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Call Me Charlie posted:Besides disabling the screen entirely, which would require a mouse to turn back on, I could only find something called Zoom Player that added it in a beta. http://forum.inmatrix.com/index.php?showtopic=14448 Thanks for looking, I'll give it a try and report back.
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Didn't see it posted, but looks like there is a Surface 3 incoming; running full Windows & not RT: http://gizmodo.com/microsoft-surface-3-hands-on-slim-light-and-a-real-c-1694467609
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The rumor mill had been going on that for a while, but it looks like it's officially announced now, yeah. Just got an email from the Microsoft Store about it. Form factor basically identical to SP3 (a bit smaller), ships with Cherry Trail, starts at $499.
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loquacius posted:The rumor mill had been going on that for a while, but it looks like it's officially announced now, yeah. Just got an email from the Microsoft Store about it. Form factor basically identical to SP3 (a bit smaller), ships with Cherry Trail, starts at $499. Goddamn it, I was hoping for a $399 price point. And the pen costs extra.
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I like it. Honestly, i wish this was available when I bought my SP3 as I probably would have went with it instead. I'll be interested to see how the reviews shape up.
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The screen is 1920×1280, which is a lower resolution than the SP3 but still pretty respectable for a windows tablet. I was half expecting it to be really low-res as a differentiating factor from the pro version, as bay trail/cherry trail is pretty much good enough for general use. e: completely wrong ^^^ Clark Nova fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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I wonder perf-wise how these two will stack up? Surface Pro 1: Dual-core 1.70GHz Core i5-3317U [GeekBench benchmark single-core:2100, multi-core:4200] Surface 3: "Cherry Trail" Quad-core 1.6GHz Atom x7 processor [GeekBench benchmark single-core:980, multi-core:3200] I do all my VisualStudio/Photoshop/Office/Outlook work on my Surface Pro 1, and don't suffer from slowness, and feel like I'd be happier with a lower-power device. Especially [brag!] now that VS2015 compiles VB code 50% faster than before on quad-core machines. I know it sounds crazy, but I'd love to downsize still further.
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Clark Nova posted:
Microsoft page lists a microSD card slot. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface-3/productID.314885500 There's also no 32gb option. It's a 64gb/128gb device.
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Wish they went with a type C connector instead of micro USB for charging. gently caress it, I'm preordering one. Wiseblood fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:Goddamn it, I was hoping for a $399 price point. And the pen costs extra. Yeah that's a bit steep when the Dell Venue 10 Pro 5000 Series costs $430 with 64 GB of storage, a FHD screen, and the keyboard dock and the pen is only $35. (Though given all the issues with the Venue 8 Pro's pen, I'd be cautious) Granted, the Surface is a little thinner and lighter, has a more powerful processor, has a bigger RAM and storage option, higher resolution cameras, ac wireless, and an already well proven stylus compared to the Dell. Maybe not worth the $120 difference for the comparable base tablets alone though. I don't know if there is anything that's quite comparable to the high end model which I might consider. It's too bad the LTE models won't be available until midsummer but I already have a cellphone plan with internet sharing so it's not a big deal breaker. Something I learned from using my Lenovo Yoga 10 as a small laptop replacement is that USB OTG can be finicky as hell. So any future tablet I get as a small laptop replacement has to have a full size USB or a USB-C port. Edward IV fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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Clark Nova posted:The screen is 1920×1280, which is a lower resolution than the SP3 but still pretty respectable for a windows tablet. It's above the magic 200DPI barrier so I'm happy enough with that. I'll wait until summer to make sure there are no terrible problems with it, then I'll probably get one.
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Wow, one of those new Surface 3s looks absolutely perfect for school for me. I'll be going to court reporting school, so I need something (relatively) portable to lug around with my steno + tripod + all the other 40 pounds of detritus I'll be lugging around, and this fits the bill perfectly. I can pull it out to do corrections quickly, and it doesn't take up too much space when not in use.TopherCStone posted:It's above the magic 200DPI barrier so I'm happy enough with that. I'll wait until summer to make sure there are no terrible problems with it, then I'll probably get one. I agree. I'll wait for reviews, as always, but this is an impressive piece of hardware from the looks of it.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:37
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How will that atom cpu handle intensive webpages? My ipad air is terrible at them, scrolling rapidly through a site like theverge actually crashes the tab sometimes, when it works it's slow with plenty of rendering delays. It struggles with image heavy SA threads too, probably due to a lack of RAM. I had an OG surface pro for a while which was superb for that but the heat and lack of battery life were deal breakers, could the surface 3 be a perfect compromise?
