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Kegluneq posted:He punched Piers Morgan years ago and no-one cared. That's Piers Morgan, though. Everyone wants to punch Piers Morgan.
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Kegluneq posted:He punched Piers Morgan years ago and no-one cared. yeah but piers morgan's a oval office
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Venomous posted:Of course it's nuts, but it seemed nuts that the Tories would go into coalition with the Lib Dems in 2010. Stranger things have happened. I don't remember it being 'nuts' at all? It was a rather natural pairing.
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Venomous posted:senior Tories are calling for a coalition with Labour
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Kegluneq posted:He punched Piers Morgan years ago and no-one cared. I thought he should have been off TV years ago, add that to the pile of reasons Clarkson is a shitheel and should derive no special treatment.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:26
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So the contracts for the presenters were up this year anyway? Clearly, this whole brouhaha is a way to go with a bang, then cheaply purchase the rights to the show back from the BBC in a few years after the brand has tanked in value through lack of ratings because no one likes it without the holy trinity of middle aged curmudgeons, at which point the three of them bring it back as an online only broadcast show and make yet more millions.
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Pissflaps posted:I don't remember it being 'nuts' at all? It was a rather natural pairing. Not by their campaign, it was populist as all hell. From their manifesto:  They seemed further to the left than Labour at the time.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:37
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Get rid of Clarkson and Top Gear can bring back Angela Rippon.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:38
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Kegluneq posted:He punched Piers Morgan years ago and no-one cared. https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/574935393855897600
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quote:So the contracts for the presenters were up this year anyway? Clearly, this whole brouhaha is a way to go with a bang, then cheaply purchase the rights to the show back from the BBC in a few years after the brand has tanked in value through lack of ratings because no one likes it without the holy trinity of middle aged curmudgeons, at which point the three of them bring it back as an online only broadcast show and make yet more millions. Sky and ITV have been trying to lure them away for years so I could see Raeg Pot becoming a thing on Sky if the BBC version is canned. (I have to confess I quite like the travel bits of the show. It's me. I'm history's greatest monster.)
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Mar 11, 2015 17:43
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Zephro posted:Sky and ITV have been trying to lure them away for years so I could see Raeg Pot becoming a thing on Sky if the BBC version is canned. Top gear earns something like £50M/year (far less than it could if it were syndicated and market competently in say, the us) it's too big to fail
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Mar 11, 2015 17:58
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Pork Pie Hat posted:Get rid of Clarkson and Top Gear can bring back Angela Rippon. I'd sign that petition.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:05
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Malcolm XML posted:Top gear earns something like £50M/year (far less than it could if it were syndicated and market competently in say, the us) actually wonder how much of that is from DVD residuals and Dave re-runs that the BBC would continue to get after Clarkson's been exiled. obviously a minority chunk. but just curious.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:09
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Cerv posted:actually wonder how much of that is from DVD residuals and Dave re-runs that the BBC would continue to get after Clarkson's been exiled. Most of their money comes from the tours and top gear dvd's that clarkson/hammond poo poo out every christmas. The TV syndication is peanuts and every season gets a new rate, so the second you remove the 3 guys from it, no-one wants it anymore. A new show, aggressively marketed would destroy the numbers they do at the moment.
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serious gaylord posted:Most of their money comes from the tours and top gear dvd's that clarkson/hammond poo poo out every christmas. The TV syndication is peanuts and every season gets a new rate, so the second you remove the 3 guys from it, no-one wants it anymore. A new show, aggressively marketed would destroy the numbers they do at the moment. Anyway I think just replacing Clarkson is unlikely to work. The new format was the brainchild of him and Andy Wilman and I just don't think that many people would watch if he wasn't presenting. It's a buddy show based around him and the other two presenters being idiots. It's Last of the Summer Wine but with cars. I don't think you could recreate those interactions with new presenters, or at least not immediately.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:27
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Zephro posted:Are you sure? Not doubting you, but just curious that the syndication is worth "peanuts". See every version of the show thats been attempted around the world and why they were all uniformly awful. Modern top gear is an accident that happened over 10-15 years of slight tweaks every season.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:30
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Prince John posted:Clarkson is such a lovely human being, apparently he punched the producer because he didn't have dinner ready for him. "He just snapped!" That's Piers Morgan's old paper. Clarkson is undoubtedly an rear end in a top hat, but it's best to be careful with their coverage.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:36
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Keep May and add two young guys, the interaction comes from him trying to keep them in line like an overwhelmed father/teacher. After a few years farm him off and get a woman on to keep the lads in check. Job done.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:45
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Darth Walrus posted:That's Piers Morgan's old paper. Clarkson is undoubtedly an rear end in a top hat, but it's best to be careful with their coverage. I think linking the daily mail should be a punishable offence.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:47
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Top Gear's appeal is exactly what people also hate about it. Look at twitter and you see everyone blaming Jeremy's suspension on left wing feminist lesbians wanting shows about feelings rather than him punching a man.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:48
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josh04 posted:Hey UKMT, I've just released a short documentary interviewing activists representing the occupation at Warwick back in December, thought you might want to have a look. Hey, nobody commented on this, but thanks for this and well done. I am still loosely attached to the university even though I left the UK and I was pretty shocked when i heard about what happened, and pretty disgusted with the email that was sent by the chancellor, Nigel Thrift afterwards, in which he complains, among others about the protests causing £6000 in damage, which would be less than a weeks' wage for him. I've had a great time at the Life science department at Warwick and met some wonderful students there, but the higher you went up the ladder the more lovely people tended to become. EDIT: also Jeremy Clarkson is a poo poo and I hope he is gone. What are the chances that the UKIP will add 'bring back Top Gear' to their manifesto?
