $40-50/month by doing so. I already have two HDHomeRun Prime boxes with cable cards (one purchased new, one purchased from the pimper of meat), each of which have 3 tuners each, so that's up to 6 streams on the network.

Stepdad and I have been discussing picking up an old off-lease PC for awhile. It finally happened today; we snagged an off-lease refurb HP DC7700 (small form factor desktop) from Micro Center (actually the last DC7700 they had in the country, they took it off their website after I picked it up), complete with a Windows 7 Professional COA. It's a lower optioned model; 80GB HDD, C2D 1.86 GHz, 2GB RAM. They could be had with as low as a P4 HT w/1GB RAM and a 40GB HDD w/XP, or as high as a C2D 2.67 w/4GB and a 250GB HDD with separate video and Vista Pro. This particular one has the PCI riser that lets you use two full size PCI cards, but blocks the PCI Express slots. It's easy to remove the riser, but you need a new back panel to properly bolt in half height PCI Express cards (turns out the panel is nearly $100 by itself - which is what the entire PC w/keyboard and mouse cost). The Win7 COA states it's a "refurbisher" COA, and the original Vista COA has a big stamp on it stating "NO LONGER VALID".

Holy mother of gently caress is it slow; I blame it on the 80GB HDD and Win7 Pro; it's swapping nonstop, and a drive that size is going to have very low density, and thus, pretty lovely transfer rates (despite being SATA). I have an old Dell P4 2.4 with 2GB RAM and a 38GB Raptor that runs circles around it, also with Win7, serving the exact same purpose. 4 x 1GB DDR2 off brand sticks on Amazon will run less than $30 (the same brand I have in the Dell - Komputerbay).

I never thought I'd say this about an HP, but I'm really impressed with how it's put together - you can even find complete service manuals on their website for it (52 page "quick spec" PDF, 4 or 5 page listing of just part numbers and diagrams, service manuals, owner manuals, etc). The only thing you need a screwdriver for is removing the hard drive (and it's gotta be a funky angled screwdriver) - massive difference between their enterprise and consumer stuff. It's going to serve solely as a TV tuner+DVR, so a cheap drive, a Geforce 210, and a little more RAM should have it working pretty well. There's a Goodwill electronics store nearby, and they generally have DDR2 RAM (the stickler with this is it only accepts up to 1GB sticks, but has 4 slots) and a decent selection of both IDE and smaller SATA drives. A geforce 210 will only run about $20-25. I found the C2D 2.67 GHz chip on Amazon for :20bux: if I feel like giving it a bit more oomph a bit further down the line (it's a direct swap). I may just slap my other Raptor drive in it and call it a day, I just don't want to lose the stock recovery partition. The onboard video is decent enough to handle live TV, but it only does VGA out - the TV it'll be connected to has a VGA input, but you're limited to pretty much basic cable without DVI or HDMI.

Opening that thing up just made me ashamed of how difficult it is to do any physical work in my own PC.

if you need any parts for a dc7700, let me know. We are removing those things from our environment via attrition. We have hundreds. I just took two dolly-loads down to the container for disposal (we use a company that will either repurpose, or part them out.)
Put a decent drive in it, that will help a lot, and maybe bump it to 4 GB (which it will only use 3 GB of with Win 7 32-bit, of course.) We're getting rid of them because of age (corporate environment, but these are mostly in our stores for associate use, so speed not really paramount) and because some of them are exhibiting an interesting issue where the video driver for the on-board video will crash repeatedly. Changing the drive has no effect - the only fix we've found is to replace the system board (we don't want to use a seperate video card.) Other than that they are bulletproof.
I don't know why you would need a screwdriver to remove the hard drive. Ours don't. There should be a release tab to let the drive slide towards the front and out, if it's mounted under the power supply where ours are.
I'll have to look at ours regarding the riser card. I don't remember if ours have that or not.

And yeah, HP business machines from about that era forward are great to work on. They even have extras of the drive mounting screws, both HDD and optical, behind the front panel. I've also got a drawer full of those screws, for the HDD, anyway, if you happen to need a few (dozen).

