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baw posted:Then they lose the Evangelical vote, which is critical for them to even have a chance at the presidency.
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baw posted:Like, the US is becoming less white. That's not really disputable. lol sorry, I meant the racism part.
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CommieGIR posted:Sounds about right. They are still pushing for Abstinence only sex ed in the South despite our loving awful Teen Pregnancy rates (and the weird idea that if you tell kids not to do something, they won't do it.) One of American politics' greatest ironies. It's ridiculous. You can't reduce teen pregnancies by telling kids contraception doesn't work. That's some white-is-black, up-is-down level batshittery.
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JT Jag posted:What chance at the presidency do they have now? Small share of the youth and women vote, almost no share of the minority vote, aging voterbase. Their current strategy is doomed to oblivion. Honestly unless something really goddamn crazy happens then they're hosed for 2016, and then they have one or two more presidential elections until Texas is in play.
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Accretionist posted:One of American politics' greatest ironies. It's ridiculous. You can't reduce teen pregnancies by telling kids contraception doesn't work. That's some white-is-black, up-is-down level batshittery. It doesn't reduce pregnancies, but it does increase the amount of votes you get which is of course the real objective.
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baw posted:Like, the US is becoming less white. That's not really disputable. History shows that "White" is really malleable. Wouldn't take a lot for Hispanics to follow the path of the Irish, Italians, Polish, Greeks, Roma, or Turks and become white
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JT Jag posted:Within the century whites won't even be the majority ethnicity, even if they build a wall in all likelihood Thereby justifying white middle America's fears of a diminishing white population and giving them an excuse to double down on racial identity as a political motivator.
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Fried Chicken posted:History shows that "White" is really malleable. Wouldn't take a lot for Hispanics to follow the path of the Irish, Italians, Polish, Greeks, Roma, or Turks and become "white". They tried that 70 years ago and it didn't work. Like, literally the whole theme of Hispanics during the Civil Rights movement was to say "we're not just another white subclass, we're our own thing".
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Dr. Tough posted:Whites will always be a majority of the US population. The day that "white" as it's defined now dips to 49.9% is the day that "hispanic" disappears as a racial category.
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Fried Chicken posted:History shows that "White" is really malleable. Wouldn't take a lot for Hispanics to follow the path of the Irish, Italians, Polish, Greeks, Roma, or Turks and become "white". That's true, but for the GOP to cater to them they'd have to drop the anti-immigration stuff and good luck doing that without pissing off their core constituents.
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baw posted:Honestly unless something really goddamn crazy happens then they're hosed for 2016, and then they have one or two more presidential elections until Texas is in play. Do not underestimate the general voting public's complete inability to remember anything important about the people they've been given a choice to vote between.
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Accretionist posted:One of American politics' greatest ironies. It's ridiculous. You can't reduce teen pregnancies by telling kids contraception doesn't work. That's some white-is-black, up-is-down level batshittery. Its also the worst sales pitch ever. You have 2 options to try to sell to these horny little bastards. a. Never have sex even though you want to 24/7 and will spend the next few years thinking of nothing else b. Have lots of sex, go for it, its fun and just do it, all you have to do is wear this one incredibly cheap and easy to procure thing, it fits in your wallet if you want. I wonder which will be more effective 
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Slate Action posted:It doesn't reduce pregnancies, but it does increase the amount of votes you get which is of course the real objective. Somebody think of the easily exploitable children and the Quiverfull movement 
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D1Sergo posted:Do not underestimate the general voting public's complete inability to remember anything important about the people they've been given a choice to vote between. let me be optimistic a bit ok
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Catching up on the new thread and good job Cosmo for using a Pat Bagley cartoon, the guy's great. He used to mostly just draw funny cartoons relevant to local culture but as time went on he's gone more and more bugfuck (in a good way). Guess that's what happens when you're a liberal in Utah. I still need to get me a copy of Pat and Kirby Go to Hell..
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Dr. Tough posted:Whites will always be a majority of the US population. The day that "white" as it's defined now dips to 49.9% is the day that "hispanic" disappears as a racial category. hmmm nah
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Spaceman Future! posted:Its also the worst sales pitch ever. You have 2 options to try to sell to these horny little bastards.
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computer parts posted:They tried that 70 years ago and it didn't work. White people make the rules on who's white though. v  v And it's already happening anyhow. Once upon a time Ted Cruz would have not been counted as white.
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Dr. Tough posted:Whites will always be a majority of the US population. The day that "white" as it's defined now dips to 49.9% is the day that "hispanic" disappears as a racial category. "Hispanic" isn't a racial category, but is rapidly becoming one.
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Accretionist posted:One of American politics' greatest ironies. It's ridiculous. You can't reduce teen pregnancies by telling kids contraception doesn't work. That's some white-is-black, up-is-down level batshittery. No it's working perfectly as intended. Either you follow God's will and refrain from the evils of fornication or you get the deserved punishment of STDs or an unwanted child. EDIT: As a funny sidenote, some libertarian shitheel actually wrote an article in my university paper using this argument unironically. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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ReidRansom posted:White people make the rules on who's white though. v Once upon a time Ted Cruz would be a Castilian instead of a mestizo (because he has money, not because of his ancestry).
