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thespaceinvader posted:Didn't that happen in one of the 40k campaigns as well? I seem to remember there being a giant eldar vs chaos thing that killed a special character, but mostly there being a massive waaagh that brutally trounced every other faction - and eventually GW decided that clearly the orks were on the side of chaos and gave it to chaos despite a lot of the fights being orks beating up chaos. The opposite, actually. GW wanted orks to be on the side of Chaos, and instead the ork players put together a very well-coordinated "No, gently caress you" campaign to go off and do their own thing. The Imperium/Chaos nonsense had more to do with a lot of confusion over how the conventional game and battlefleet gothic strategic systems worked.
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Cythereal posted:The opposite, actually. GW wanted orks to be on the side of Chaos, and instead the ork players put together a very well-coordinated "No, gently caress you" campaign to go off and do their own thing. The Imperium/Chaos nonsense had more to do with a lot of confusion over how the conventional game and battlefleet gothic strategic systems worked. Didn't that mess end in a Chaos-victory on the ground, while the Imperial Fleet blasted the Chaos-fleet away in space?
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I thought the Orks where designated as "neutral" and could decide who to give their victories to, and then in the end with Chaos beating Order the Orks swooped inn gave all their points to the Order side and changed the outcome.
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Orks are the kingmakers of WHFB and 40K. Whoever they decide to WAAAAAGH against is who will lose.
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Mar 28, 2015 14:05
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There's no way this is the end of warhammer fantasy, especially if they just announced a Left 4 Dead style skaven video game. It's called Vermintide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1rdqUZlx7s
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Libluini posted:Didn't that mess end in a Chaos-victory on the ground, while the Imperial Fleet blasted the Chaos-fleet away in space? Yeah, that was the end result of Black Crusade XIII. Compared to Storm of Chaos and the Medusa V campaigns (the last 40k one) BC 13 was a paragon of successful player-company cooperation and storytelling. E: Arcsquad12 posted:There's no way this is the end of warhammer fantasy, especially if they just announced a Left 4 Dead style skaven video game. It's called Vermintide. I've actually (probably foolishly) got real hopes for that game, funnily enough. So long as they put the time and effort in to make sure it's not a buggy mess (looking at you, RE:RC) it'll be at the very least a good laugh. Serpentis fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Mar 28, 2015 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:There's no way this is the end of warhammer fantasy, especially if they just announced a Left 4 Dead style skaven video game. It's called Vermintide. This looks awesome
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Sandweed posted:I thought the Orks where designated as "neutral" and could decide who to give their victories to, and then in the end with Chaos beating Order the Orks swooped inn gave all their points to the Order side and changed the outcome. No, the Orks were supposed to be allied with Chaos until Ork players organized Da Green Kroosade and beat the poo poo out of the Tau.
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Ibgot my hands on Eye of Terror which ima read as soon as I finish Hammers Slammers. What are some other good older ham books? Ive read Ian Watsons space marine and the original space wolf series. I also got Grunts which everyone in this thread should read, and bill the galactic hero im looking foward to
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They dont have to be good, I mean just fun Id take other general recs too
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Arcsquad12 posted:There's no way this is the end of warhammer fantasy, especially if they just announced a Left 4 Dead style skaven video game. It's called Vermintide. Yay weeping blades, Jazzails, ratling guns, Dwarf Gouger and the Fellblade. Oh, you fight the Skaven. Boring.
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Maybe it'll be like Left 4 Dead though. I mean it's not like the engine isn't there.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Yay weeping blades, Jazzails, ratling guns, Dwarf Gouger and the Fellblade. Well, that'll make the decision easy. Pass. Better luck next time, Lames Boreshop.
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Just finished "The first Heretic" I loved it. My favourite book so far. As an added bonus it was also the funniest book so far and a lot of the jokes really caught me off guard. Like the guard captains inner monologue in the queens chamber
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Is it common for BL stuff to say "download unavailable" after they take you money, with no mention of pre-orders or anything?
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Waroduce posted:Ibgot my hands on Eye of Terror which ima read as soon as I finish Hammers Slammers. What are some other good older ham books? Ive read Ian Watsons space marine and the original space wolf series. Do you like Fantasy? GW released some great Anthologies as far back as 1989. Wolf Riders, Red Thirst and Ignorant Armies. Very high average quality of story and include the first appearances of Gotrex and Felix. Many of the authors are already established guys writing under pseudonyms. Jack Yeovil for example is actually Kim Newman. Steve Baxter is now the prolific Stephen. The stories come with extremely 80's warhammer art B&W illustrations as well. Dead cheap, used on Amazon.
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:Is it common for BL stuff to say "download unavailable" after they take you money, with no mention of pre-orders or anything? Probably just a hiccup of some sort.
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What are some good series to get into Warhammer Fantasy with?
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EyeRChris posted:What are some good series to get into Warhammer Fantasy with? Comedy answer: Why bother? They blew it all up! Gotrek and Felix; The End Times series; Thanquol series; Witch Hunter series; Nagash series, Time of Legend series (concentrates on a particular individual per book); any of the short story collections. And if you can get your hands on them, the fluff books for the WFB End Times rulesets.
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I'm reading through the Space Marine omnibus and enjoying it for what it is - a lot of short stories filled with bolter porn. I was pleasantly surprised at the nod to Helbrecht from the Black Templars' story, having just finished up Helsreach a few weeks ago.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Yay weeping blades, Jazzails, ratling guns, Dwarf Gouger and the Fellblade. Left 4 Dead had a versus mode where you play the zombies
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Mange Mite posted:Left 4 Dead had a versus mode where you play the zombies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqPG4S80bo
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Libluini posted:Didn't that mess end in a Chaos-victory on the ground, while the Imperial Fleet blasted the Chaos-fleet away in space? Speaking as a former Imperial Admiral, yes, yes we did. WE did our jobs. All those fuckers dirtside screwed it up, but even though Chaos took Cadia, they're never getting OFF of it again!  What can I say, I loved Battlefleet Gothic, and I'm still pissed GW dumped the game and never even let Gordon Rennie write the third book of the trilogy!
