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Dejan Bimble posted:Thanks for the writeup, MV. Who do you think will be the best of the crowd of sg/sfs in the lottery, not counting D'angelo Russel? I like Johnson the best, but he hasn't looked great lately. He carried the biggest offensive load and was generally pretty efficient, and he plays very good D. Oubre has the highest ceiling but he's so up and down. I don't trust Winslow's shooting at all, but he'll test the best and has had some good tournament games so I could see him being the first of them off the board. I know nothing of the Euro dude. Hand Row posted:I think Bronson Koenig could end up being the best NBA player out of the WI guys. Not that is saying much as I think the rest are bench guys. Yeah he's good but I think he's coming back. MourningView fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Out of the ten thousand NBA players on Kentucky's team, I only think Towns and Cauley-Stein will have NBA success. Towns will be fine as a stretch 4 and WCS' ceiling will probably be what Birdman Anderson evolved into, but I don't see the rest having any real careers. Ulis is too small, the shine has worn off on the Harrisons, Dakari Johnson is too slow, and I'm not sold on Booker's shooting. I haven't seen enough of Lyles or anyone else to really say anything, for better or worse. I don't think Kentucky is a great team, but just a team that managed to stockpile depth in an era where anyone who stays for more than a fortnight has no real pro potential. Cal should win Coach of the Year just for convincing no one from the past two classes to transfer out for real playing time.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:21
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I know they're not in the tournament any longer, but I've been wondering: does Michael Qualls have any sort of spot in the NBA? Is he destined to play overseas? I'm biased, but he's always been entertaining to watch, and I feel like at least some of his game has improved, especially the last two years.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:57
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FakePoet posted:I know they're not in the tournament any longer, but I've been wondering: does Michael Qualls have any sort of spot in the NBA? Is he destined to play overseas? He's probably better off waiting another year so he can be The Guy without Portis, but he'd get drafted. He needs to get more consistent with his shot to really climb though.
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Oo thank you for the writeup. know I seen Buddy "Buddy Love" Hield play some D after losing it on this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBiksdUSOuk He's got a good attitude and I like him.
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Can we just pencil in undersized power forward who looks like a tweener under Michigan State every year?
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I feel like part of the reason that Stanley Johnson's numbers have fallen is that Brandon Ashley has re-emerged and Arizona has had to rely less on Johnson breaking down the dribble to score and can instead go to Ashley in screen/roll or even the post. And then in the most recent game where Ashley couldn't stay on the floor, Arizona went nuts from three so ended up also not needing Johnson. I'm glad to hear that someone is projecting McConnell getting drafted just because I loving love his game. I really do think Tarzcewski has the best chance of actually sticking in the NBA of Arizona's players this year, but I guess you don't draft a player with offensive skills that limited very high in 2015.
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MourningView posted:West Virginia: You're joking, right? Juwan Staten's been one of the top three best players in the Big 12 the past couple years, and he's pretty speedy and can get to the rim pretty well.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Can we just pencil in undersized power forward who looks like a tweener under Michigan State every year? Adreian Payne was a legitimate big. We're also big on speedy point guards who suck at shooting. Lourawls Nairn is the newest model.
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Probably Magic posted:You're joking, right? Juwan Staten's been one of the top three best players in the Big 12 the past couple years, and he's pretty speedy and can get to the rim pretty well. He's tiny, older, and can't shoot at all. I don't think he's much of a prospect. Lots of good college players don't get drafted. Ford doesn't have him in his Top 100 and DX just barely does so I'm not exactly out on a limb here. Definitely not enough of a prospect to warrant shock at not being included. MourningView fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 16:16
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Am I wrong for thinking Kris Dunn and Delon Wright are going to be really good? I feel like Wright will be the late first that has a really good career.
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What're Joe Young's NBA chances?
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MV clearly forgot the West Virginia dude who already has NBA-caliber rec specs.