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I've never noticed my dell venue pro 8 having much of a problem with any website. I just tried the verge and everything was loading quickly enough for me. The surface 3 looks pretty nice, though I wish they had made it a bit smaller. I'd like something in the 9" range. I can comfortably hold my venue pro in 1 hand, but probably not anything that's much larger.
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dyne posted:I've never noticed my dell venue pro 8 having much of a problem with any website. I just tried the verge and everything was loading quickly enough for me. I think their concern was for the keyboard cover; they'd have to do a lot more squeezing and make a thoroughly unfulfilling experience to make that happen.
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Anybody hear what kind of stylus the new Asus Chi series has? http://www.asus.com/gr/Notebook_Ultrabook_Accessories/ASUS_Chi_Stylus/overview/ - edit It's synaptics. Yuck. Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Worth a double post, it seems like display models of the Surface 3 are at retail Microsoft Stores for anybody who wants a hands on before preordering. http://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/312fi9/just_a_heads_up_the_surface_3_are_at_microsoft/
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Flipperwaldt posted:MEDION AKOYA E1234T Tablet (MD 99400) - 199€ It's amazing how much more sense the whole metro thing makes on a tablet. I'm actually getting some use out of it. The precision of the touch panel is great. I didn't really expect the desktop end to be as usable as it is without peripherals. Much better than what I've experienced on Android devices so far. Still not really good for drawing, but whatever. At least it isn't missing half the keystrokes when you're typing. I know Windows' dpi scaling on hi-res laptops can be poo poo in some programs if it goes over 150%, but with 1920x1200 at 10", 150% is just about right and apart from the occasional slightly fuzzy dialog, it all looks gorgeous. It probably helps that I won't expect to be using anything like PhotoShop (or anything else notoriously failing to scale right) on this tablet. Battery life seems alright if you continually adjust the brightness to the minimum that's readable. The only thing I actively hate is that share USB on the go/charging port affair. I'd like to be able to connect a game controller for my dosbox poo poo, even while charging, dammit. But then that's a problem on most tablets, from what I understand. I know nobody cares because of the weird limited availability, even in Europe, never mind the States, but I just want to say I'm really happy and that I'm really happy that thanks to this thread I didn't buy a 1GB ram/16GB storage toy like the HP Stream 7. I can feel very clearly where the limits are on this thing and that it's going to be fine for my uses. I probably wouldn't have been as happy with anything less though. And I had to test posting through the Awful app, of course 
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Flipperwaldt posted:It's amazing how much more sense the whole metro thing makes on a tablet. I'm actually getting some use out of it. I've found that the whole Metro/desktop split personality actually makes sense if you use a tablet as a desktop machine at home but you occasionally take it on the road with you and need to access the same content. You just interface with it in different ways depending on the circumstance. Microsoft certainly didn't have this in mind when they designed Win8, but they'd be fools not to tailor future versions around this concept.
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So I checked out the Surface 3 and I'm feeling it. It's very much the quality of the Pro 3 in a smaller (and cheaper) package. It also seemed to run Win 8.1 very smoothly which was nice. Right now, because of how intensive my use is (I usually have 10+ chrome tabs open, 3 chat programs, Word, Excel, 7+ text files open in SublimeText, and SSH. Sometimes, also statistical work. So, instead of expecting a laptop to be able to handle all of that, I usually just remote into my home desktop and work that way. I still occasionally do need to work on the laptop if my home desktop broke for whatever reason, and I need it to be able to at least do some light browsing, Pandora, chat apps (Skype). I'm wondering if you guys think the specs on a Surface 3 should be able to handle this. My current laptop (that can handle the remoting but not really much else) is an i7 Sandy Bridge with 4G of RAM. I'm not sure how to compare the specs.
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Your existing i7 laptop is more than sufficient to handle any light browsing work + remoting so I'm not sure how a Surface would be better except if you're looking to transition to something lighter.
