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CottonWolf posted:Does that actually happen in the latest build? As far as I could tell I never used to in previous.
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Mar 18, 2015 11:09
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Sensuki posted:I think it was dropped. I can see why too. Yeah. It would be hellish to balance. They should really change the text at chargen then, though.
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Ok new debate: Apparently we each get to make 8 mercenary adventurers to hang out at our keep or take along on quests. What builds are people thinking of for those guys? So far it sounds like I want to try at least one Bleak Walker arquebusier paladin. Do people have any good suggestions for Barbarian or Monk builds? Priests that aren't of Magran?
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Mar 18, 2015 11:12
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Ok new debate: I'd probably just fill it with every character build I couldn't use as my main my first time through (which is still going to be a gun-centric cypher I think). I'd say a damage-soaking damage-aura paladin melee person, then a shotgun-toting Orlan rogue, maybe some kind of druid since I never got the hang of them in the beta proper.
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Question about druids: is there ever a reason to not be spiritshifted?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Ok new debate: Honestly don't know, if it's a total of 15 companions (+MC), that'd be 3 parties you could build? I'd try to build them diverse to be able to handle various different situations I suppose. 3 different core parties. But I'm most curious if "Backgrounds" will have any impact on the Stronghold (Laborer=Builds faster/cheaper, Scholar=Bonus to Library etc.). Suikoden-esque. I doubt it's a thing, but, you know, curiosity~
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Mar 18, 2015 11:28
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MC Nietzche posted:Question about druids: is there ever a reason to not be spiritshifted? Yeah I believe it has a short-ish duration.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Do people have any good suggestions for Barbarian or Monk builds? Priests that aren't of Magran? Question for people who've played the beta on hard: Does Medreth receive an invisibility ability / potion at this difficulty level? Because I hit him with the wizard's summoned vampiric stave and all of a sudden I can see his selection circle on the map, his name and lifebar are still there, but his body isn't in the picture and he cannot be targeted. I don't know if this is a bug. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Mar 18, 2015 11:43
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Basic Chunnel posted:Question for people who've played the beta on hard: Does Medreth receive an invisibility ability / potion at this difficulty level? Because I hit him with the wizard's summoned vampiric stave and all of a sudden I can see his selection circle on the map, his name and lifebar are still there, but his body isn't in the picture and he cannot be targeted. I don't know if this is a bug. It's a bug, if you look a bit closer you can still see his stilettos making attacks, but his mesh is gone. I reported it a few days ago.
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Mar 18, 2015 12:09
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I am going to make every playable character from Ar Tonelico 2 because I am a giant dork. So that's three chanters, a lance-wielding paladin, a polearm/staff rogue, a sword and board fighter or barbarian because you can't dual wield shields, a bow priest, and... wait, the last guy is a wolf. I guess he'll be a ranger's pet. 
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Mar 18, 2015 12:13
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Still feels like yesterday when I backed this game and watched that celebratory livestream and whatnot. Feels weird that it's going to be out in a week.
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Mar 18, 2015 12:34
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Sensuki posted:Yeah I believe it has a short-ish duration. It does, yeah. In some longer fights, one won't be able to stay spirit-shifted the entire fight. Also, it would depend on how you build your Druid and party composition of course. In my latest beta playthrough, I tended to keep the Druid more in the back with ranged weapons and sent him up front (spirit-shifted) when needing more oomph on the frontlines. Probably not the optimal way to play the class but it worked very well for my party.
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I was thinking about building a Hearth Orlan rogue with all the crit improving talents ( Dirty Fighting, Vicious Fighting, Vicious Slaughter, The Merciless Hand if i can get it). Add in a paladin with Zealous Focus + Critical Focus maybe. That was really fun in the last beta build with Tall Grass ( + 10 % hit to Critical hit range, chance to knockdown enemies on critical hit), almost every hit knocked somebody to the ground. Pike is the perfect weapon for a melee that does not tank, just stay safe behind the tanks. But extended range is the pike's only bonus, and that does not really help with my crit build idea. I was looking at the weapons and apparently battle axes give even more damage on critical hits, that seems like it would stack well. But then I noticed the damage type is slash, and that seems to be rather useless. All armors are weaker to crush or pierce, and it seems many monsters as well, so whats the point of using slashing damage weapons at all ? Maybe two rapiers would be better, with more accuracy translating into more critical hits.