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R.D. Mangles posted:MV clearly forgot the West Virginia dude who already has NBA-caliber rec specs. That guy doesn't meet age requirements for the draft (too old to enter).
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Rick posted:That guy doesn't meet age requirements for the draft (too old to enter). You're thinking of Perry Ellis, who returned to college after playing Federal League baseball.
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Archeologists discover previously unknown Perry Ellis high school scouting mixtapes, there are many mysterious deaths on the boat transporting the film back to the mainland
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R.D. Mangles posted:You're thinking of Perry Ellis, who returned to college after playing Federal League baseball. Man, how he is only a junior. It seems like he has been at Kansas for approximately 15 years.
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Regnevelc posted:Man, how he is only a junior. It seems like he has been at Kansas for approximately 15 years. Sometimes I check the UF depth chart just to make sure Patric Young really left
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jimcunningham posted:Am I wrong for thinking Kris Dunn and Delon Wright are going to be really good? I feel like Wright will be the late first that has a really good career. Dunn has a chance to be a late lottery pick. He's really good if he can get himself under control and work on his decision making. He takes dumb shots and turns the ball over a lot from being out of control, but otherwise there's no much else you could want in a PG prospect. There's a ton of stuff to like about Wright, but the recent track record for prospects who are that old is pretty ugly and I'm a little skeptical of his jumper. I'm not as high on him as some, but I don't think you're crazy for liking him a lot. Declan MacManus posted:Sometimes I check the UF depth chart just to make sure Patric Young really left Chris Walker is gonna be the new version of that. Rick posted:What're Joe Young's NBA chances? I like him, but he's also older, doesn't do much other than score, and has horrible height/length for a SG. I think there might be some character stuff there I'm forgetting too. He'll get a look but probably not until the 2nd round.
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MourningView posted:Chris Walker is gonna be the new version of that. quote:The first thing you notice about Florida’s Chris Walker is the body, a chiseled, 6' 10", 220-pound frame that NBA executives drool over. A year in the Gators’ weight room packed 17½ pounds of muscle on the sophomore forward and cut his body fat by 2.2%. “If teams drafted on body types,” says ESPN draft analyst Fran Fraschilla, “Chris Walker would be a high lottery pick.” are we sure that chris walker isn't actually just patric young in makeup
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Oubre will look a lot better driving to the lane when there's a legit post presence to pass to instead of just having the defense collapse against him. But his shot still needs some work. Ellis, uh... uh... uhhhh... he has worked on his perimeter shooting, which is the only way I could see him doing that physically well in the league. Otherwise he's going to get his poo poo blocked twenty times a day.
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Declan MacManus posted:Sometimes I check the UF depth chart just to make sure Patric Young really left I'm wondering how Louisville's gonna handle Julius Hodge this weekend.
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I written off Dekker long ago like most but holy poo poo. It was nice to finally see him tear up elite competition and also display range from the 3.
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Hand Row posted:I written off Dekker long ago like most but holy poo poo. It was nice to finally see him tear up elite competition and also display range from the 3. It'll probably get him drafted a little higher than he should but unless he goes on a tear against Kentucky he's probably outside the lotto looking in (until they do athletic testing and everyone is like omg)
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I think he'll go lottery now, but his shooting is going to be way overrated (it always has been because he's white and people assume any white guy can shoot, but now the image people have of him is going to be knocking down jumpers in the tournament). He's been a below average outside shooter for 3 years, that didn't suddenly change because he happened to get hot at a good time. In other news I've come around and I'm pretty sure I'd take Towns first now. Some of it's the tournmanet, but he's been way better on offense the last couple months as they've give him the ball more (his post game actually looks pretty fluid now, and he has a nice little jump hook). He's always been a way better rebounder/defender, so if he can play well on offense seems like kind of a no-brainer, even though I still really like Okafor. His ceiling is just way higher. It's possible he's better on offese than he's showing even now too, because his high school rep was as a guy with a good face up game and some range, and he doesn't do much other than post up right now. Cal has a tendency to do that with his big guys (which is probably smart at the college level since they have such a dramatic size/strength/athleticism advantage). Davis didn't do much other than catch lobs or get putbacks in his college season. MourningView fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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I like Towns a lot (see thread title) but Okafor is Okafor. I feel like his floor is just that much higher that you can't really take that gamble. Then again this might be another Emeka vs. Dwight situation
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I don't think it's THAT big a gamble, since like the absolute worst case for Towns seems like a guy who is an excellent defensive big who can finish on pick and rolls, which is pretty good and all most teams are looking for from the center anyway. Okafor could easily wind up being like Enes Kanter or something, although I think he'll be better than that.