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shrike82 posted:Your existing i7 laptop is more than sufficient to handle any light browsing work + remoting so I'm not sure how a Surface would be better except if you're looking to transition to something lighter. I prefer the Surface form factor because I do a lot of mathematical proofs by hand. But the main problem with my current i7 is that for some reason it's a piece of poo poo. I usually have Skype and a few browser tabs open and it is takes forever to do anything on it. Just opening the start screen and getting remote desktop open takes 2-3 minutes. I've had it in to Lenovo a few times while it was under warranty (including right before it came out of warranty) and it just seems my usage is too heavy or something. My disk usage is usually close to or at 100% with no specific culprit, and my memory's usually 70+. I think it's mostly because I don't have an SSD and I only have 4Gigs of RAM, and everything I use seems to suck up RAM like it's crack. I'm mostly being cheap because I don't want to shell out for a Pro, but I might just do that.
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Rurutia posted:I prefer the Surface form factor because I do a lot of mathematical proofs by hand. But the main problem with my current i7 is that for some reason it's a piece of poo poo. I usually have Skype and a few browser tabs open and it is takes forever to do anything on it. Just opening the start screen and getting remote desktop open takes 2-3 minutes. I've had it in to Lenovo a few times while it was under warranty (including right before it came out of warranty) and it just seems my usage is too heavy or something. My disk usage is usually close to or at 100% with no specific culprit, and my memory's usually 70+. I think it's mostly because I don't have an SSD and I only have 4Gigs of RAM, and everything I use seems to suck up RAM like it's crack. It's undoubtedly the lack of an SSD on your regular laptop. One of those will make all the difference in the world. Ask them at the MS Store if you get a return guarantee. Perhaps they'll refund you within 10 days if it can't do what you need?
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Between a Surface and an ultrabook - I bought a Surface Pro 3 when I went back to do my MBA, thinking that I'd use the stylus for note-taking in class. In its favour and presumably the Surface 3's, the stylus works really well and the fidelity of handwritten notes is great on OneNote. The problem is that I ended up going back to paper and pen because a single-screen paradigm for written notes doesn't work when you need to cross-reference multiple screens of notes. A couple classmates with SP3s have stuck with it and end up printing their OneNote notes but that kind of defeats the purpose of it. And once the stylus becomes less useful, the trade-offs that went into making the Surface become less palatable. The Type Cover sucks - keyboard and touchpad. And the setup simply doesn't work for casual web-browsing on a couch or in bed versus a traditional clamshell laptop due to the kick-stand and the top heavy nature of the screen. I ended up getting a Chromebook for that. It doesn't work as a tablet because of the lack of proper Metro apps and the fan kicking in for HD videos. YMMV and I'm sure there're tons of happy Surface users out there but I'd think long and hard about whether the stylus of the Surface is worth the other shortcomings of the system.
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shrike82 posted:Between a Surface and an ultrabook - I actually spent all of undergrad and grad school taking notes and doing homework using a convertible tablet. I vastly prefer it for keeping my notes straight. I know what you mean about the single page thing, I just never found it that big of a deal when on OneNote a single gesture allows you to zoom in and out so I can write huge (which I do) and then shrink it to see everything in one glance vs writing a proof over 10 pages of paper and then having to lay it all out over my entire bed (what I used to do). Also the quick erasing and being able to move customizable chunks of proof around is invaluable and a huge time saver. The only time I printed out notes was when I had an open book exam. I mean, obviously I could just go with a Lenovo Yoga or something, but being able to rip off the keyboard when I'm needing to write something and having OneNote be one hard button away is very attractive. If I'm honest, I probably won't try to use it with the keyboard outside of sitting at a desk. I'm planning on getting the bluetooth attachment to the keyboard so I can put the screen somewhere higher and have the keyboard on my lap. Not to say you're wrong to caution, I agree with you. But I do think I am very much their exact target market. Nerdrock posted:It's undoubtedly the lack of an SSD on your regular laptop. One of those will make all the difference in the world. Yeah, that's what I thought. Good idea about the return guarantee, I'll ask. Although I was planning on getting it from BestBuy so I can stack a mover's coupon with the student discount...
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Huh, I've just started looking for a decent Windows tablet that I can draw on and the Surface 3 pops up just when I need it. Does it use the same digitizer and stylus as the Surface Pro 3? I tried drawing on one of them in a shop today and it was sublime, so if that's the case then I think I'm sold on it.
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Same digitizer but you'll have to pay $50 extra for the stylus, not to mention cost of keyboard cover. The stylus is great though.  edit: holy poo poo there's colors for the stylus now  and the red even matches my type cover
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If you can deal with a smaller screen the Toshiba Encore 2 Write is nice for taking notes.