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R there good bf Gothic books
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There's a BFG Vidya Gaem coming out that seems promising. It looks like Empire at War, except if you fail to protect a planet in time, the Inquisition just exterminatuses it.
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Waroduce posted:R there good bf Gothic books There are only two, Execution Hour and Shadow Point, both by Gordon Rennie. They cover the early part and middle of the Gothic War from the point of view of a cruiser captain. The third planned novel, Suicide Run was canceled by GW and never written, much less published, so go into it knowing that you'll never get a really satisfying conclusion to the story. That said, they're quite good. Maybe not Abnett at his best good, but certainly better than most 40k books.
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Arcsquad12 posted:There's a BFG Vidya Gaem coming out that seems promising. It looks like Empire at War, except if you fail to protect a planet in time, the Inquisition just exterminatuses it. eh, Rebellion was better. jng2058 posted:There are only two, Execution Hour and Shadow Point, both by Gordon Rennie. They cover the early part and middle of the Gothic War from the point of view of a cruiser captain. The third planned novel, Suicide Run was canceled by GW and never written, much less published, so go into it knowing that you'll never get a really satisfying conclusion to the story.
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Shadow Point was the first BL book I ever read. I got rid of most of my 40k books when I moved about five years ago, but I kept and treasured Shadow Point and Execution Hour and I'm really glad I did. Wish I still had Fire Warrior, Xenology, and my BFG game books. 
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Execution Hour was one of the first BL books I read and is one of my favourites, I spent about a month trying to track down the sequel but not much look. GW did however reissue both as a miniomnibus including a six page comic that was really just advertising for the book a while ago it was part of that special reissuing of fan favourites, but looking at the BL website I'm unable to find it so I guess they discontinued the range. Its a shame because both were really enjoyable and quite different to the typical Bolter/Lazrifle porn of the other books. Though Shadow Point ended on a very obvious to be continued point which was just left hanging. Games Workshop `We've been disappointing fans for over two decades` Edit: Actually I found the range again the Gothic War books are here for twenty quid its a bit pricey though strangely very reasonable compared to BL standard price ranging. Baka-nin fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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night lords spoilers: Is Decimus supposed to be Octavia and Septimus' son? How would that work, considering how Octavia isn't technically human? Variel seemed to think it could work though, though that raises the question of just how a Night Lord managed to kidnap a child living on (presumably) Terra of all places
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Whorelord posted:night lords spoilers: ADB likes it implied but ambiguous. I don't think they went to Terra though, just some other planet. Terra they would be executed pdq
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It's not ambiguous at all, it's pretty clearly set up that he's their son. e: I just reread the omnibus like two weeks ago I really don't understand how it could be any clearer. hopterque fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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hopterque posted:It's not ambiguous at all, it's pretty clearly set up that he's their son. Take it up with the man himself, I'm just parroting what he has said when he gets asked about it. So we've joked about how Event Horizon is the closest to a 40k movie we will ever get, but I'd like to tentatively add another movie to that list. Check out the new trailer for Mad Max, it is old school Chaos as gently caress https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJnMQG9ev8&feature=youtu.be Guitar-sword-flamethrower is totally a noisemarine weapon
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Max is actually the Emperor during the Age of Strife as he slowly worked his way into legend to unify humanity.
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Fried Chicken posted:Take it up with the man himself, I'm just parroting what he has said when he gets asked about it. NO. Fury Road is Gorkamorka brought to glorious life.  Bonus Goff Rokkers. 
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I should really stop spending my entire leisure budget on omnibuses that I won't get to for another 2 years, but I just have to have all the stories.
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Abyss posted:I should really stop spending my entire leisure budget on omnibuses that I won't get to for another 2 years, but I just have to have all the stories. Considering how bad BL is at reprinting stuff, I don't blame you for stocking up.
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Sulecrist posted:Shadow Point was the first BL book I ever read. I got rid of most of my 40k books when I moved about five years ago, but I kept and treasured Shadow Point and Execution Hour and I'm really glad I did. Glad someone mentioned these. Also, one of the first books I read after Ian Watson's. Refresh my memory, but isn't one of the ships run entirely by servitors who are connected to a veteran captain who after being horribly injured had himself fused with the machine spirit of his ship? I remember there being a really awesome part at the end of Shadowpoint where after you thought he had been killed he manages to get the jump on a Dark Eldar vessel, and destroy it after spending most of the book playing cat N mouse with them in an asteroid field. Hell, if I remember correctly the Dark Eldar had been responsible for his injuries earlier in his career.
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Can anyone tell me what pre-Heresy and Heresy-era Chaplains looked like in Legions other than the Word Bearers and Blood Angels? I'm specifically interested in Ultramarines and Sons of Horus. I know the Word Bearers chaplains darkened their armor to match the ash of Monarchia, and the Blood Angels already had black-armored Wardens, but I can't find any art or fluff about whether an Ultramarines or Sons of Horus chaplain would resemble a Chaplain as 40k knows it (skull helmet, winged scepter, black armor, etc).Uroboros posted:Glad someone mentioned these. Also, one of the first books I read after Ian Watson's. I think that captain had an "armoured strategium" that he was floating around in, like Darth Vader nekkid in a meditation chamber filled with water but the rest of the ship had a normal crew. I need to re-read those books; I loved them so much.
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