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Is having a sheet of water pouring off your roof really so horrible that it necessitates an entire preventive apparatus and all the associated cleaning and maintenance that comes with it? Fact: Approx. 50,000 people are hospitalized for ladder-related injuries each year while cleaning out rain gutters. Fact: 0 people are hospitalized each year for injuries related to walking through a curtain of water that is slightly thicker than the rain through which they were already walking. Bottom line: my wife wants me to clean out the gutters and I'm debating whether to just remove our gutters altogether to eliminate the hassle.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:09 |
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 04:03 |
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break a neck, rear end in a top hat!
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:13 |
poo poo I think you might be right. future internet archeologists will probably point to this post as the turning point in this whole gutter situation.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:14 |
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It helps keep the soil immediately surrounding your house from becoming a swampy mess or do you live in one of those cities in the desert that shouldn't exist but does because Americans are retarded.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:18 |
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AHaha you have a house with a roof and a mortgage and you are married lol
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:19 |
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some people collect rainwater
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:20 |
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The point is they're full of blood and when the drains finally scab over all the vermin will drown.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:20 |
unassertive boy 99 posted:AHaha you have a house with a roof and a mortgage and you are married lol they are my parents gutters actually
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:20 |
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Applewhite posted:Is having a sheet of water pouring off your roof really so horrible that it necessitates an entire preventive apparatus and all the associated cleaning and maintenance that comes with it? Ladders are perfectly safe as long as you're not a retard
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:21 |
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Hello I am OP and I don't know anything about basic residential construction principles or soil qualities, I'm not going to even start on my big gay opinions about why soak wells and drains are unnecessary, however I
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:21 |
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EvilJoven posted:It helps keep the soil immediately surrounding your house from becoming a swampy mess or do you live in one of those cities in the desert that shouldn't exist but does because Americans are retarded. if god didn't want us to build there, he wouldn't have made the natives susceptible to european diseases.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:22 |
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retard doesn't understand how things work. instead of using the Internet to maybe find out how things work, instead uses it to announce his retardation to the world.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:25 |
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get your mind out of the gutter, op
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:29 |
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Depending on the conditions of your house's exterior, foundation, roof lines, soil, and local climate, yes gutters have a point. For example, brick absorbs water so having rain sheet down off the roof and onto the exterior walls is bad. About 5 years ago I removed the gutters from my mom's garage because they kept getting hosed up by snow avalanches sliding off the main house roof. Now it's having some rot problems on the sill plates in some areas which I need to fix. Removing the entire gutter was a mistake.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:30 |
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the gutters collect a majority of the water that falls on your home's roof then it navigates to a longer gutter that runs down the side/front of your home; the point being that it pushes water far away from your house so it does not soak up. If it soaks up and you have a basement it can cause it to flood by coming in through your basement windows or even through porous foundation
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:32 |
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Klyith posted:Depending on the conditions of your house's exterior, foundation, roof lines, soil, and local climate, yes gutters have a point. For example, brick absorbs water so having rain sheet down off the roof and onto the exterior walls is bad. counterpoint: my house growing up never had gutters and the only problem we ever had was a line of dead grass where the rain would fall from the roof
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:33 |
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also our basement was constantly flooding
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:34 |
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redirects water to an area where it can be drained in a sustained and controlled fashion. close thread.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:35 |
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fyodor posted:redirects water to an area where it can be drained in a sustained and controlled fashion. close thread. Oh like having it all collect at once corner of the house is soooo much better than having it dispersed evenly across the whole front.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:37 |
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how is breaking your neck removing the gutter better than breaking your neck cleaning it. either way, die.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:38 |
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Look at this loving idiot bitch OP.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:38 |
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lots of strong opinions about rain gutters ITT
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:39 |
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Mr. Pumroy posted:how is breaking your neck removing the gutter better than breaking your neck cleaning it. either way, die.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:39 |
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ask yourself WWGD? (what would Grover do?)
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:41 |
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My gutter system drains into a pipe that is tied directly into the sewer. Ground isn't exactly flat everywhere, and if you don't have a good gutter system the water will pool into the lowest spot, potentially flooding your basement. There you go OP this is why we have gutters. Hope it helps!!!