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Mar 11, 2015 18:49
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serious gaylord posted:I think linking the daily mail should be a punishable offence. Mirror, not Mail. You make a compelling point about the Daily Mail regardless.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Top Gear's appeal is exactly what people also hate about it. Look at twitter and you see everyone blaming Jeremy's suspension on left wing feminist lesbians wanting shows about feelings rather than him punching a man. It's political correctness gone maaaaaaaaaaaaad!
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Extreme0 posted:Please post this picture. As the masochistic genie said, your command is my wish: 
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Sorry for the double-post, I wanted to separate business from pleasure.Zephro posted:Late to the party here but large swathes of Japan use bottled LPG and they don't seem to have a problem with fires, so it's probably fine. I analysed liquid heating fuels prices a few years ago and found it was always cheaper to top up as you went than to empty the tank and buy with bulk discount. Here's a chart of kerosene prices from 2009 to date:  (Note that everything after September 2013 should be roughly 5.5p/litre higher, as that's when they stopped folding supplier margins into the base price.) There are small seasonal drops, but on the whole they are outweighed by increases in the base price of oil.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Top Gear's appeal is exactly what people also hate about it. Look at twitter and you see everyone blaming Jeremy's suspension on left wing feminist lesbians wanting shows about feelings rather than him punching a man.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:05
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Zephro posted:Pretty much. This is rather weirdly being presented as some kind of straight-talking free speech issue, when really the question is "did he punch the producer in the face or not". You can't even punch people in a lower tax bracket in the face without old Red Ed having something to say about it, political correctness gone mad.
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I suppose the question is does Clarkson decking a producer mean that the actual programmes have to be stopped from going out, given how important they are to the BBC in terms of prestige and ratings, and also that a lot of other people work on the shows and why should they suffer?
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thehustler posted:I suppose the question is does Clarkson decking a producer mean that the actual programmes have to be stopped from going out, given how important they are to the BBC in terms of prestige and ratings, and also that a lot of other people work on the shows and why should they suffer?
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e: yeah but this week's episode was already filmed, as I understand? I wonder if the Beeb were hoping that the act of stopping the show broadcasting would get the public on their side via a logical process that might have gone: Clarkson punch a guy>show cancelled cause Clarkson punched a guy>it's Clarkson's fault the show was cancelled with the resulting public backlash against Clarkson giving them the public mandate to sack him? Cause looool if that's what they were thinking.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Top Gear's appeal is exactly what people also hate about it. Look at twitter and you see everyone blaming Jeremy's suspension on left wing feminist lesbians wanting shows about feelings rather than him punching a man. It's like the Benghazi of British politics or something. edit: quote:e: yeah but this week's episode was already filmed, as I understand?
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Mar 11, 2015 19:19
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Zephro posted:It's like the Benghazi of British politics or something. No the British Benghazi was Bigotgate.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:38
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KKKlean Energy posted:No the British Benghazi was Bigotgate. That the one where Gordon Brown correctly identifies a bigot and we were supposed to be all shocked and disgusted with him.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:54
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Come on Guardian you can do better than this. http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/mar/11/jeremy-clarkson-suspended-eco-feminist-top-gear
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Mar 11, 2015 19:56
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Ludicro posted:Come on Guardian you can do better than this. At what, driving sweet sweet clicks to the site? I reckon they'll do all right!
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Mar 11, 2015 19:59
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Ludicro posted:Come on Guardian you can do better than this. "Lets make a feminist, racially sensitive Minstrel show."
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Maybe Channel 4 could sell them Scrapheap Challenge, which is like all the fun Top Gear vehicle building challenges without all the horrible opinions. Or the BBC could bring back Robot Wars, that show was great. You don't need Clarkson to make a fun programme about engineering and machines. Or if they wanted to keep it about cars, replace him with Steve Coogan or Rowan Atkinson - they're both funny and know a lot about cars but aren't terrible people (AFAIK, are they on the History's Greatest Monster list?).
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Gonzo McFee posted:That the one where Gordon Brown correctly identifies a bigot and we were supposed to be all shocked and disgusted with him.
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I fully support Clarkson loving right off if it means we get Robot Wars back. Bloody loved that show.
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Acaila posted:I fully support Clarkson loving right off if it means we get Robot Wars back. Bloody loved that show. Good thing the host of that show was never involved in any controversy.
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