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Boxing Snatcher
Jul 4, 2011

I have been looking for some great Beef Jerky since my local convenience store changed owners.
Yeah, I know it's a marketing thing. I just wish instead of stringing along people who actually want to buy it with Soon™, they just kinda be honest, hey we want more hype. I get it.

Yes I am being almost unreasonably bothered by this, marketing in games has bothered me for a while now.

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Fina
Feb 27, 2006

Shazbot!
I'm excited for the game too but if Tripwire is comfortable enough with the state of the game that they're giving it out to streamers who can show live, un-edited footage then it can only mean that EA is inching closer and closer to the public.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
The youtube superstars getting first crack means free advertising and you good at this players get to feel all superior when they make all the stupid mistakes you never would (but I definably will).

And I guess hopefully more incentive for them to go 'oh holy poo poo how did we miss that bug' before they hand it to us normal people.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Boxing Snatcher posted:

Apparently they're letting youtubers and streamers get first crack at it. That's a bit of a bummer.

I wanted to stream it on day 1 :/

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Gonna make a new YouTube LetPlay channel. Just gonna have clips of screeching howler monkeys strung together pretty much the same thing. Now give me the game, TripWire

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

I wanted to stream it on day 1 :/

Get more famous, really quickly.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
Oh god, some of the grind in Killing Floor 1 is absurd. Specifically welding and shooting invisible women.

As an aside why is killing floor's community so nice? Every pubbie I play with always says thank you after I heal them and freely shares money and stuff. There was only 1 person in the past year I've played that acted like a douche and everyone just ignored him then made fun of him when he rage-quitted.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Red Mundus posted:

Oh god, some of the grind in Killing Floor 1 is absurd. Specifically welding and shooting invisible women.

As an aside why is killing floor's community so nice? Every pubbie I play with always says thank you after I heal them and freely shares money and stuff. There was only 1 person in the past year I've played that acted like a douche and everyone just ignored him then made fun of him when he rage-quitted.

I've been wondering this myself. Most games I've played, the goon presence tended to be much preferable to playing with random strangers. In this one, I could count the number of jerks on one hand; everyone's just so friendly and happy to chat :3:

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
If I had to guess, it would be the basic fundamental nature of the game.

Everyone is here to have a good time, kill zeds, get dosh. You are not going to worry if that support is getting more kills per second killing three+ clots per shotgun shell when you are busy popping the heads off gorefasts or BBQing crawlers like it's going out of style.

And then everybody has a money fight when you wipe on the patriarch because you are all bads win the level yaaay.

Tamayachi
Sep 25, 2007

Did you think about it?


Yes. Yes you did.

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Gonna make a new YouTube LetPlay channel. Just gonna have clips of screeching howler monkeys strung together pretty much the same thing. Now give me the game, TripWire

Silvixx has got you beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XBsea6kDHM


EDIT: Bullshit, that was a playlist of like 50 videos of howler monkeys screeching.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
I think giving it to streamers first is a good idea to help spread awareness and sell the game to people that aren't huge fans of the KF series or just don't really know about it. People like TotalBiscuit have really boosted the popularity of games in the past thanks to their videos and steams on them.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
Watching Criken gently caress around in both Left 4 Dead games convinced me to get them. I'm easily amused by his childlike antics, though.

also he subtitles large sections of his videos, that helped a lot. What with me being deaf and all.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

is there an update somewhere. plz. i don't ask for much.

Tamayachi
Sep 25, 2007

Did you think about it?


Yes. Yes you did.

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

is there an update somewhere. plz. i don't ask for much.

Update: There are no new updates :(

Boxing Snatcher
Jul 4, 2011

I have been looking for some great Beef Jerky since my local convenience store changed owners.
Developers were walking around in red painted dosh shirts, chanting "soon, soon". Reporters have no idea what it means.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!
new posts in the kf2 thread?!

clot.jpg

Slybo lock the thread until EA is announced or there's new videos or something :cry:

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
New preview coming from TotalBiscuit on Wednesday.

Broose
Oct 28, 2007
I am hyped. Even if it is TotalBiscuit.

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
Is that the number of Zeds left this wave or his IQ? Stay tuned to find out.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Don't fuckin care about some douchebag streamers. Give us the game

Fruit-by-the-Foot Fetish
Aug 3, 2012

Boxing Snatcher posted:

Apparently they're letting youtubers and streamers get first crack at it. That's a bit of a bummer.

It is a bummer, but that's the tradeoff, streamers provide the cheapest advertising possible at the expense of the developer allowing some dipshit to profit from their work.