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:45 |
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To collect tennis balls and dead raccoons.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:46 |
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Trast posted:To collect tennis balls and dead raccoons. best answer. This guy gets it.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:48 |
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it's something about erosion. My house didn't have gutters for a while and now we have random holes in the ground where the water would concentrate as a waterfall thing. But honestly it's Trast posted:To collect tennis balls and dead raccoons.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:02 |
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Gutter s are a great place for dumb birds to drown their retard offspring.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:05 |
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OP, don't listen to anyone here, gutters are useless. I'll explain. Many people believe that houses require foundations, but this is actually nonsense. Most homes are built with frames sufficiently strong to support the weight of the house, and therefore a solid concrete or block foundation is unnecessary. Furthermore, due to the materials and methods of construction, foundations are completely inflexible, and when the ground shifts due to natural settling or freezing and thawing, the blocks and concrete tend to crack and break. This eventually will lead to the collapse of the entire structure because the entire house is resting on the foundation. What most people don't know is that the foundation is the single most expensive structure in a home, and construction companies earn a whole lot of money by building them. So as you might guess, they have no desire to ditch the foundation paradigm. Old houses collapse, the companies get to sell you a new 20K+ foundation, the cycle continues. Gutters are ostensibly designed to protect the foundation from the damaging effects of moisture. Because most roofs only overhang about 1.5 feet over the walls of the house, rainwater will tend to pool around the foundation, which will lead to the concrete taking in moisture and disintegrating. The gutter system is used because it really doesn't work well. Gutter seams almost always fail, and water will pool anyway. Leaves tend collect in the gutter, and this leads to pooling at the roof, which will destroy the roof of your home. Again, construction companies make a lot of money installing these pieces of crap, and when they destroy your house the construction company gets to sell you another one, with the knowledge that it will fail again in the future. There is no money in building lasting structures. A well built house has the following features: 1. No foundation. The ground should be leveled and bushes planted around the perimeter of the building. The bushes will ensure that water doesn't get under the house and cause rotting. 2. Joists built with pressure treated lumber. Pressure treated lumber will not rot, and is flexible enough to accommodate changes shifts in the ground underneath. 3. Build taller, not wider. Since the ground is prone to shifting, the smaller the footprint, the better the structure. A smaller footprint will be less likely to warp, and the best way to make up the square footage is obviously to build higher. 4. Fewer windows. UV light is damaging and windows leak significant amounts of heat. No windows is obviously optimal, I have none in my house. 5. The optimal roof shape looks like a mushroom cap. This shape of roof will divert rain away from the base of the house much better than a typical roof, and because it has a much lower drag coefficient than a typical A-Frame, it will be much more stable in the event of high winds. 6. The furnaces should be in the center of the home to keep the heat centralized. The chimney should be central, and should not extend out from the roof but rather should be inset to further lower the drag coefficient of the roof. Any rain that falls near the chimney will be blown out by the exhaust from the furnace. 7. No gutters. Gutters fail, and damage the structure. They're also ugly. My company has been building houses like this for years, and I've never had a complaint. I like to make the exterior beige stucco, and I prefer red shingles for the roof, but those colors are obviously dependent on preference. This is an image of my house, pardon the bushes being brown, it's winter and they haven't grown their leaves back yet. I think you will agree, this is the best house.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:10 |
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Dolphin posted:OP, don't listen to anyone here, gutters are useless. I'll explain. pretty good house
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:38 |
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Dolphin posted:OP, don't listen to anyone here, gutters are useless. I'll explain.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:43 |
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spend an afternoon putting covers on your gutters and drinking beer on the roof, then never worry about it again or dont live under trees i guess, either way you never have to clean a gutter again
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:57 |
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Dolphin posted:OP, don't listen to anyone here, gutters are useless. I'll explain. This house has no balls.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:58 |
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Applewhite posted:Bottom line: my wife wants me to clean out the gutters and I'm debating whether to just remove our gutters altogether to eliminate the hassle. Make her do it, it's 2015.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:59 |
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Applewhite posted:Oh like having it all collect at once corner of the house is soooo much better than having it dispersed evenly across the whole front. yes usually it redirects into a drain pipe
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 16:00 |
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you're an idiot and don't understand basic things
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 16:11 |
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fyodor posted:yes usually it redirects into a drain pipe Mine empty out onto little concrete troughs before ultimately draining directly onto the lawn.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 16:14 |
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Roy posted:Make her do it, it's 2015. This is a good idea. Equality is cool and good. Also don't remove your gutters unless you don't own the home, in which case, who cares.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 16:17 |
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ANAmal.net posted:spend an afternoon putting covers on your gutters and drinking beer on the roof, then never worry about it again Gutter covers are the right answer. When I was a kid I had to clean gutters too, but eventually my parents got that Gutter Helmet or whatever and never had to clean again.
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