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Mar 18, 2015 12:52
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Probably getting ahead of myself, but I'm already planning my party composition to eventually try every class and companion in two playthroughs. Chanter and five companions first, then a Monk plus the leftover companions and custom Barbarian+Rogue. Really tempted to swap one of those main characters with a Bleak Walker Paladin though, as it does seem like it would drastically change my approach to quests.Kanfy posted:Still feels like yesterday when I backed this game and watched that celebratory livestream and whatnot. Feels weird that it's going to be out in a week.
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Mar 18, 2015 12:56
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I like Spears. They have +5 natural accuracy, do pierce damage and are a 1H normal weapon. And yeah slash is balls, too weak against most armors. Only weapon that makes up for that is the Sabre, really.
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Mar 18, 2015 12:57
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Do people have any good suggestions for Barbarian or Monk builds? Priests that aren't of Magran? If I'm ever making/when I'll make a Barbarian it'll be a High Int/High Interrupt build I think. To compensate for the lack of Might I'll probably be getting some Graze-to-Hit/Hit-to-Crit talents or something along those lines. I'm picturing an annoying, crazy little fur-ball of pain Wild Orlan disrupting all the guys the Fighter is tanking, or, using Wild Run, go intercept some fucker who went behind my front lines.
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Sensuki posted:I like Spears. They have +5 natural accuracy, do pierce damage and are a 1H normal weapon. Oh, I didn't think of spears, good idea. I assume 1h normal weapons are somewhat better then fast weapons because they have less problems overcoming the damage threshold ? They are in the same talent group as a blunderbuss as well, if I have a spare talent for weapon focus. And I can make a custom Cladhalíath for this to ! Sounds good. I wonder if going how the math for going one handed instead of dual wield with this build looks.
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MonikaTSarn posted:Oh, I didn't think of spears, good idea. I assume 1h normal weapons are somewhat better then fast weapons because they have less problems overcoming the damage threshold ? They are in the same talent group as a blunderbuss as well, if I have a spare talent for weapon focus. Yeah I don't like light weapons at all at the moment. There's also Ritezzi's Thorn which you can buy from the blacksmith that is a good spear for the beta. And yeah those x on crit effects are going to be OP in the full game I think.
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Halfway through my playthrough of BG1, to be followed by BG2 before release. I think time might be an issue.
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Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:Probably getting ahead of myself, but I'm already planning my party composition to eventually try every class and companion in two playthroughs. Chanter and five companions first, then a Monk plus the leftover companions and custom Barbarian+Rogue. Really tempted to swap one of those main characters with a Bleak Walker Paladin though, as it does seem like it would drastically change my approach to quests. I kinda see the 8 adventurer companions as dry-runs for new main characters in second playthroughs, which is why, yeah, I want one of them to be a Bleak Walker. Going all aggressive all the time is like the exact opposite of my normal playstyle. MonikaTSarn posted:Oh, I didn't think of spears, good idea. I assume 1h normal weapons are somewhat better then fast weapons because they have less problems overcoming the damage threshold ? They are in the same talent group as a blunderbuss as well, if I have a spare talent for weapon focus. Remember that unless you're a priest with a religious weapon talent, or are building your character around the design mechanics of a specific weapon like the Blunderbuss, it's probably more useful to think in weapon sets rather than single weapons. I mean it depends on your talent selection but unless it's changed these are the groups you're looking at (again, DONT use the groups on the wiki, wiki is bad, wiki is outdated, that might need to go in the OP): Adventurer - Pollaxe, Estoc, Flail, Wand, War Bow. Knight - Battle Axe, Sword, Morning Star, Crossbow Noble - Dagger, Rapier, Mace, Sceptre, Rod Peasant - Hatchet, Spear, Quarterstaff, Hunting Bow, Unarmed Ruffian - Sabre, Stiletto, Club, Pistol, Blunderbuss Soldier - Great Sword, Pike, War Hammer, Arbalest, Arquebus Roughly speaking, and depending on build, that seems to mean your front ranks want Adventurer or maybe Knight or soldier, your middle ranks probably want soldier, your dual wielders and rogues probably want ruffian, and your wizards might want to go noble? For your build it sounds like Peasant weapon group might be what you want, or maybe Soldier. Both groups have an extended reach weapon and a good one-handed option too. Arquebus is one of the best ranged openers and hunting bow might even turn out to be a good ranged choice with the right setup (DR penetration and attack speed). For fast weapons I like stilettos for the -DR. I do think you probably want a weapon focus talent because +accuracy is almost always strictly better than +crit to hit or + graze to hit, since it effectively gives both of those as well as + miss to graze. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Strange that Weapon Focus (Knight) only has four weapons. Maybe they'll add in an extra one or something in the expansion. What renaissance weapons would be cool? Another polearm?