Boxing Snatcher
Jul 4, 2011

I have been looking for some great Beef Jerky since my local convenience store changed owners.
Embargo is up tomorrow for press, so prepare for more not news, and more soon's, soon.

turnways
Jun 22, 2004

Fine, fine, you want a release date?

I cave. April 21st. There you go.

Ahdinko
Oct 27, 2007

WHAT A LOVELY DAY

turnways posted:

Fine, fine, you want a release date?

I cave. April 21st. There you go.

Cant tell if this is real or not
:shepspends:

(Did you get the WONGA bloke in the end?)

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014

Ahdinko posted:

Cant tell if this is real or not
:shepspends:

(Did you get the WONGA bloke in the end?)
http://www.pcgamer.com/killing-floor-2-release-date-revealed/
30 dollas/27 euros too.

turnways
Jun 22, 2004

Ahdinko posted:

Cant tell if this is real or not
:shepspends:

(Did you get the WONGA bloke in the end?)

Nah, some articles came out though.

Ahdinko
Oct 27, 2007

WHAT A LOVELY DAY
drat yeah, £20. You guys are conning yourselves at that money! Given how much fun I've got out of KF1, I'd have pre-ordered at £30 without even thinking about it.

Ahdinko fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Apr 7, 2015

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!
$30? Turnways :love: thanks for puttin up with our goony poo poo.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

turnways posted:

Fine, fine, you want a release date?

I cave. April 21st. There you go.

You loving own

Boxing Snatcher
Jul 4, 2011

I have been looking for some great Beef Jerky since my local convenience store changed owners.
Yaaaaaaaaaay. Can't wait to throw hours and hours of my hours at it!

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
Okay that new Head model for the Scrake makes him look a lot less goofy.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
I need to try and avoid action game amounts of mouse clicking and controller usage for incredibly mild but annoying health reasons right now, but I'm still buying this as soon as it hits early access even if it just sits there on my hard drive doing nothing.

Target Practice
Aug 20, 2004

Shit.
Toilet posting, buyin' dis.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
im gonna kill zombies

Inside Out Mom
Jan 9, 2004

Franklin B. Znorps
Dignity, Class, Internet
We got a date awww poo poo. Maintain levels of pumped.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Broose posted:

I am hyped. Even if it is TotalBiscuit.

total biscuit has a 120+ IQ, you pleb

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
This is a repost from my rant forum on my site and since I'm interested only in it being read, rather than advertising or shilling it out for hits, I'm going to just repost it here. Before I do let me give you a quick introduction.

I finally registered on the SA forums a week or so ago having been a loyal reader for a couple of years. I don't like the new design of the site, I want to kill it with fire, I liked my good-old Web1.0 scrolly site, give it back please.

I'm posting this here because you lot are smart, and as such, I have no issues with you telling me that you think I'm wrong with this pseudo-rant. This may also be preaching to the choir a bit and for that I sincerely apologize. I hope at least you get some enjoyment out of this. If you're one of those fellows who likes to Digg, the article also has a Digg page, do with it as you see fit - http://digg.com/general_sciences/At...you_intelligent

With that said and done, here goes.

"It's novello time, and it's about religion, so unless you're ready to deal with some views you may not agree with, switch off now. In the words of Illidan "You are not prepared".

Let's get this out here right now. I'm a 23 year old law graduate with an IQ of 155. My political beliefs are liberal and leftist, I listen to Metal and I enjoy violent movies, books and videogames, and I've been a Christian since birth. Baptised, confirmed of my own free will, son of a priest (who are pretty notorious for rebelling against their father's religious beliefs just for the sake of it). I'm part of the Anglican Church of England, which is pretty much the result of Henry the 8th getting pissed off with the catholics not allowing him to divorce his wife(s). We're the state religion of the UK, if you could even say the UK has one, we're pretty liberal about most things, women priests, gay priests, homosexuals in general, sex before marriage, contraception, we take the modern, reasonable way of looking at all of them. At the end of the day, the Bible taught us about forgiveness and being excellent to one another. It had a bit of a round-about way of doing it but what do you expect for a 2000 year old book written entirely by clerical males? It's gonna be a bit out of date, you've gotta read it in context.

I have no problems with anyone's beliefs. Be whatever you want, as long as you believe (or don't believe) for a good reason. But here's what I really don't like, trend-atheism/trend-theism (also referred to as e-atheism, since it seems to be most prevelant in the domain of anonymous blogspammers and Digg-users).