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Why the gently caress is right clicking not working on SA for me? Every other site no problem, the toolbars no problem. What the gently caress?

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Rhyno posted:

Why the gently caress is right clicking not working on SA for me? Every other site no problem, the toolbars no problem. What the gently caress?

Try restarting your browser, usually solves that issue for me.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



ExplodingSims posted:

Jesus Christ y'all are DETERMINED to be some grumpy motherfuckers.

She just bought this ticket on a whim. She doesn't but them very often.

The most I've ever won from a scratch-off was $15. So yeah, I'm grumpy as gently caress. More so after hearing that one of my relatives managed to match all five numbers on the Powerball and didn't turn in the ticket because they thought it was a non-winning ticket unless they got the PB number, also. :stonklol: :suicide:

I'm always left out of the loop on family business/drama, so no one mentioned it to me until a year or so after they bought the loving ticket.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Fucknag posted:

Try restarting your browser, usually solves that issue for me.

Did it four times, realized I had a window open on the other monitor. Close and restarted, works, thanks!

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


some texas redneck posted:

Just dropped $60 at Monoprice[/url] for a ton of keystone poo poo and short patch cables. Not going to use a patch panel, just going to cut a double gang sized hole in the ceiling of my bedroom closet for a 12 hole keystone plate (also got a mounting bracket for said plate), find a cheap gigabit switch, and I ordered a bunch of 2 ft patch cables. There's also an outlet in the attic by the stairs that happens to be about 10 ft from my closet ceiling, so I'll also be adding a double gang box for two duplex outlets in the closet for the networking poo poo. I plan to run 2 cat5e cables to each existing coax jack (hence the triple keystone plates), that way I can use the existing holes in the attic for the cabling, and use the existing cutouts in the walls for the wall plates.

This is basically how I set up the LAN in my house. The U-verse router also sits in the same closet, so one of the keystones is for the phone line. Looks like an electric octopus trying to crawl down from the attic. :)
I put a 110 block in the attic, connected to one jack of a dual-jack surface mount, through one of the DSL filters. The other die of the jack goes to the keystone. All the phone outlets in the house go to the 110 block, so I only need the one filter. Since I was dropping network, I dropped phone at the same time in each room. Previous phone wiring had been hob-jobbed and mangled by previous owners. All kinds of surface-mount crap, and the lines running around the outside of the house under the soffits.
Of course, I put that all in before WiFi was big. Still using it mostly, though, because we had a weird issue where the WiFi throughput would drop while the signal still remained strong, and wasn;t great to begin with. I think I solved the issue though. On a whim, I set up a WiFi router I bought to replace the WiFI AP part of the UVerse 2-Wire as an AP-only. It still had the same problem, until I plugged it in in a different room, rather than the "network" closet where the 2-wire and all the switches live. Suddenly, I had good, consistent throughput. Apparently, that closet, the equipment in it, or the cabling in there is doing weird things to the WiFi signal. Bizarre.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
The house we just had an offer accepted on was built in '82. I am so not looking forward to ripping out the old coax and installing new coax plus cat6. I will only need to run cat6 in to about 3 rooms but I imagine I'll need to put new coax to every room that has a TV. Uverse only allows 2 wireless receivers but that still leaves 2-3 other TVs. Ah well. Will sort it out once we actually move in

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Memento posted:

This is a chili recipe originally posted to the Elitist Jerks forums by a poster named Slake, who put it into the raiding recipes thread for stuff to make well in advance that you can just nuke and consume. It's without a doubt the best chili I've ever eaten. The recipe calls for it to go into a large pot on the stovetop but it also works really well in a slow cooker. We make rice or cornbread to go with it, and just use jalapenos, mostly because good habaneros are impossible to get here.

http://paste.mdssh.com/sicakojisu.vhdl


Skip the tomato, skip the coriander/cilantro, change the beef to chuck (and skip the mince/ground beef) and it looks good.

