Ferguson and St. Louis are merely symptoms of larger problems regarding the American police force and justice system. Cleaning up Ferguson doesn't clean up St. Louis. Cleaning up St. Louis involves essentially replacing large chunks of the government, and still doesn't solve any of the other cities that pull the same bullshit. NYC is still going strong and is even trying to get itself an "anti-terrorist" (really anti-protester) force with armored trucks and mounted machine guns.
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Everblight posted:Reminder that 6 cops who literally shot at black people like zombies in Dawn of the Dead won't go to jail. ...because their conviction was overturned due to misconduct by the USA? I mean unless you think the prosecutor intentionally sabotaged his career by throwing this case?
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# ? Mar 5, 2015 00:03 |
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What is an occupancy permit? Do they have to tell the city who lives at their house in Ferguson?
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# ? Mar 5, 2015 00:12 |
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DoJ is angry who cares, he got away with what matters, and that's ending the life of a black man, to the cheers and wingnut welfare of millions.
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# ? Mar 5, 2015 00:14 |
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Well Chris Matthews (amongst many Liberals I'm sure) is pissed how Netanyahu tried to takeover US foreign policy.
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Grouchio posted:Well Chris Matthews (amongst many Liberals I'm sure) is pissed how Netanyahu tried to takeover US foreign policy. Congratulations Bibi, you will go down in history as the guy who destroyed the bipartisan US support for Israel. Not that I mind.
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Deadulus posted:What is an occupancy permit? I found a little info on residential occupancy permits from their website. However, I can't find a copy of the permit itself. It does say that an inspection is required in case of a change in occupancy and/or ownership, so they may consider someone not on the permit living in the house to be a violation. Of course the cops wouldn't give a poo poo because they're Ferguson cops, and could just say "Welp, I think the boyfriend is living here" and arrest the person. They don't give a poo poo about convictions, because that's not the point of competing to see who can get the most citations and arrests. The purpose is to keep everyone rolling in cash by piling on fines and fees (and preying on the poor who will suffer "I can't pay the fine" fines that roll over in a constant feedback loop) and to keep the populace downtrodden and under their thumb through frivolous arrests.
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chitoryu12 posted:I found a little info on residential occupancy permits from their website. However, I can't find a copy of the permit itself. It does say that an inspection is required in case of a change in occupancy and/or ownership, so they may consider someone not on the permit living in the house to be a violation. Of course the cops wouldn't give a poo poo because they're Ferguson cops, and could just say "Welp, I think the boyfriend is living here" and arrest the person. I am afraid none of this will be ended because the DoJ and American politics due to far right idiocy has dissuaded the DoJ and Holder from taking over the department due to the current Republicans legal reasoning of UNCONSTITUTIONAL WHILE BLACK!
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Larry Klayman vows to make the Hillary e-mail scandal a thing which will dog her for months.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Larry Klayman vows to make the Hillary e-mail scandal a thing which will dog her for months.
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Deadulus posted:What is an occupancy permit? According to the report, they have a permit to rent the place.
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Deadulus posted:What is an occupancy permit? Its just strange that posting on a newspaper website is enough to overturn a cop's conviction, but non-cops get jury pools with "I heart your victims" wristbands.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Larry Klayman vows to make the Hillary e-mail scandal a thing which will dog her for months. Will he fool Warrens acolytes into getting her to challenge Hillary? I'm already wanting Bernie to sit this out if he's just gonna be commie Jim Webb.
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JT Jag posted:He has a terrifying resume, that's for sure. Sounds like a rad dude. quote:Following Klayman's behavior in a 1992 trial in California federal court, Judge William Keller barred Klayman from his courtroom for life; five years later, in a separate case in New York, Klayman's behavior led then district judge Denny Chin to issue a lifetime ban on the attorney practicing law before him.[34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Klayman
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hobbesmaster posted:...because their conviction was overturned due to misconduct by the USA? Also, they weren't found not guilty, they had a retrial ordered which is still ongoing.
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# ? Mar 5, 2015 00:53 |
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Obligatory reminder that that's a photo of a guy throwing a tear gas canister back so that it doesn't hurt children.
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Guilty Spork posted:Obligatory reminder that that's a photo of a guy throwing a tear gas canister back so that it doesn't hurt children. No he's destroying property his betters spent all their lives building, didn't you read the rest of the Internet during the event?
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Sounds like a rad dude. jesus, this guy sued his own mother. also poo poo like this ( http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/biden-and-panetta-sued-by-navy-seal-team-vi-and-special-ops ) enrages me to know end. Basicaly, he is using dead soldiers families grief to sue the Obama administration. sure it will never see light in courtroom but he will get to play hero for his shithead tea party friends.
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Another item from the 114th Congress Bingo Card: The White House has issued a veto threat against a bill that would prohibit the EPA from using "secret science" in its rule making (i.e. scientific studies with confidential patient information withheld for privacy reasons). The new bill also limits EPA funding for making such information public to $1 million per year, effectively forcing the EPA to halve the number of studies it performs per year. A related bill which would loosen regulations on industry scientists serving on EPA advisory boards while restricting academic scientists from using unpublished science on the same and mandating such boards respond to all public comments (regardless of quantity or quality) has also been issued a veto threat.