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The 10" Write doesn't seem to be available in the UK, as far as I can see. I've got an 8" tablet, it's fine but 10" really is the minimum for desktop productivity. Unless there's a cheaper tablet at that size that's suitable for drawing, I'll probably start saving for a Surface 3.
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:Same digitizer but you'll have to pay $50 extra for the stylus, not to mention cost of keyboard cover. The stylus is great though. If you have a Costco membership, they have a bundle where you get the 64 GB Surface, the stylus and the type cover for $599 http://www.costco.com/Microsoft-Surface-3-Bundle-%7c-Intel-Atom-Quad-Core-%7c-Full-HD-Plus-%7c-Office-365-Personal-.product.100176668.html or they have the 128 GB one for $699 http://www.costco.com/Microsoft-Surface-3-Bundle-%7c-Intel-Atom-Quad-Core-%7c-Full-HD-Plus-%7c-Office-365-Personal.product.100176667.html
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Call Me Charlie posted:If you have a Costco membership, they have a bundle where you get the 64 GB Surface, the stylus and the type cover for $599 http://www.costco.com/Microsoft-Surface-3-Bundle-%7c-Intel-Atom-Quad-Core-%7c-Full-HD-Plus-%7c-Office-365-Personal-.product.100176668.html or they have the 128 GB one for $699 http://www.costco.com/Microsoft-Surface-3-Bundle-%7c-Intel-Atom-Quad-Core-%7c-Full-HD-Plus-%7c-Office-365-Personal.product.100176667.html This is what all vendors should offer. It's a $170 savings right off the bat. Worth getting a Costco membership just for this (but we already have a membership don't we?). Good deal.
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Call Me Charlie posted:If you have a Costco membership, they have a bundle where you get the 64 GB Surface, the stylus and the type cover for $599 http://www.costco.com/Microsoft-Surface-3-Bundle-%7c-Intel-Atom-Quad-Core-%7c-Full-HD-Plus-%7c-Office-365-Personal-.product.100176668.html or they have the 128 GB one for $699 http://www.costco.com/Microsoft-Surface-3-Bundle-%7c-Intel-Atom-Quad-Core-%7c-Full-HD-Plus-%7c-Office-365-Personal.product.100176667.html That seems like a hell of a deal. Might have to check that out.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Lenovo Yoga Tablet 2 with Windows (13") ($599.99 for basic 64 GB model) Well, gently caress, I just bought a refurbished one of these from Lenovo Outlet for $350 shipped. Guess I'll post a trip report when it comes in. I was trying to hold out for something with a digitizer but the price was just too good.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Well, gently caress, I just bought a refurbished one of these from Lenovo Outlet for $350 shipped. Guess I'll post a trip report when it comes in. I was trying to hold out for something with a digitizer but the price was just too good. Does that include the keyboard? I'm on the website and it just shows the tablet. That's a drat good price though and if it includes the keyboard I might have to get one.
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Auron posted:Does that include the keyboard? I'm on the website and it just shows the tablet. That's a drat good price though and if it includes the keyboard I might have to get one. Two guys at Slickdeals reported that they came with the keyboard. http://slickdeals.net/f/7752039-lenovo-outlet-windows-8-1-yoga-tablet-2-10-196-or-yoga-tablet-2-13-302-refurbished-fs?v=1
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I totally don't need that Refurb yoga 2 tablet since I have a SP1 , but man is it tempting at that price point. Edit: Would it be an upgrade? The 15 hour battery life would beat the crap out of my SP1. However the reduction in storage would be a negative. JayKay fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:Besides disabling the screen entirely, which would require a mouse to turn back on, I could only find something called Zoom Player that added it in a beta. http://forum.inmatrix.com/index.php?showtopic=14448 Reporting back on this, eeeehhh. It does have a lock screen (which is buggy but works with enough effort), so that actually worked out fine. But the player is buggy as hell. When you open it, it gives you 3 modes to choose from: Tablet, PC, and HDTV. Choosing Tablet makes the player take over your desktop, such that you have to restart the tablet to get it back (the close button in the player just opens a screen that says "this feature is not available in the free version"). So I used it in PC mode, which brings up all sorts of UI issues, but does work. OldPueblo posted:I believe the VLC metro app also has a lock on the screen. I'll have to give that a try.
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