Last week i used my slow cooker (weather too hot to use the oven), did porkolt with some creole flavours added.

late edit:

Memento posted:

Nice, we almost never get turkey here to cook with (:australia:) but that recipe looks good. Like, I have never seen ground turkey in a supermarket fridge here, and we only get actual turkeys and turkey breasts around Christmas time.

One thing I use a lot of when a recipe calls for tomato products is passata, it's basically just tinned or bottle tomato puree. Some people don't like having whole or part cooked tomatoes in their food, but having puree'd tomatoes adds the flavour without the texture. Using a teaspoon or two of brown sugar to cut the acidity is a good technique I picked up as well. I don't bother with coating the inside of the pot with oil or cooking spray, and I definitely don't drain the meat after browning it - just throw it all in there.

Good luck with your new culinary toy!

I used to buy turkey a lot in Australia. When it first started coming out in coles and other supermarkets (~2000), they pushed it and sold it cheaper than chicken, so I did a few recipes with turkey mince and diced turkey meat. But as time went by, it went up in price (to around $15/kg while chicken is around $10 for boneless) so I stopped buying it.
Two things about tomatoes/pasata. One is, in the US they can buy tomato sauce in cans, and their tomato sauce is actually passata, not like our ketchup style 'tomato sauce' down here. See my mini rant in the anti-food porn thread to try explain it.
Second thing is, don't put tomato passata/diced tomatoes etc in everything. Don't put it in chili. And you sure wan't need any sugar if you are later on adding a can of cola to it later (not a fan of that, but others like it so it's not a major issue with the recipe)

Putting tomatoes in chili just because, makes every slow cooker recipe all the same. The only thing I put tomatoes in is pasta dishes (inc ragu, bolognese, cacciatore, poulet basquaise), and vegertarian currys (indian or bean stews).
For most other stews or recipes, limit yourself to just a few Tbspns of tomato paste and get different flavours from different stocks, sauces, herbs, adjuncts or bit of sour cream or yogurt addded at the end. Limiting use of tomato helps make everything not taste the nearly the same from the slow cooker.

Ex2: Have to ask slavvy if he's got any good recipes. He was asking about a slow cooker or a pressure cooker about a year ago.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Feb 16, 2015

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Tomarse posted:

Is there someone else in Stoke too?

Good news on the house front! Hope you get it sorted! I'll see you when you get here! Assume the one you have found is where you were looking before?

Thanks, its in Blythe Bridge, right where my wife wanted to be, schools are decent, travel time to work is greatly reduced.

I thought there were more Stoke goons, I know there are a few outside AI but I haven't been in touch with the ones from Trad games for years.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
Just finished watching Interstellar.

What. The. gently caress?

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


Maker Of Shoes posted:

Just finished watching Interstellar.

What. The. gently caress?

We need more movies with sassy monolith robots. :colbert:

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

ExplodingSims posted:

We need more movies with sassy monolith robots. :colbert:

That was the best loving part.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I STAN FOR A SHITHEAD THAT SEXUALLY ABUSES HIS EMPLOYEES
It wasn't as awesome as I hoped but it was still pretty good.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

ExplodingSims posted:

We need more movies with sassy monolith robots. :colbert:

This is the truest thing ever spoken by man. Still though, what the gently caress?

I was on board until 5th dimension book shelf.

Sinestro
Oct 31, 2010

The perfect day needs the perfect set of wheels.
Well, I don't have to wonder about what was going on with my girlfriend. I knew this was coming, but holy poo poo getting ignored for three days including Valentine's Day and breaking up by text message the night after is... Well, there's slowly getting to be less ginger ale in my Moscow Mules...

i hate my life

so much

And I need at least four or five grand more to get my project to be a running and driving car again... I don't know how many years it'll be before I have that...

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

She broke up with you via text message?

What a classy lady. gently caress that chick.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Maker Of Shoes posted:

This is the truest thing ever spoken by man. Still though, what the gently caress?

I was on board until 5th dimension book shelf.