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# ? Mar 5, 2015 01:49 |
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Republican leaders just can't help loving up the opposition to the US-Iran negotiations. First Boehner invites Bibi to give a speech without telling the White House, turning that into a partisan issue, now Mitch McConnell is bringing the Menendez-Corker bill that would require any US-Iran deal to be reviewed and approved by Congress. The bill had been introduced in the Foreign Relations committee last week with Menendez and five other Democrats supporting it, enough to get cloture when it got to the floor, and was going through markup, the process where the committee reviews and amends the bill. Then Mitch decided that wasn't quick enough and that it needed to be voted on first thing next week, so he pulled it from the committee and started the floor process yesterday. Menendez freaked out about this and he, along with all the other Democratic supporters are now pledging to vote against it. Corker has said he now expects the cloture vote to fail.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Another item from the 114th Congress Bingo Card: The White House has issued a veto threat against a bill that would prohibit the EPA from using "secret science" in its rule making (i.e. scientific studies with confidential patient information withheld for privacy reasons). The new bill also limits EPA funding for making such information public to $1 million per year, effectively forcing the EPA to halve the number of studies it performs per year. This is the hill they'll win on.
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Nonsense posted:This is the hill they'll win on.
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site posted:You think they'll get enough votes to override vetoes on both? Conservatives rightly noted how close the vote was on this veto-override. They'll win on the EPA, it's bad for business, hurting it is good for business. The Iran-Deal is hosed up of them though, they'll lose on that.
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Nonsense posted:Conservatives rightly noted how close the vote was on this veto-override. They'll win on the EPA, it's bad for business, hurting it is good for business. The EPA thing is too extreme, pharmaceutical companies should be freaking out about republicans loving with patient privacy in federal research.
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/southasia/2015/03/ambassador-attacked-south-korea-150304232100655.html Ambassador Mark Lippert was attacked in South Korea. The attacker previously attacked the Japanese Ambassador in 2010
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CommieGIR posted:http://www.aljazeera.com/news/southasia/2015/03/ambassador-attacked-south-korea-150304232100655.html Luckily SK prison is accommodating and comfortable, and the nation has underutilized capital punishment, get to work.
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I was pretty dismissive of the Hilary email thing at first but how much power does the Benghazi panel have to access that email account now? The crossroads of a personal/professional email and a witch hunt congressional investigation could be a seriously big deal.
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Good Citizen posted:I was pretty dismissive of the Hilary email thing at first but how much power does the Benghazi panel have to access that email account now? The crossroads of a personal/professional email and a witch hunt congressional investigation could be a seriously big deal. Prediction: she will comply with the subpoena by sending a printed stack of all the emails referencing Benghazi to the panel, which will be a sub-set of the emails she's already provided to the government for review.
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Von Sloneker posted:I dipped into a Hot Air comments section to see what the consensus is. There are three reactions: Hot Air really doesn't get enough play here. The comments section is a marvelous mess of Freepy folks and the actual editorial content is a mix of Freep/Shills/Insanity. It also seems to be doing okay in terms of readership, not hugely, but enough to be somewhat relevant.
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Joementum posted:Prediction: she will comply with the subpoena by sending a printed stack of all the emails referencing Benghazi to the panel, which will be a sub-set of the emails she's already provided to the government for review. Looks like its time for a House Special Committee on Archival Records and Transparency e: Man, it feels like its 1995 and its not even 2016 yet!
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Joementum posted:Prediction: she will comply with the subpoena by sending a printed stack of all the emails referencing Benghazi to the panel, which will be a sub-set of the emails she's already provided to the government for review. One of which will be a giant dick written in tiny little Benghazis.
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Reading articles about the DOJ's decision about the Ferguson police, I can't figure out concretely what the crucial "or what" part of their instructions for improvements is. I learned early on as a teacher that without an "or what", instructions, advice and rules are all meaningless. One article even says "Eric Holder calls on..." which I understand as code for there not being an "or what".
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A lawsuit, perhaps? I know that places like Las Vegas has received this sort of same report, and enacted DOJ's recommendations. There has to be an incentive there.
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Shageletic posted:A lawsuit, perhaps? I know that places like Las Vegas has received this sort of same report, and enacted DOJ's recommendations. There has to be an incentive there.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Reading articles about the DOJ's decision about the Ferguson police, I can't figure out concretely what the crucial "or what" part of their instructions for improvements is. A consent decree is usually the most the DoJ can pull off.
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Trabisnikof posted:A consent decree is usually the most the DoJ can pull off.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Looking up "consent decree", it means the police would not have to admit they did wrong? What is THIS poo poo? Getting them to admit they did something wrong is no where near as important as getting policy changed. quote:The 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, passed following the savage 1991 beating of African American motorist Rodney King by four LAPD officers and the catastrophic Los Angeles Riots a year later, gave the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice an extraordinary mandate. (http://www.thecrimereport.org/news/articles/2014-07-police-reforms-best-tool-a-federal-consent-decree)
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Ah okay, so Ferguson will just be joining into an agreement with the DOJ that has benefitted (though I doubt they look at it that way) many other police departments before? I guess that's good. edit: does this only have to happen after bloody disasters though? Is there any way it can prevent them instead? Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:Ah okay, so Ferguson will just be joining into an agreement with the DOJ that has benefitted (though I doubt they look at it that way) many other police departments before? I guess that's good. Its either that or the DoJ sue to try and force FPD to accept the consent decree (Or do nothing).
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The fact the the doj would have to sue them is disgusting.
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