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computer parts posted:They tried that 70 years ago and it didn't work. Chicano rights was more about land grants, farm labor, and combatting Mexican stereotypes than "hey we aren't white, we have our own unified identity", and Hispanic encompasses more than just Mexican, who were the driving force behind that. But I suppose we'll see. I look at Ted Cruz and see him and his stances and see what I'm talking about.
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Ex-Congressman, current-deadbeat dad, future Illinois Senate candidate Joe Walsh will be broadcasting his talk radio show from Memories Pizza in Walkerton, IN.
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Talmonis posted:The former? probably not very many. I'd be wary of moving to a place where the vast majority of people don't look/talk like I do. I'd worry that they'd think I was some kind of gentrifier or worse. I'd worry they'd hate me for being white. I would however, move to a black neighborhood one hell of a lot quicker than one where I don't speak the language, regardless of color. I don't like being an outsider. Nobody does. And this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's way easier to see black people as "others" no matter what your political leanings are than it is to see gays as "others".
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JT Jag posted:Let's say that, in theory, a Republican congress endorses federal weed decriminalization (or at least nationwide legalization of medical cannabis) before a Democratic president lowers its Stage. And drops the gay bashing and... hell, maybe eases off abortion. Even with their lower class-destroying economic policies, a slight easing of their social policies as well as throwing a bone to the young voters that the Dems haven't yet would get them a lot of attention. Obama will tell the world that he really is a communist before that happens.
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Joementum posted:Ex-Congressman, current-deadbeat dad, future Illinois Senate candidate Joe Walsh will be broadcasting his talk radio show from Memories Pizza in Walkerton, IN. Of course he will. It's not about discrimination though.
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Joementum posted:Ex-Congressman, current-deadbeat dad, future Illinois Senate candidate Joe Walsh will be broadcasting his talk radio show from Memories Pizza in Walkerton, IN. will he be running vs duckworth oh please oh please
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joeburz posted:will he be running vs duckworth oh please oh please No, Mark Kirk will be.
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Joementum posted:Ex-Congressman, current-deadbeat dad, future Illinois Senate candidate Joe Walsh will be broadcasting his talk radio show from Memories Pizza in Walkerton, IN. Now all SA can do to stop him is organize a kiss-in at Memories. That dastardly Walsh, what will he think of next? Cheating on his taxes?! joeburz posted:will he be running vs duckworth oh please oh please He'll tell you to your face that Strokey McStroke ain't smiling his way past the primary, and he'll be the ones to cap the knees of Duckworth's campaign.
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joeburz posted:will he be running vs duckworth oh please oh please He has said he's "very seriously considering" it, but he won't face Duckworth again even if he does.
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D1Sergo posted:Nah we'll just go back to picking on the Irish. Believe me, we don't need skin tone in order to discriminate against people for vaguely perceived differences. Maybe we'll just start discriminating against shifty-eyed people. The Irish aren't white, though?
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Joementum posted:He has said he's "very seriously considering" it, but he won't face Duckworth again even if he does. Why, what have you heard? Please, god, anything but Senator Quinn. GreyjoyBastard posted:The Irish aren't white, though? They're as white as all the DP's 'round these parts.
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A Winner is Jew posted:And this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's way easier to see black people as "others" no matter what your political leanings are than it is to see gays as "others". Are you trying to say that African-American culture and neighborhoods aren't different than white neighborhoods? Because I don't agree. I would not fit into a black neighborhood without serious time and investment. Ditto for a neighborhood of immigrants or a gated white community.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:No, Mark Kirk will be. is he going to run again with his stroke problems? also lol quote:In a speech on the floor of the House in 2003, Kirk stated: “The last time I was in Iraq I was in uniform, flying at 20,000 feet, and the Iraqi Air Defense network was shooting at us”. Kirk has since clarified his statement, indicating that there is no record of his aircraft being fired upon.[25] “I simply misremembered [sic] it wrong”, he told the Chicago Sun-Times, referring to his military record.[26]
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Accretionist posted:From the end of last thread, I thought this deserved more attention:  Awesome.
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A Winner is Jew posted:And this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's way easier to see black people as "others" no matter what your political leanings are than it is to see gays as "others". Also there's a lot less interaction between blacks and whites than there ought to be because so many things are still effectively segregated. There are plenty of minorities where I live but if I didn't have friends that were minorities I'd rarely interact with them. My workplace is so segregated (100% white office, manufacturing is like half asian half black) a slave owner could probably tour the place without noticing anything amiss.
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^^^ basically this ^^^Talmonis posted:Are you trying to say that African-American culture and neighborhoods aren't different than white neighborhoods? Because I don't agree. I would not fit into a black neighborhood without serious time and investment. Ditto for a neighborhood of immigrants or a gated white community. They are, but if you ask a bunch of white liberals if they would move into an asian, mexican or black community they would more than likely pick those communities in that order. It's mostly down to how much interaction there's been between white's and those "other" ethnic groups.
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joeburz posted:is he going to run again with his stroke problems? Yes, he already said he will.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Catching up on the new thread and good job Cosmo for using a Pat Bagley cartoon, the guy's great. He used to mostly just draw funny cartoons relevant to local culture but as time went on he's gone more and more bugfuck (in a good way). Guess that's what happens when you're a liberal in Utah. I still need to get me a copy of Pat and Kirby Go to Hell.. Came across it in the Political Cartoons thread when reviewing cartoons from the last month to find the best ones to drop in, and there was no way I could pass on that McConnell caricature.
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