The fetus scene didn't ruin 2001, and the bookshelf scene doesn't ruin interstellar for me. Amazing movie, not sequel trite like everything else.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)



:stonklol:

That sucker had to go through the oven twice to even resemble being fully cooked. I expected Jabba the Hut to answer the door, but he was a pretty ordinary looking guy. I can't imagine he'll live much longer if he keeps eating like that though.

bennyfactor posted:

You're going to hate your life trying to jam 12 of those keystones into that tiny plate, especially with the strain of the cat5 you've punched down into each one of them. I wired up a house a couple years ago with one of these and it was annoying enough shoving all those keystones into it side by side. Additionally some of those models of keystones don't even fit next to each other horizontally. I can't remember if it's the punchdown type you bought or the other kind. Ended up doing about a half of them with keystone couplers and terminating the run with RJ-45s. Honestly, if I were doing this again in the future in a residence, I'd do them all like that. It might not be the best practice but it makes dealing with all the cords a lot easier, and gently caress punching down on those keystone jacks that don't have a level surface on the bottom so they won't lay flat on a table.

Also, have you looked at the windows media center extender devices? You should be able to centrally locate the dvr drives/WMC server in one place and then have those little stbs at each TV. That was my plan until I gave up and just got u-verse boxes. They are poo poo but they work and I did not want to deal with Comcast & getting a m-cable-card out of them.

I made sure to get the slim keystone jacks; the normal ones specifically stated that they could not be used side by side, while the thin ones stated they could. And yeah, they are punch down. I know it's going to be a bitch and a half to populate the entire thing, but two won't be RJ45 - one will be coax, one will be RJ11. I ordered a few extras of everything as well, and I won't be fully populating that 12 hole plate for quite awhile. Initially it'll only have 5 RJ45s, though I do plan to pull double runs to every wall outlet (they'll be punched at the wall, just won't be punched at the other end until I need them).

I considered the panel, and may still go that route, but I don't know how I'd be able to cleanly bring all of the cables into the back of it. The easiest and most accessible way to get the cables into my closet is through the ceiling (I can go up in the attic and just sweep all of the insulation to the side while I work - there's flooring nearby as well, so I won't be having to balance myself on the beams).

I plan to leave more than enough slack in the cables to allow removing the plate and pulling it down at least 2-3 feet. I wasn't planning on putting a box behind it, though I'll have to build something up around it to keep pounds of blown-in insulation from coming along for the ride anytime I remove it.

Worst case, I'll order couplers and add plugs if it winds up being too cramped. No big deal, I still have an RJ45 crimper (.. somewhere).

I did look into extenders, but from what I read, most of them aren't compatible with Windows 8 (which is what my PC runs, and mine is the only one that's on 24/7). They're also pretty expensive for how limited they are (at least, the Ceton Echo is) - while the goal of a PC at each TV is primarily for DVR and TV tuning functionality, it'll also allow anyone to use a computer anytime they want, in any room, and I'll be able to load emulators on them for retro gaming. I'm doing this for more reasons than just ditching the cable boxes; we're getting more and more internet-enabled poo poo, and the wifi penetration in this house is absolutely horrible.

The TV in my bedroom also sits above the closet doors - I was planning on adding those brush-style wall plates (one behind it, one in the closet) to allow the power cord to pass through and connect to one of the outlets that will be installed in the closet. Not really code compliant since a power cord will be passing through it, but it'll get rid of the extension cords hanging down, and also allow me to run the speaker and HDMI cables through the same opening.

I may wind up adding another keystone plate in the closet as well, except for cameras + DVR. There's been a lot of burglaries in the area, and the cheap wifi cameras I have now just murder the network.


