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Your scum buddy is not your friend, also a scum claim on day one would be hilarious!
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Did you make a decision, HiipFire?
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Mar 25, 2015 17:21
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Look I can't reveal specifics because well that puts me at too much of a risk, but I know my color and I can work out the rest from there. All we need is a scum claim.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:32
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I don't trust this keane, but it WOULD be kind of cool if scum just claimed in the thread, it would make things a lot easier, so yes, go ahead scum please claim.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:39
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Anyways, doesn't this only work out if everyone in town claims their color, too?
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Mar 25, 2015 17:45
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Poison Mushroom posted:Anyways, doesn't this only work out if everyone in town claims their color, too? Yeah, that would be a needed step, but once we have the scum out there, then we can move on to step two.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:47
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CCKeane posted:Yeah, that would be a needed step, but once we have the scum out there, then we can move on to step two.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:48
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Poison Mushroom posted:I don't know about you, but if a scum claims, I'm just going to go ahead and vote them. Good thing you need a majority, then. CPig is on board. If you are town I am offering a guaranteed victory, if you are scum and claim now you can also win. We just need to satisfy both conditions at once, it can be worked out mathematically with the tools at our disposal.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:52
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Poison Mushroom posted:I don't know about you, but if a scum claims, I'm just going to go ahead and vote them. This.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:52
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Kleedrac posted:This. Good thing 2 players still isn't a majority!
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Mar 25, 2015 17:58
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CCKeane posted:Good thing you need a majority, then. I never said this, I said only that it would be easier if scum claimed. If someone claimed scum I'd vote the poo poo out of them. Winning by colors is for hippies. I wanna kill the scum.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:58
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Three still isn't a majority!
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Mar 25, 2015 18:00
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CCKeane posted:Three still isn't a majority! 
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Mar 25, 2015 18:02
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Poison Mushroom posted:Neither is "CCKeane". By mass I am *eats entire pizza*
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Mar 25, 2015 18:03
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Anyway, since my spot got blown up, I'm not an oracle I was just trying to get scum to scum claim day one so we could ride that out. But hey everybody insisting that heyd just vote scum anyway is making posts that literally only help scum so let's look there for the scum! I would buy PM or Kleedrac being scum, weeeee
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Mar 25, 2015 18:08
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CCKeane posted:Anyway, since my spot got blown up, I'm not an oracle I was just trying to get scum to scum claim day one so we could ride that out. Wait, so you fakeclaim day 1 and try to set up one of the worst gambits ever?! gently caress you Keane ##Vote CCKeane
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Mar 25, 2015 18:10
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CCKeane posted:Anyway, since my spot got blown up, I'm not an oracle I was just trying to get scum to scum claim day one so we could ride that out.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:11
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Poison Mushroom posted:I just want to be clear here. You're saying that the people who wouldn't cooperate with scum instead of voting them are the suspicious ones? Yes.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:13
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Kleedrac posted:Wait, so you fakeclaim day 1 and try to set up one of the worst gambits ever?! gently caress you Keane Hey I though we weren't voting fast off the bat, what changed man. What changed.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:14
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Poison Mushroom posted:I just want to be clear here. You're saying that the people who wouldn't cooperate with scum instead of voting them are the suspicious ones? The people actively trying to prevent scum from claiming look scummy yes.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:14
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Kleedrac posted:All right let's get this party started. HiipFire do you have even a joking case against wall monitor or is it the usual day one shenanigans. I'm not voting even in jest as in a 7 player game I don't wanna taunt the hammer Kleedrac why are you taunting the hammer? What did the hammer ever do to you?!
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Mar 25, 2015 18:19
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CCKeane posted:Yes.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:21
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PM Kleedrac scum team, ship it.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:24
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Compare PM and Kleedrac's reaction to CPig's. CPig advocated for scum to claim and didn't blow the roll until later (which he blew for no reason). They're also both voting me now, Kleedrac vote being directly opposed to how he said his play would be before. I'm feeling town on CPig and Hiipfire, both seemed to have fairly town reactions to the whole thing.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:28
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CCKeane posted:Hey I though we weren't voting fast off the bat, what changed man. What changed was that you did something extremely scummy - I shall explain; There are 4 setups possible in this game, Configurations A and B involve a scumteam with the same color alignment and a lack of the Oracle. Configurations C and D have scum teams with opposing colors but the town gains an oracle. I stand by what I said earlier; Kleedrac posted:Normally I'd agree but he essentially role claimed in a power role light environment - what if there was an oracle counter claim? It seems pretty risky for day 1. The only way someone could claim this power role day 1 safely is if they know the role is theirs or not in the game. If you are scum - and you have discussed with your scummate your colors - and they matched; you would know for a fact there is no Oracle and it becomes a safe claim. I think you did know it was a safe claim and for the latter reason. You sir, are scum!
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Mar 25, 2015 18:41
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Kleedrac posted:What changed was that you did something extremely scummy - I shall explain; Haha nope you big silly.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:43
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CCKeane posted:Anyway, since my spot got blown up, I'm not an oracle I was just trying to get scum to scum claim day one so we could ride that out.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:44
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CCKeane posted:Haha nope you big silly. Care to elaborate or you're hoping that by saying I'm wrong you'll look less scummy?
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Mar 25, 2015 18:44
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CCKeane posted:PM Kleedrac scum team, ship it. I see what you were trying to do , but I also dont really think that anyone was trying to help the scum. I seriously doubt any scum was even considering your offer, because they'd be dumb to whether or not we said wed vote them. I fail to see how this makes anyone scum, even you because I can see you are coming from a place of purity and honesty.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:45
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Kleedrac posted:Care to elaborate or you're hoping that by saying I'm wrong you'll look less scummy? There probably is a town oracle abd they just kept quiet!
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Mar 25, 2015 18:47
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Kleedrac posted:What changed was that you did something extremely scummy - I shall explain; Hahaha, wow.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:01
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You guys are confirming that scum would be completely truthful to each other. Which, if I have an alternate win condition outside of being scum, I wouldn't be.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:04
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Kleedrac posted:What changed was that you did something extremely scummy - I shall explain; Actually this is a pretty solid point.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:04
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:You guys are confirming that scum would be completely truthful to each other. That's not a terrible point but I can't think of any other reason to claim one of a maximum of 2 power roles. It seems far far too risky for a random townie to attempt.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:06
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Lol
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Mar 25, 2015 19:21
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:You guys are confirming that scum would be completely truthful to each other. Im sure there are people who are just as likely to color claim to their scum partner to figure the setup out? If I was scum in this setup I'd color claim to my scum buds and do exactly what keane did.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:27
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CapitalistPig posted:Im sure there are people who are just as likely to color claim to their scum partner to figure the setup out? You're trusting scum with an alternate victory condition to be truthful. I wouldn't. Scum don't even get an advantage in figuring the setup out, after all. The game is solvable for each individual after two deaths, and the entire game after three.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:54
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:You're trusting scum with an alternate victory condition to be truthful. I wouldn't. True but its all speculation and isnt that helpful , that was my point.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:55
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CapitalistPig posted:True but its all speculation and isnt that helpful , that was my point. The simplest way around it would be for everyone to post their 'solved' setup on Day 2.
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:The simplest way around it would be for everyone to post their 'solved' setup on Day 2. I can see that, based on flips and our own roles and colors we should probably have a pretty good guess as to what setup we are in tomorrow.
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