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FRINGE posted:It was a successful genre, and sadly accurate. Its also not dead: Oh yeah I know it's not completely utterly dead but it's still a lot less common than, say, WWII games.
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cheesetriangles posted:Can I be a paladin with a gun and full plate and going around murdering people for god? Paladins mostly aren't about gods. I mean, they can still believe in them but they aren't holy orders. You could do it as a priest.
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VDay posted:Yeah I'm the kind of player that started over a dozen times in Skyrim, Divinity:OS, and most recently DA:I because I just keep thinking "I bet this other class/party/whatever will be more fun". Having all these options in a game-type that I'm not super familiar with (player NWN, BG2 and Planescape: Torment but only years and years ago) is just pushing that into overdrive. It's not even an optimal/min-max thing, I'm just genuinely not sure which playstyle I'd enjoy more. I can't even start playing D&D-type games sometimes, I'm overwhelmed by the character creation process despite having done it a thousand times before. NWN2 is especially bad like this, spend hours mapping out your character before you even load up the game... after all if I were to start with 18 CH instead of 17 by accident then I would waste my level 8 attribute point which would lead to an appreciable end-game difference! Not to mention all the dual-classing, etc etc. It's even worse when you don't start at level 1 - leveling up a whole bunch at the start is so intimidating to me I can't even face up to it. Couldn't really get into the PoE beta because that part is just so overwhelming to me I end up just quitting halfway through the process, sure that I was doing a terrible job.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:27
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UrbicaMortis posted:Paladins mostly aren't about gods. I mean, they can still believe in them but they aren't holy orders. You could do it as a priest.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:28
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My paladin is gonna kill in the name of god anyway. No one will stop him.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:33
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VDay posted:Yeah I'm the kind of player that started over a dozen times in Skyrim, Divinity:OS, and most recently DA:I because I just keep thinking "I bet this other class/party/whatever will be more fun". Having all these options in a game-type that I'm not super familiar with (player NWN, BG2 and Planescape: Torment but only years and years ago) is just pushing that into overdrive. It's not even an optimal/min-max thing, I'm just genuinely not sure which playstyle I'd enjoy more. I have similar problems and this is my solution for PoE: I'm just going to play Ironman mode immediately. I won't have to worry about starting over since the game will do it for me when I die 2 hours in.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:34
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cheesetriangles posted:Can I be a paladin with a gun and full plate and going around murdering people for god? You can be a Goldpact Paladin and go around murdering people for Galt instead.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:50
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These paladins sound even better than the ones from 13th Age
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Mar 19, 2015 21:52
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rope kid posted:A Shieldbearer of St. Elcga could fit. What do you mean? The description doesn't mention a god. steel Garrote(Woedica) and the Fellows of St. Waidwen Martyr(Eothas) are both paladin orders that are associated with a god, but they are both not playable in the game.
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Scorchy posted:I have similar problems and this is my solution for PoE: I'm just going to play Ironman mode immediately. I won't have to worry about starting over since the game will do it for me when I die 2 hours in. I would do this if I thought I had a better handle on all the mechanics and stuff. But I haven't played a real DnD RPG in a while so I think this would just lead to me dying to some dumb encounter that I engaged like an idiot.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:56
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I normally play a Wizard in these type of games, but i also have a soft spot for the Monk who just kicks rear end with fists and kicks. So since there is a Wizard companion i will be playing a Monk. Though most of the classes sound really fun. How is the party AI? The only real worry i have is that all the classes have so many cool abilities, that i hope i don't have to babysit my companions all the time.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:02
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If you build your characters toward being more passive and use the companions with more passive abilities (e.g. Kana), it should be easier to manage.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:09
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Oasx posted:How is the party AI? The only real worry i have is that all the classes have so many cool abilities, that i hope i don't have to babysit my companions all the time. They don't use spells and such, and sometimes don't even auto attack so you will have to babysit a little bit. Definitively play on Normal or Easy if you don't want to micromanage because Hard really is hard.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:11
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Oasx posted:I normally play a Wizard in these type of games, but i also have a soft spot for the Monk who just kicks rear end with fists and kicks. So since there is a Wizard companion i will be playing a Monk. Though most of the classes sound really fun. Pillars of Eternity 2 is gonna have hybrid classes like Druid/Monk. 
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Mar 19, 2015 22:11
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:I never actually beat baldur's gate one or two. I haven't even played them, although I think I read an LP of BG1 once.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:13
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Papercut posted:I haven't even played them, although I think I read an LP of BG1 once. Beat them both and almost all the expansions (never beat Sword Coast entirely). They're plenty fun though they have massively annoying portions tacked on here and there.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:20
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prometheus12345 posted:I thought spiritshift forms were pretty powerful. They have 8 dr without any speed reduction(breastplate with the same reduction give you a -40 % penalty). The damage is higher as two handed weapons and they use the two weapon style with unarmed weapons. One problem I could see if the armor/weapons doesn't level up that, they are only viable at low level. There is also one talent that add elemental damage to your spiritshift attack(+ 30 % damage, ropekid updated this after beta release) and a second that increases the elemental damage(+ 15 %). You sound like you've played Druid a fair bit. Any commentary or advice on the different varieties of Spiritshift? Did you find one more useful than the other? As someone who hasn't played the backer beta, the descriptions I'm finding on the wikis are fairly bare bones. That and Baldur's Gate 2 has taught me to mistrust theory over practice.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:24
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I just made a chanter for the first time in the beta, and INT doesn't affect the duration or linger of the chants it seems? Thought having a 20 int chanter would let me have multiple effects going on at once but it doesn't seem so...