Darchangel posted:

This is basically how I set up the LAN in my house. The U-verse router also sits in the same closet, so one of the keystones is for the phone line. Looks like an electric octopus trying to crawl down from the attic. :)
I put a 110 block in the attic, connected to one jack of a dual-jack surface mount, through one of the DSL filters. The other die of the jack goes to the keystone. All the phone outlets in the house go to the 110 block, so I only need the one filter. Since I was dropping network, I dropped phone at the same time in each room. Previous phone wiring had been hob-jobbed and mangled by previous owners. All kinds of surface-mount crap, and the lines running around the outside of the house under the soffits.
Of course, I put that all in before WiFi was big. Still using it mostly, though, because we had a weird issue where the WiFi throughput would drop while the signal still remained strong, and wasn;t great to begin with. I think I solved the issue though. On a whim, I set up a WiFi router I bought to replace the WiFI AP part of the UVerse 2-Wire as an AP-only. It still had the same problem, until I plugged it in in a different room, rather than the "network" closet where the 2-wire and all the switches live. Suddenly, I had good, consistent throughput. Apparently, that closet, the equipment in it, or the cabling in there is doing weird things to the WiFi signal. Bizarre.

I recently discovered two DSL filters still plugged in - we haven't had DSL in this house in over 13 years. One on the master bedroom phone, one on the burglar alarm panel. I learned on the same day that ADT programmed the alarm to sound the siren if the phone line drops (such as when you open the panel to remove the DSL filter). It's monitored via GSM through another company these days, with a very hacked in GSM interface - it only sends a signal if the siren goes off nonstop for 30+ seconds, which rendered the silent panic alarm useless.. along with the fire alarm buttons on the keypads, since they cause the siren to pulse. I guess they didn't know ADT's installer code, or just didn't care to disable that "feature". An added benefit is since the siren sounds when the phone line is disconnected, the police show up as if it's a burglary call. Leaving it disconnected gives a permanent trouble light on every keypad (along with occasional beeping); I really need to figure out ADT's installer code so I can go in and disable that function (I installed the same system in my old apartment myself, the programming for DSC panels isn't difficult).

There's no way I could get all the phone lines in the house into one area - the area over the den is inaccessible without bringing up sheets of plywood, and you have to crawl. There's 2 phone jacks on the other side of the house (kitchen and living room). We can't get DSL again anyway though; when Verizon ran fiber to the subdivision, they disconnected all of the copper. The coax is a clusterfuck as well; as I mentioned, we have dual coax coming into the house, and originally dual coax jacks in every room (A/B). Most of the coax is still in good shape (save for one of two into my room, and the original run from one side of the house to the other - which I got to replace last summer), but I really need to figure out what's what and just leave one cable to each room connected, and cut down on the splitters (there's four 5 port splitters in the attic now). The wiring was sloppy as poo poo to begin with.

I'd rather not put a patch panel in the attic - simply because of the heat. I don't want to be in a 150 degree attic in August trying to figure out why one room has a flaky connection.

I'm just sick of wifi in general, and I think having gigabit in every room may actually add some (minor) value to the house if/when it gets sold. Everything will be documented and labelled obsessively, with each jack labeled. Even the Roku in the next room will sometimes stutter a bit over wifi. The only way I'd consider keeping everything on wifi as it is would be if I moved to 802.11ac - and nothing here supports that.

Darchangel posted:

if you need any parts for a dc7700, let me know. We are removing those things from our environment via attrition. We have hundreds. I just took two dolly-loads down to the container for disposal (we use a company that will either repurpose, or part them out.)
Put a decent drive in it, that will help a lot, and maybe bump it to 4 GB (which it will only use 3 GB of with Win 7 32-bit, of course.) We're getting rid of them because of age (corporate environment, but these are mostly in our stores for associate use, so speed not really paramount) and because some of them are exhibiting an interesting issue where the video driver for the on-board video will crash repeatedly. Changing the drive has no effect - the only fix we've found is to replace the system board (we don't want to use a seperate video card.) Other than that they are bulletproof.
I don't know why you would need a screwdriver to remove the hard drive. Ours don't. There should be a release tab to let the drive slide towards the front and out, if it's mounted under the power supply where ours are.
I'll have to look at ours regarding the riser card. I don't remember if ours have that or not.

