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Dislike button posted:Not to derail but what's wrong with them? Search only turns up something about VAG tuners determining paper filters were better for their sick hellaflush whips with rusted hoods. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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Lots of people over or under oil them, which causes issues. Lots of claims that their filtration isn't as good as a typical paper filter.
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Feb 15, 2015 18:34
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My dad uses K&N oil filters for his truck because they have a thing on the end for a normal wrench and the location is a fucker for anything else.
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Feb 15, 2015 19:52
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Yeah nothing particularly wrong with them unless you dump way too much oil into it and foul up the maf sensor. I prefer the AEM dry filters, and they are the same company now anyway.
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Feb 15, 2015 20:52
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Someone in the UK got suspicious about the amount of fuel remaining in his ST after having it serviced at a Ford dealer, so fitted a dashcam and took it back for some other 'work'. And discovered the technicians took it out and got it up to 118 mph: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWz0YFL1tMI
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Feb 16, 2015 02:04
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drgitlin posted:Someone in the UK got suspicious about the amount of fuel remaining in his ST after having it serviced at a Ford dealer, so fitted a dashcam and took it back for some other 'work'. And discovered the technicians took it out and got it up to 118 mph: How do these monkeys not notice the dashcam? From the video it was right up there by the mirror.
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Feb 16, 2015 02:19
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The Locator posted:How do these monkeys not notice the dashcam? From the video it was right up there by the mirror. If you're stupid enough that you're going to take a customer's car out and run it up to 118, your'e stupid enough to miss the obvious dashcam.
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Feb 16, 2015 02:23
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Lol. When I worked at a Mazda dealer some of the lifers there told me about when the FD first came out and how a bunch of them got wrapped around poles/trees by techs. Way to lose your jobs, fucktards.
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Feb 16, 2015 03:37
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Godholio posted:Lots of people over or under oil them, which causes issues. Lots of claims that their filtration isn't as good as a typical paper filter. Pretty much this. Plus they're damaged a bit easier than a paper filter, simply because they're exposed. The PO of stepdad's F-150 never used one of the brackets, and the filter has been rubbing against something for years - it has a ~3" hole in it. He swears up and down it's fine, but the oil consumption would beg to differ. Only 120k, and it's blowing a bit of smoke here and there. I do love the growl you get from a nice intake, but I also like having to replace the paper air filter maybe every year and a half for about  instead of constantly worrying about how clean the filter is.The Locator posted:How do these monkeys not notice the dashcam? From the video it was right up there by the mirror. Could have been mounted behind the mirror with the display turned off? I have mine mounted to the mirror itself, and the display shuts off after 3 minutes. I can just barely see the bottom edge of it while driving.
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Feb 16, 2015 09:50
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mr.belowaverage posted:I have done literally this exact thing, back when I worked at a Jiffy Lube, and honest to god it's because I thought one guy was a different guy. When you have 80 customers a day, their faces are all the same. Well, it's kind of hard to mix up two Honda Accords when there's only one Honda of any kind in the service bays. Even called out my license plate number.  BIG HEADLINE posted:Never mind the fact that Honda transmissions are finicky enough without having to worry about a poorly-done transmission flush knocking something loose and loving you over royally. The automatics on the 9x Accords pretty much gently caress up at 120-140k like clockwork, and they're almost always total replacement jobs because Honda saw fit to build a transmission that can't be adequately serviced/cleaned/maintained without pretty much taking the whole loving thing out and apart. They're finicky as poo poo about the fluid you use, but aside from the 98-04 V6 autos, they're generally pretty durable. Plus the whole "dude, it's a manual, there is no dipstick" on the car part. 
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Feb 16, 2015 10:24
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A coworker just replaced his beloved 15 year old Civic (someone hit him) with a Mini. I know how insanely bulletproof Civics from that era were so I'm guessing his Mini is going to drive him nuts.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:02
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drgitlin posted:Someone in the UK got suspicious about the amount of fuel remaining in his ST after having it serviced at a Ford dealer, so fitted a dashcam and took it back for some other 'work'. And discovered the technicians took it out and got it up to 118 mph: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWz0YFL1tMI I should know better than to read the comments on youtube videos...But I love the people saying (paraphrased) "I don't get what the problem is. The guy didn't crash it so why is this an issue? I didn't see him hit the rev limiter or do any hard takeoffs." You'd better believe that I'd be pissed if this were me. I don't care if they didn't do any burnouts or hit the rev limiter...a tech doing 120mph on a test drive in my car is going to piss me right the gently caress off.
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Feb 16, 2015 19:10
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Git Mah Belt Son posted:I should know better than to read the comments on youtube videos...But I love the people saying (paraphrased) "I don't get what the problem is. The guy didn't crash it so why is this an issue? I didn't see him hit the rev limiter or do any hard takeoffs." I think that it's the tech's responsibility to ensure the car runs properly under all operating conditions, what if that new bearing starts wobbling at 117MPH?