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Spacebump posted:Which sites have the best mock drafts? I want to briefly get excited about the Mavs getting a young player then realize even if they keep the pick from the Rondo trade it'll probably be traded to someone else. This guy has been relatively accurate these last few 4-5 years. He hasn't posted a mock draft in a while though, he'll probably be more active after the playoffs.
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Spacebump posted:Which sites have the best mock drafts? I want to briefly get excited about the Mavs getting a young player then realize even if they keep the pick from the Rondo trade it'll probably be traded to someone else. DX pretty consistently has the best one, but they haven't started considering team needs and stuff like that yet so I don't know how much good it'll do you for this purpose right now aside from giving you a feel for who will be available around when they pick. Once it gets closer to the draft that's the best one though. He's especially plugged in with the international guys.
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Okafor and Towns have both been amazing but to me the tournament revelation has been Justise Winslow. He has had stretches of phenomenal basketball. The problem is, I'm not sure that he's a "franchise small forward" like most people would be looking for in the top 5.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Okafor and Towns have both been amazing but to me the tournament revelation has been Justise Winslow. He has had stretches of phenomenal basketball. The problem is, I'm not sure that he's a "franchise small forward" like most people would be looking for in the top 5. He'll be an all-NBA dick puncher though.
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Henchman of Santa posted:He'll be an all-NBA dick puncher though. Chris Paul is doing well in the NBA, so it translates.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Okafor and Towns have both been amazing but to me the tournament revelation has been Justise Winslow. He has had stretches of phenomenal basketball. The problem is, I'm not sure that he's a "franchise small forward" like most people would be looking for in the top 5. Ah yes, like those franchise small forwards Otto Porter and Michael Kidd Gilcreist.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Ah yes, like those franchise small forwards Otto Porter and Michael Kidd Gilcreist. I don't think that is what most teams hope to draft in the Top 5 either!
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Towns/Okafor feels a lot like Wiggins/Parker redux to me, though I think the gap is closer because Okafor is just so incredibly skilled offensively. But I think if I was picking first overall I would take Towns because of the defensive potential.
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MourningView posted:In other news I've come around and I'm pretty sure I'd take Towns first now. Some of it's the tournmanet, but he's been way better on offense the last couple months as they've give him the ball more (his post game actually looks pretty fluid now, and he has a nice little jump hook). He's always been a way better rebounder/defender, so if he can play well on offense seems like kind of a no-brainer, even though I still really like Okafor. His ceiling is just way higher. It's possible he's better on offese than he's showing even now too, because his high school rep was as a guy with a good face up game and some range, and he doesn't do much other than post up right now. Cal has a tendency to do that with his big guys (which is probably smart at the college level since they have such a dramatic size/strength/athleticism advantage). Davis didn't do much other than catch lobs or get putbacks in his college season. Davis didn't have much of an offensive game early on. It was hilarious watching him during the Olympics; when he checked in everyone started feeding him lobs like they were playing Go Get It with their little brother. But his game hadn't caught up to his frame at Kentucky and didn't until he got into the pros. I'm wondering what the Sixers would do if they got the 1st. Do they sell Noel for cents on the dollars or hope the promise of Embiid gives them a better return and take Okafor/Towns, or keep who they have and take Russell? I know nothing on Muiday so I can't say if he would be in this situation.
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