And yeah, HP business machines from about that era forward are great to work on. They even have extras of the drive mounting screws, both HDD and optical, behind the front panel. I've also got a drawer full of those screws, for the HDD, anyway, if you happen to need a few (dozen).

Let me know if you run across one without the riser card - if you do, I could use the back panel. It's #5 on page 2 of this pdf (part # 435270-001, low profile back wall). Worst case, I'll just take some tin snips to it to make room for the card I have coming (low profile Geforce 210 - also have 4 gigs of RAM on the way).

I found a back wall on ebay, but it was a bit shy of $100. :stonk: I was just going to cut the back panel enough to give access to the ports otherwise - I suspect most of them shipped with that riser card. A spare power supply could probably come in handy, if your recycling firm won't freak out about one missing. If you do happen to find one with the low profile back wall, I can send the full height back panel + riser if you want.

I haven't noticed any video driver crashes, but I've noticed some odd glitchiness with the onboard video. That was before I flattened it though; it seems fine now.

It has Win7 64 bit (thankfully this one has a Core2Duo instead of the lower spec Pentium 4 HT, so it can actually use 4 gigs). I think it had the wrong image on it though, it was just hammering the drive constantly. I finally flattened it after it did a BSOD when plugging in my wireless keyboard receiver (and couldn't recover)... used a downloaded Win7 Pro ISO (installed with the key on the "Microsoft Refurbished" sticker on the case), and it's a night and day difference. Instead of taking nearly 5 minutes to load Chrome, it's almost instant. And the install it came with was brand new - when I first hooked it up, I got prompted for the product key, and got the "Windows is starting for the first time" crap.

I tossed a 1TB WD Blue drive in it. Not sure how much of a difference that made in speed, since I couldn't even copy the original OS install over (I plugged in the wireless keyboard receiver while installing Acronis, instant BSOD). The original drive is under the PSU like yours, but it has 2 screws for some reason (facing the motherboard :argh:). I just unplugged it and left it in place when I dropped in the 1TB though; at least that way I won't lose it. The 1TB is sitting where the floppy would go, if it had one. I'm sure if I had a properly working OS on the original 80GB I would have noticed a huge difference; I think the original is a 5400 RPM drive, and being 80GB, the density on it is just really low compared to even a 320GB.

I've found conflicting info on whether it can handle 4 or 8 gigs of RAM - are the ones you're working with equipped with 64 bit CPUs? If so, any idea? The only DDR2 RAM I have is made up of 512MB and 1GB sticks, I don't have any 2GB sticks to test that out. As it is I'm buying the cheapest RAM I can find on Amazon (Komputerbay); it worked great in the Dell I found in the alley, figured it'd work in the HP.

As easy as it is to work on, I think next time friends/family are looking for a newer, but basic, computer, I'll send them over to Micro Center to snag an off-lease PC. They don't have them on the sales floor, but you can order them online for in-store pickup. I know I got the last DC7700 they had in the country (open box at that), though I'm sure they'll eventually get more of them.

Overall it's really changed my opinion on HP gear. I always figured enterprise-grade stuff was easier to work on, but I didn't expect everything to be hinged.

e: poo poo, I forgot you're local to me too.

e2: this is how it's sitting now. It's a complete night and day difference since I flattened it and reinstalled with a plain ISO. It's getting moved to the den TV once the video card arrives, along with a a HDMI to component converter, since it's an ancient 39" 1080p CRT. I'd just use a VGA to component cable, but the DRM poo poo won't let you tune to premium channels over an analog connection.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Feb 16, 2015

Sinestro
Oct 31, 2010

The perfect day needs the perfect set of wheels.

T1g4h posted:

She broke up with you via text message?

What a classy lady. gently caress that chick.

Important life lesson learned: there is no "good crazy".

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

Sinestro posted:

Important life lesson learned: there is no "good crazy".

There is, but only if you're looking for casual sex and no attachments. I miss my batshit crazy ex-fuckbuddy / pseudo-date but, yup, I got attached and it crashed and burned.