In my late teens, I spent a long time thinking. Yeah, just sitting around and thinking, thinking about faith. Thinking about what it is that I believe in. Rationalizing the various conflicts and contradictions that faith presents us with, looking at the viewpoints of other faiths, or those with no faith at all, taking into account the new things we discover every day and factoring in the influence of science. Some people would claim that, if I had indeed done that, I'd have come to the conclusion, as an intellectual, rational thinker, that God does not exist. They would of course, be wrong.

My beliefs center around several factors. Firstly, it is important for us as human-beings to realize our own limits, and the limits of our understanding. Centuries ago we believed the world was flat. "The Bible told us so!", would be the first cry. Wrong, it really didn't. In the Old Testament, Job 26:7 explains that the earth is suspended in space, the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon. The Old Testament, you remember that one? The one with the fiery bushes, the pillar's of salt, the cool plagues and such? Even that managed to get it right. There's a few more references as well to the 'round' earth (and before you say anything, flat is not a shape, it could have been a flat octagon for all they knew) but I'm not going to go into that yet. We've had computers for less than a century, powered flight for just over a century and of course our amazing horseless carriages. Genetics, electricity, nuclear-bombs, toaster-strudel, the world is in the palm of our hands! And it didn't take us too long did it?

Reality-check, we're still primitives. In the great scheme of things this technology is a mere blip on the historical radar. We've got an awful long way to go before we're able to dissect and understand the mysteries of the universe. We haven't even put a man on Mars yet, let alone left our solar system to find out what exactly is out there. How can it be that we have suddenly, so recently, become so arrogant as to believe we know more than we really do? The Laws of Science are written by man, based on our understanding of how things work. They are theories that, while prove true today, may be debunked by another amazing discovery tomorrow. Which leads onto my next point.

Name this quote "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". Arthur C Clarke, physicist and author, smart fellow. It also hilights the point I'm making. Our understanding of the universe is peerless only amongst ourselves. We are not as smart as we think we are. Just as fire wowed the neanderthals, what would it take to wow us? What would make our jaws drop and our minds boggle? Well, any sufficiently advanced technology of course. And what is technology after-all? Man-made machines. The concept of technology is a human concept, a concept that may, in other parts of the universe, not even exist, replaced by something even more advanced than that, so advanced that we cannot comprehend it. Not surprising really as we mammals only use 10% of our brains.

So where am I going with this? Simple really, take yourself off of your high-horse, you, and the human race, is not as smart as it thinks it is. Now, open your mind a little, and let's explore some possibilities.



The definition of a God. Let us turn to the good book.

Wikipedia.

"God most commonly refers to the deity worshipped by followers of monotheistic and monolatrist religions, whom they believe to be the creator and ruler of the universe. Theologians have ascribed a variety of attributes to the various conceptions of God. The most common among these include omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, perfect goodness, divine simplicity, and eternal and necessary existence. God has also been conceived as being incorporeal, a personal being, the source of all moral obligation, and the "greatest conceivable existent"

Hmm, a tall order one might think. Could such a being exist? Some argue that logically, he could not, however, there is very little logic in denying the possibility that a being or beings of such power and advancement exist that they could indeed, be considered 'God' within our definition. That's not to say that God is a small green alien with a flying saucer and a phaser though that would give some of the overzealous fundamentalists something to sweat over, much to our amusement. But what is this God? A creator? Sure, we create. We create technology, we're getting to the stage of being able to create life in one form or another, using the basic building blocks of nature. Could it not be surmised therefore that it is entirely within the realms of possibility that someone or something created those building blocks? Like a programmer creates a new program, someone must have also created the coding language in which he created it. We scramble for answers. We come up with theories. Some believe in the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. Some believe a man in the sky created it everything in 6 days and then mooched around on the 7th. Which is valid?

Neither, and both. They attempt to apply meaning to something where meaning may, or may not exist. Creationism and the Big Bang are in that sense, as bad as each other. They are both merely attempts for us to explain the unexplainable. The Big Bang contradicts our laws of physics (something most catalyse an explosion, therefore something must have been there in the first place, where did that come from, at which point your brain melts). The Creation Story contradicts our laws of physics (Same reasons, who created God after all?). Everything we've so far managed to come up with, from the sublime to the ridiculous, the complex to the simplistic, it's an exercise in desperate straw-clutching. At the end of the day, we don't know jack.

And that's ok. Someone once said that the journey matters more than the destination, it's not the winning, it's the taking part, at least ya tried sport. These explanations of where it all comes from, be they ancient or modern all boil down to the same need. To know. Who'd have thunk it, we've got brains for a reason, and they rather like being used. Those neurons like to be fired, the little grey matter likes a little exercise every once in a while. Just as the Creation Story was a way to explain an unexplainable concept, so is the Big Bang theory. If one were to compare the human mind to a computer, try feeding the Big Bang theory to the medieval man, and it's like trying to shove Bioshock into a Commodore Vic20. Good luck. And what will our children's children's children's grandchildren's children think of our Big Bang theory? My money's on exactly the same thing.