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Feb 16, 2015 19:39
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Elviscat posted:I think that it's the tech's responsibility to ensure the car runs properly under all operating conditions, what if that new bearing starts wobbling at 117MPH? What, while fleeing from police?
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Feb 16, 2015 19:41
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drgitlin posted:Someone in the UK got suspicious about the amount of fuel remaining in his ST after having it serviced at a Ford dealer, so fitted a dashcam and took it back for some other 'work'. And discovered the technicians took it out and got it up to 118 mph: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWz0YFL1tMI What's the penalty for driving like that in the UK?
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Feb 16, 2015 19:43
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blk posted:What's the penalty for driving like that in the UK? Normally over 100mph = ban in the UK
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Feb 16, 2015 19:49
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blk posted:What's the penalty for driving like that in the UK?
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Feb 16, 2015 19:53
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Git Mah Belt Son posted:I should know better than to read the comments on youtube videos...But I love the people saying (paraphrased) "I don't get what the problem is. The guy didn't crash it so why is this an issue? I didn't see him hit the rev limiter or do any hard takeoffs." Half the comments at the Pistonheads thread were the same.
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Feb 16, 2015 22:12
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Any decent car is going to need to be tested up to 120 just to see if 6th gear is functional.
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Feb 16, 2015 22:34
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CommieGIR posted:What, while fleeing from police? Perhaps one of my family members has been kidnapped by foreign sex traffickers, and I need to chase them down. Or I'm unjustly accused of a crime, and my only chance to prove my innocence is to flee from police before the people who framed me can destroy the evidence clearing my name. If I'm pressure testing a fluid system, I do so up to the maximum pressure that the system was designed for (or slightly higher) even if the system is unlikely to ever reach that pressure, because that's the only way to certify that it will work under any foreseen, or unforeseen circumstance. This brave automobile technician is providing that same service, by testing out 100% of the car's capability, not just 50%ish like most lazy auto-mechanics, hopefully while also testing the stereo at maximum volume, the handbrake functions properly during emergency turns, and ensuring that the rev-limiter works as advertised while shifting gears, anything else just seems half-assed to me.
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Feb 16, 2015 22:48
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blk posted:What's the penalty for driving like that in the UK? You get the choice of driving an Austin Allegro or Morris Marina for the period of your punishment
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Feb 16, 2015 23:30
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warcake posted:Normally over 100mph = ban in the UK Dangerous driving charge, indictable, quite possibly off to federal pound you in the rear end prison if there was any other traffic within sight.
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Feb 17, 2015 00:25
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Friend of mine was charged £8.40 on a service for his Volkswagen to refill the screenwash bottle. Apart from the excessive cost, he was doubly-pissed because he had filled it up the night before to make sure he wouldn't get charged. That was 15 years ago and I have always remembered that whenever I have driven past a VW dealer.
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Feb 17, 2015 16:18
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Elephanthead posted:Any decent car is going to need to be tested up to 120 just to see if 6th gear is functional. What the hell kind of gearing must a car have such that you need to be going 120mph until you can shift into sixth without lugging it 
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Feb 17, 2015 16:24
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spog posted:Friend of mine was charged £8.40 on a service for his Volkswagen to refill the screenwash bottle. I don't know if service departments get pressure from above to wring every last dollar out of us, but that seems like the only viable explanation. They could probably generate a lot of loyalty if they weren't seemingly built to gently caress every last one of us over. I mentioned it already, but charging 60$ for an air filter change is insanity. If they even pretended to be doing things on the up-and-up I'd be willing to bet most people would be willing to have their vehicle serviced there. I just don't get the upside for them to screw people over so often. Are there enough suckers to build their entire business model around it?
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Feb 17, 2015 17:09
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spog posted:Friend of mine was charged £8.40 on a service for his Volkswagen to refill the screenwash bottle. "But the washer tank must be filled at the dealer! You see, if you use the incorrect fluid, you'll damage the level sender and have a warning light on the dash until it is replaced!"  http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?6928744-Rainx-de-icer-killing-washer-fluid-sensors
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Feb 17, 2015 17:17
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poo poo like labor for air filters and filling wash bottles should be customary to show appreciation. Like when I bartend, if you have a decent tab going I throw in a couple free drinks on the house, or if you're a regular you get a free beer now and then. It's nice to show some loving appreciation but dealerships are the opposite and TRY to make you feel like you're a sucker or get you mad enough to want to kill somebody. A little appreciation would go a long way, but they're all too stupid and busy nickle and diming everyone to figure it out.