I'm sorry poo poo didn't work out for you though man :(

Mat_Drinks
Nov 18, 2002

mmm this nitromethane gets my supercharger runnin'

Comrade Flynn posted:

He seems like a really legit dude. You can tell he just loving loves cars.

I had his email from when I recommended a buddy to buy a Diablo from him. Years later another friend asked me if I knew of anyone who would bring some exotics by for a charity function. I pinged Roy out of the blue who said "absolutely" and ended up showing up to this charity event with 3 Lamborghinis.

Right on, that's good to hear. I follow a few of the guys that work there and at the attached detail shop on Instagram. While they seem decent it's always hard to tell and a lot of the dudes in the car scene around here can be asshats. Not that I'm going to be buying anything from them anytime soon, but if I get to that point it's nice to know there is an option.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

some texas redneck posted:



:stonklol:

That sucker had to go through the oven twice to even resemble being fully cooked. I expected Jabba the Hut to answer the door, but he was a pretty ordinary looking guy. I can't imagine he'll live much longer if he keeps eating like that though.

I really thought more people did that, the fact that it's out of the ordinary for you is surprising to me.
I mean, it's something you do once for the novelty factor and then never do it again because it results in a terrible pizza at an insane price, but that one time it's hilarious just to see the mass of toppings (I did it with mass quantities of veggies and had bacon on it just to say there was meat there too).
Of course, Vern's pizza is a thing around here (it's all over AB/SK/MB) and that's basically 1-1.5" of lovely cold cuts stacked on a mediocre pub-style crust/sauce with about the amount of cheese you'd see on an ordinary pizza. Heartburn city, population: meat sweats.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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T1g4h posted:

There is, but only if you're looking for casual sex and no attachments. I miss my batshit crazy ex-fuckbuddy / pseudo-date but, yup, I got attached and it crashed and burned.

I'm sorry poo poo didn't work out for you though man :(

You getting attached doesn't make her crazy. It just means you couldn't separate.

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

Man I got lucky... I was able to install all my network cables behind the walls BEFORE the drywall went up, so my new house is overkill wired- Basically 2x ports in every bedroom, 6x in the office, 4 behind the TV, one out in the shed and 2 for the phone. Cos we have FTTP our phone service is basically VOIP so I can run the voip handset to any room in the house now just by changing stuff out on the patch panel!

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

iwentdoodie posted:

You getting attached doesn't make her crazy. It just means you couldn't separate.

No, I mean she was genuinely batshit loving crazy. As in, hit me in the face with my own shoe crazy. But for some reason I fell for her super hard.

I'm not implying my faults weren't an issue or that IT WAS ALL HER TRUST ME YOU GUYS I'M PERFECT IN EVERY WAY. I'm totally hosed up in my own way and I freely admit that 90% of my problems, I cause. This situation is a little more complex than "I got attached and hosed up so it's all her fault" though.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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T1g4h posted:

No, I mean she was genuinely batshit loving crazy. As in, hit me in the face with my own shoe crazy. But for some reason I fell for her super hard.

I'm not implying my faults weren't an issue or that IT WAS ALL HER TRUST ME YOU GUYS I'M PERFECT IN EVERY WAY. I'm totally hosed up in my own way and I freely admit that 90% of my problems, I cause. This situation is a little more complex than "I got attached and hosed up so it's all her fault" though.

I dunno, getting beaten with your own shoe is pretty goddamn funny in its own right. I mean, abuse is abuse no matter which sex is doing it. But that's still funny, because I just imagined generic white guy being beaten with a wingtip.

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T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

iwentdoodie posted:

I dunno, getting beaten with your own shoe is pretty goddamn funny in its own right. I mean, abuse is abuse no matter which sex is doing it. But that's still funny, because I just imagined generic white guy being beaten with a wingtip.

It's funny when I look back on it, but at the time it was pretty much a sign that I should just end that one. And i'll have you know they were DC's, none of this fancy wingtip nonsense :v:

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