So what am I trying to tell you, stop asking questions, stop looking for answers and just believe whatever the hell suits ya? Absolutely not. Believe whatever suits you, but question it, never stop thinking, never stop asking or learning. In this day and age it seems people are way too willing to believe, or not believe. Belief, or non-belief should be a life-long arduous process and it should end involuntarily, when you fall over dead. Someone (there's a lot of talkative someone's aren't there?) once said 'Never stop believing', I say, "Never stop asking yourself what you believe, and why".

It's time to criticize, so let me load port and starboard cannon and fire a volley at both atheists and theists alike. Believing, or not believing, does not make you intelligent. Smart people do not come to a conclusion on the basis of insubstantial evidence. Smart people do not mindlessly attack other people's beliefs just because they don't conform to their own. Smart people do not assume that their own rigid, poorly formed definitions of logic and faith, reason and belief are mutually exclusive and that if one exists, the other cannot. Smart people think outside the box, not pick fights with those poor souls trapped in it.

What makes you intelligent, is knowing why you believe what you believe. Knowing that you are but one mind, and knowing that at any time you could be proven wrong, only for that person to be proven wrong ad infinitum as we as a race advance.

I suppose you're waiting for my personal beliefs, waiting for this to be some kind of sermon, preaching why my God is better than your God, or non-God. You'll be waiting a long time, because it's not coming. My personal beliefs are just that, personal, they're mine, they belong to me. You cannot take them away from me, only I can. What I can give you though, are my opinions.

Right now shots are being fired. They're not physical shots, they're bullets and shells of ignorance and bigottry. And it's no one-sided battle let me tell you that much. Factionalized camps everywhere you can imagine. Atheists, Theists, Satanists, Christians, Republicans, Democrats, Capitalists, Communists, every group you can imagine, all shouting 'Your God/Non-God sucks, mine is better!'. These days, the internet's become their battleground. So much for sharing knowledge, we're sharing ignorance.

The bigottry and the condemnation has to stop. The sad thing is, I'm having to condemn the condemners. Isn't it lowsy how you generally have to be a hypocrite in order to make a point these days? Food for thought. We can look at the extremes and see the simplistic, secular vs sacred, trend-atheists vs fundamentalist evangelical christians, the most common stereotypes. But in reality, it's so much more complicated than that. It's this stereotyping and narrow-minded attitude that prevents us as a race from achieving the greatness we can. I could make as many decrees as I wanted till I was blue in the face, and I'm going to just to let off a little steam mind you,

"Trend-atheist Digg users, shove your agendas where the sun don't shine, refusing the possibility of a supreme-being does not make you a genius or a radical thinker, it makes you a bloody sheep hiding behind a cloak of anonymity"

"Evangelical Fundamentalist morons, get your overly simplistic, judgmental, dogmatic Crayola God out of my face, you have about as much understanding of the universe as a wet lettuce. That does not make you holy, pure, or guaranteed a private booth at the big game in the sky, it makes you a bloody sheep hiding behind a cloak of propaganda that you only believe because you're told to"

Wow, that feels good, I can understand why you internet-bound condemners like it so much. Gives you that warm, fuzzy feeling doesn't it? What, I'm not allowed to indulge in such a guilty pleasure every once in a while? Play fair Wink

Where's my conclusion? Hell if I know. Did you have the mistaken impression this was some carefully constructed plea for tolerance? Absolutely not, it's an angry slap in the face to my peers. Wake the hell up and use your brain, because my God/Non-god/Explosion/Man-in-the-sky/Vic20 gave you it for a reason.

TB.

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

^^^^edit: Holy poo poo dude this is a cool thread about the hype for an awesome game coming out, not some place to repost a massive blog entry from TB.


turnways posted:

Fine, fine, you want a release date?

I cave. April 21st. There you go.

That is gonna be the best birthday present ever.

Evil Kit fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Apr 7, 2015

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.
goddammit now there is The TB post in the kf2 thread. I hope you're proud of yourselves for promoting his stream, but also acknowledging that he exists. this is what happens when you acknowledge TB's existence <:mad:>

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eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

SaffronKit posted:

^^^^edit: Holy poo poo dude this is a cool thread about the hype for an awesome game coming out, not some place to repost a massive blog entry from TB.


That is gonna be the best birthday present ever.

im sorry i forgot we were in a posting drought and would soon run out of posts, please forgive me

but yea i :justpost:, you should think about that too

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