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Sensuki posted:Strange that Weapon Focus (Knight) only has four weapons. Well, I copy/pasted that from the forum, maybe it's missing one. And yeah the game needs a third "reach" weapon. I'm plugging for guisarme-voulge or Bec de Corbin. Maybe Glaive. Or Glaive-Guisarme! Glaive-guisarme-voulge! Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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On the subject of companions, I really wanted a druid along, but would rather play a cipher personally. So I hope that Hiravias is less of a dickhead than he appeared in that pax presentation.
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Mar 18, 2015 13:28
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Well, I copy/pasted that from the forum, maybe it's missing one. And yeah the game needs a third "reach" weapon. I'm plugging for guisarme-voulge or Bec de Corbin. Maybe Glaive. Or Glaive-Guisarme! Glaive-guisarme-voulge! Chu Ko Nu :P Although that probably doesn't fit the setting.
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Tarezax posted:I am going to make every playable character from Ar Tonelico 2 because I am a giant dork. Also I should re-read that series. It was a lot of fun. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Apparently we each get to make 8 mercenary adventurers to hang out at our keep or take along on quests.
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X_Toad posted:Someone mentioned making Fell's Five as a party in the previous thread. To that person, I'm asking : what is the best race and class combination for the Warlock Tiefling, the other four being rather obvious. Nope. 8 scripted companions and 8 you can make at the Adventurer's Hall.
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Kurtofan posted:How many companions can you have in a single party? Six total party members, or five + you. X_Toad posted:Someone mentioned making Fell's Five as a party in the previous thread. To that person, I'm asking : what is the best race and class combination for the Warlock Tiefling, the other four being rather obvious. Haven't read the series but the Tiefling equivalent in Pillars are Godlikes. Maybe a Fire Godlike and then wizard or cipher depending?
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One question - are there liches?
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CobiWann posted:One question - are there liches? I suspect there will be some sort of lich alike but we've not seen anything that is called or equivalent to a Lich so far. We do have spider mind flayers though.
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Only the very best in video games have Mindflayers, like BG2 and Dominions 3. A good sign. How is exp handles in the game? Is it split amongst the party? Can you reach maximum level by the end of the game with a full party?
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Baller Time posted:Only the very best in video games have Mindflayers, like BG2 and Dominions 3. A good sign. It's split among the party, max level is reportedly 12th, apparently if you do ALL the sidequests yes, but reports are most people will probably end up around 8-10th level by the time they complete the game. Main thing to be aware of is that there's relatively little XP from killing monsters directly, it's just for accomplishing quest goals. Grinding won't work.
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Which class would be best for a pure archer? I, sadly, just love pumping out arrows in rpgs. E: Cause, ya know, I need to start thinking about my char only to scrap every single plan and make something random when I actually start the game. Seriously can't wait. ChiTownEddie fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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ChiTownEddie posted:Which class would be best for a pure archer? I, sadly, just love pumping out arrows in rpgs. As of the last beta build everyone has been whining that bows are underpowered relative to guns, but probably either a ranger (if you want a pet and special arrow powers) or a rogue built for range (if you don't want a pet). The system's very flexible though so you could make a ranged build work with many classes. edit: there's also an interesting build I saw someone post that involved a hunting bow, high Dex, and the Chanter song that allows you to fire ranged weapons faster. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Mar 18, 2015 14:31
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Will it be possible to do a solo character run?
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Will it be possible to do a solo character run? There's an achievement for it! Possible but not balanced for solo play so likely to be very very difficult.
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Yeah, though the game isn't really designed around it and you'll probably have to metagame/exploit the game's ruleset quirks a fair bit.
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Hey, the title changed. I approve wholeheartedly.
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PoE specifically wasn't gently caress You, Suck My Dick: Josh Sawyer's Personal Dream RPG, get your poo poo together titlemaker. 
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