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Feb 17, 2015 17:25
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leica posted:poo poo like labor for air filters and filling wash bottles should be customary to show appreciation. Like when I bartend, if you have a decent tab going I throw in a couple free drinks on the house, or if you're a regular you get a free beer now and then. It's nice to show some loving appreciation but dealerships are the opposite and TRY to make you feel like you're a sucker or get you mad enough to want to kill somebody. A little appreciation would go a long way, but they're all too stupid and busy nickle and diming everyone to figure it out. The BMW dealership in Virginia Beach does this. Every time my friend drops either of his cars off , they air the tires up to his preferences, fill the washer fluid, and vacuum the thing out. Free of charge. He bought a 325xi from them new, traded it for a 535i, and has had every scrap of service on them done there. His wife's car came from Carmax, but it gets its service at that BMW dealership, too. He says the price is reasonable, but his calibration of "reasonable price" is off to most people.
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Feb 17, 2015 17:40
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NoWake posted:"But the washer tank must be filled at the dealer! You see, if you use the incorrect fluid, you'll damage the level sender and have a warning light on the dash until it is replaced!" No, really.
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Feb 17, 2015 18:08
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At the shop I worked at, we checked and topped off the coolant (it was a Rover/Jag shop ), tire pressure, washer fluid, and 9/10 times if they were in for a major service we would wash their car and detail the interior as well, all free of charge. Every car also got every light checked before it left the shop, and if any were burned out we replaced them for free as well. And this was at a tiny two bay, three man shop. The poo poo that dealerships charge for and the amount they charge for it is completely disgusting.
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Feb 17, 2015 18:13
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LeeMajors posted:I just don't get the upside for them to screw people over so often. Are there enough suckers to build their entire business model around it? Pretty much this. Most people have no idea how cars work or how much it should cost to do things, so the dealer can tell them whatever they want. They also thing the dealership is the only place they can have their car worked on.
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Feb 17, 2015 18:13
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jamal posted:Pretty much this. Most people have no idea how cars work or how much it should cost to do things, so the dealer can tell them whatever they want. They also thing the dealership is the only place they can have their car worked on. That, in addition to the flawed reasoning that the dealer actually knows their cars because they're associated with whatever brand, and the ads you see and hear that use scare tactics to convince you only to use  genuine *manufacturer* parts and service lest you end up dying in a fiery explosion of poor imitation parts and service. Add in the idea that higher cost = better and the vast majority of people do get suckered in, unfortunately.
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Feb 17, 2015 18:21
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jamal posted:Pretty much this. Most people have no idea how cars work or how much it should cost to do things, so the dealer can tell them whatever they want. They also thing the dealership is the only place they can have their car worked on. It's kind of hosed up. It's hard enough to find a trust-worthy shop that does good work, that you'd think the dealer would at least do good (if expensive) work. Instead they push unnecessary services on you and put you in a high-pressure sales situation, do poor work, and charge incredible amounts for menial tasks. Both of the Toyota's in my city give a 'COMPLIMENTARY WASH AND VACUUM ,' but it's never actually been done. Shows up on the paperwork though. What's the point?
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Feb 17, 2015 18:33
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CornHolio posted:What the hell kind of gearing must a car have such that you need to be going 120mph until you can shift into sixth without lugging it Its not quite the same but the 6 speed auto in the new 200 series landcruiser behind the V8 Diesel was copping a LOT of flack because it would BARELY drop into 6th gear at 110kph and even the faintest whiff of a hill or the right foot would make it drop back a cog instantly. you needed to be doing about 140kph for it to actually STAY in 6th without hunting gears and toyota actually changed the programing to make it stay in 6th more.
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Feb 17, 2015 20:52
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spog posted:Friend of mine was charged £8.40 on a service for his Volkswagen to refill the screenwash bottle. Because truck drivers can't change their own headlight bulbs, they call our breakdown service out which can end up costing over £200 to change one bulb. I think our "genuine" washer fluid is about £6 a bottle, and if you get charged 0.1 hours to top it up at £100 an hour it gets stupid really quickly.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:06
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warcake posted:Because truck drivers can't change their own headlight bulbs, they call our breakdown service out which can end up costing over £200 to change one bulb. Not our fault you changed to those fancy projectors with magic crap! Also here in the states the CSA points to driving with a headlight out it's 18 points.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:25
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InterceptorV8 posted:Not our fault you changed to those fancy projectors with magic crap! For comparison, the Volvo truck I was in would lose headlights all the time, but it was a $15 part that I could do myself.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:41
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$150 for the whole housing is pretty good. The generic 7" headlights that fit a Wranger or Harley run more than that.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:23
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poo poo, the Jiffy Lube I used to go to when I didn't feel like changing the oil in my Mustang in a foot of snow used to top up the wiper fluid and coolant, vacuum out the rugs, and give me a coupon for a free wash at the attached car wash, even with the $21.99 cheapass special. They did tell me that my battery "didn't have enough amps left" one time though, and that battery (barely) lasted an entire 'nother year.
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Godholio posted:$150 for the whole housing is pretty good. The generic 7" headlights that fit a Wranger or Harley run more than that. What kind of loving fancy-rear end sealed beams are you seeing for $150?! You can get H4 conversion housings for less than that.
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