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Mar 19, 2015 22:32
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Riven posted:I just made a chanter for the first time in the beta, and INT doesn't affect the duration or linger of the chants it seems? Thought having a 20 int chanter would let me have multiple effects going on at once but it doesn't seem so...
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Mar 19, 2015 22:37
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rope kid posted:It should affect Linger. Is linger part of the bars when you're constructing a chant? I guess I'm just confused because most abilities have a number of seconds that it lasts for you and then in parentheses the base number. For the chants it just says the duration and linger with no modifiers.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:56
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zedprime posted:What time period would gently caress You, Suck My Dick take place in if it was made? People would have to know about Lionheart to make jokes about it.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:12
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evilmiera posted:Beat them both and almost all the expansions (never beat Sword Coast entirely). They're plenty fun though they have massively annoying portions tacked on here and there. (played entirety of NWN1, but got tired of NWN2 before finishing act one)
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Mar 20, 2015 00:15
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Riven posted:Is linger part of the bars when you're constructing a chant? I guess I'm just confused because most abilities have a number of seconds that it lasts for you and then in parentheses the base number. For the chants it just says the duration and linger with no modifiers.  The lighter section of the bar is the Linger. The phrase technically stops when the next icon is reached, but the effects continue through the light portion.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:Pillars of Eternity 2 is gonna have hybrid classes like Druid/Monk. I have made PoE-compatible portraits for this. Preview:   Download: https://mega.co.nz/#!DVRggbga!kUaJl1oOes0pQPKCcVZXyjKejOLWJ6AvbaEEREi6eBg
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Mar 20, 2015 00:19
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Please rename thread to Chant for Idiot Babies
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derra posted:Please rename forum to Chant for Idiot Babies
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I'm wondering what the Dyrford equivalent of places like the Firewine Ruin be like. I can't wait to get lost in a maze and get my arse shot full of burning arrows by not-Kobolds.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:33
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rope kid posted:
Yes, but his point was there is no indication that the linger duration is being modified by intelligence.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I'm wondering what the Dyrford equivalent of places like the Firewine Ruin be like. I can't wait to get lost in a maze and get my arse shot full of burning arrows by not-Kobolds. It's the Drow tombs and if we had just backed a bit more we would've gotten that kickstarter goal! 
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:It's the Drow tombs and if we had just backed a bit more we would've gotten that kickstarter goal! What did the 4 million dollar Kickstarter-goal mean anyway, Enhanced Game?
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I can't wait to wreck everything peasant style, all hatchet murders from top to bottom. Battle axes are for people with no self-confidence.
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rope kid posted:
I'm sure this will be clearer if played from the beginning, but is the icon part of the time it's in effect? For all the chants I put together the light bar ended at the right side of the next icon, so it appeared that with 20 Intelligence nothing was overlapping. Basically everything I put together looked like "Hell yeah bro!" With no overlaps like in "Chant for Idiot Babies."
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Traxis posted:Yes, but his point was there is no indication that the linger duration is being modified by intelligence.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:45
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What did the 4 million dollar Kickstarter-goal mean anyway, Enhanced Game? Basically they didnt have any more stretch goals in mind so rather than keep promising stuff they couldn't keep (or would make the game suffer from feature bloat) they promised that everything past 4 mill would goto improving what had already been promised.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:45
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rope kid posted:That should be in the description. It isnt, though
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Soapy_Bumslap posted:I can't wait to wreck everything peasant style, all hatchet murders from top to bottom. Battle axes are for people with no self-confidence. So Juggalo tactics then?
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RagnarokAngel posted:Basically they didnt have any more stretch goals in mind so rather than keep promising stuff they couldn't keep (or would make the game suffer from feature bloat) they promised that everything past 4 mill would goto improving what had already been promised. If Pillars of Eternity got funding as much as Star Citizen, and was headed by less discerning Project Leads, I wouldn't be able to guess the final product, but the accompanying documentary would be somewhere between Hearts of Darkness and Dean Pelton's Greendale commercial.
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Traxis posted:It isnt, though
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Hey, so I am a big dumb babby who has never played an Infinity Engine game before beyond getting frustrated with the UI in the first dungeon of BG2 and quitting.  I've played lots of RPGs, including CRPGs in this style like Divinity: Original Sin and the new Shadowrun games, but I still worry I'll go into this not knowing lots of things people are taking for given. What should I know? (I have played lots of DnD but this isn't in DnD anymore so I can't lean on that crutch!)
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Inspector Gesicht posted:If Pillars of Eternity got funding as much as Star Citizen, and was headed by less discerning Project Leads, I wouldn't be able to guess the final product, but the accompanying documentary would be somewhere between Hearts of Darkness and Dean Pelton's Greendale commercial. Star Citizen got 40 mil ? With that budget they could probably do a fully voiced and 3D game like Witcher 2/3 or Mass Effect. (I think Witcher 2 was about 11 mil, but since Obsidian is in America it would probably cost more, not 4x more, but at least a few millions more)
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