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@DraftExpress: New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax Teams are basically going to be able to sign whoever they want.
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Apr 17, 2015 22:40
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morestuff posted:@DraftExpress: New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax hooray okc is going to be able to keep all of its talent
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Apr 17, 2015 22:44
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morestuff posted:@DraftExpress: New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax Daryl Morey is going to show up to half the NBA's house with an ipad in the summer of 2016! quote:He's not even top two worst, but Capela and Dorsey aren't going to get much playoff run, right? edit: Those big salary cap hops will strongly benefit teams with players who are on max contracts that were recently signed. Obvious examples are Houston, Golden State, Washington. G-Hawk fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Apr 17, 2015 22:50
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Yeah, I really hope the Bulls don't decide to be cute and try and offer Jimmy Butler less than the max immediately. Because If I'm Jimmy I seriously consider betting one more year playing on the Qualifying Offer and hitting free agency when that salary cap goes up and then suddenly I'm making Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant money.
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Apr 17, 2015 22:51
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EvanTH posted:Here's something cool I seen said on reddit and checked out myself to see they weren't lying, PER was built to prove AD is the GOAT That's the reason he's probably the greatest teenage player ever. Artic Puma posted:How do other people feel about Westbrook being considered the scoring champ even though Curry and Harden both scored more points than him, Harden by a huge amount? It just seems stupid to me to base it on who has the highest PPG. Totals > PPG IMO. And of course just looking at points doesn't take quality into account. Curry and Harden were head and shoulders above all the other players this year in that regard. Curry scored more points, shoot 3P shots 15% higher, 2P shots 7% higher and FTs 8% higher and still trailed Westbrook in PPG. That's why I prefer to look at things like ORtg, TS% and NP. alansmithee posted:Honestly if you're just looking at peak Mark Price may have been better. Although that admittedly heavily discounts the fact that Stockton's "peak" was like 15 years or something. It's close. Mark Price's peak 1989 scoring season is just under Stockton's '95 and '97 seasons. Stockton never did have an amazing scoring season and no PG really has to this point. alansmithee posted:I don't think most people care since the scoring champ has always been PPG. Before 1970 they did use total points rather than PPG.
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Apr 17, 2015 22:51
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Covington is big and can shoot threes. I don't know if he can play defense. He does not finish well at all near the hoop. He does not block shots. He gets some steals. He is not a primary ball handler. He is a good nba player who would play for most teams in the league On he has another three years on his K for like 1 million per
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Apr 17, 2015 22:55
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The Glumslinger posted:I was just looking at thread from that draft recently, and it was hilarious how many people were defending that pick The worst pick of that draft has to be Jonny Flynn, because he wasn't projected to go as highly as he went, and even just looking at point guards, the following guys were picked after he went 6th: (7) Stephen Curry (as everyone knows, but also...) (10) Brandon Jennings (17) Jrue Holiday (18) Ty Lawson (drafted by the Wolves and traded) (19) Jeff Teague (21) Darren Collison (42) Patrick Beverley
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Apr 17, 2015 22:58
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In the Summer of 2016, Golden State could have Curry, Thompson, Igoudoula, and Bogut under contract with 40 million in salary cap room still 
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Apr 17, 2015 22:58
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quote:Ira Winderman Whelp, maybe that Heat pick for the 76ers will be decent afterall.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:00
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G-Hawk posted:In the Summer of 2016, Golden State could have Curry, Thompson, Igoudoula, and Bogut under contract with 40 million in salary cap room still You mean those guys with Green and 25 million of cap room.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:03
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Papercut posted:You mean those guys with Green and 25 million of cap room. They better not try and get cute with Green's next contract.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:07
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euphronius posted:Covington is big and can shoot threes. I don't know if he can play defense. He does not finish well at all near the hoop. He does not block shots. He gets some steals. He is not a primary ball handler. I swear he actually blocked 1-2 shots per game in the d-league. I always reckoned he'd end up in a rotation somewhere and overrated by internet sports fans on defense because he is quite clever at using his wingspan if nothing else
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Apr 17, 2015 23:08
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That's too bad for the 76ers,although trying to integrate Embiid, Saric, this year's first pick and however many 2nd rounders could have been a big headache for one year. G-Hawk posted:In the Summer of 2016, Golden State could have Curry, Thompson, Igoudoula, and Bogut under contract with 40 million in salary cap room still He was always going to opt out, that's why he was traded. They wouldn't have traded for him if they hadn't gotten the wink and nod. Although the same was true for Love, the mysterious las vegas meeting which lead to the inclusion of Wiggins, and he still might not re-sign.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:12
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There was a lot of debate over whether the sixers were actually decent at D or whether teams went up by 20 and stopped trying.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:12
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Saric was always two years so it's not really news.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:13
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morestuff posted:No lottery or playoff format changes were announced at the Board of Governors meeting today, but: I'd like to see a pure lottery. I know there were a lot of complaints about the Cavaliers winning three of the last four lotteries (1 in 1,924 shot) but it would've been a lot less likely for that to happen in a pure lottery (1 in 27,931 shot). PS They should scrap the concept of conferences in the playoffs. Spurs vs. Clippers in R1 is horse pucky. Stealth Tiger posted:I don't really get why they decided to do PPG in the first place, did players back in the day get less DNPs or something, making it less significant of a difference? I'm not sure. If you look at sports stats there's always been a conflict over totals and rate stats. Someone probably thought total points/total games was more advanced than just total points. FGAs and FTAs were a triviality back in the early days of the NBA.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:14
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The conference think will likely not happen for awhile because there is no incentive for Eastern Conference teams to vote for it. Think you need 20 yes votes to make a change. My lottery change is to just weigh it a little less. Don't think there should be such a huge gap between the 6th worst team and the worst team in terms of odds. They both suck.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:50
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morestuff posted:@DraftExpress: New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax  good lord have mercy
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Apr 17, 2015 23:51
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The Glumslinger posted:I was just looking at thread from that draft recently, and it was hilarious how many people were defending that pick I talked myself into it because the the draft seemed weak at the time so why not get a role player who could be a really good interior defender. Of course the draft turned out way better than anyone could honestly say they foresaw. Of course Thabeet wasn't that but it's one of those "if you squint really hard it kind of looks like this" things.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:52
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Jack's Flow posted:They better not try and get cute with Green's next contract. They won't. He'll get max and they'll eat a luxury tax for one year before David Lee's max deal expires.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:55
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Every team that's signed good players to high but non max max deals is so happy
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Apr 17, 2015 23:56
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The Glumslinger posted:I was just looking at thread from that draft recently, and it was hilarious how many people were defending that pick We really ought to have a thread where we dig through drafts and make fun of old posts. I believe my summary of the Rockets 2012 draft was Lamb > White > Jones.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:57
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Lebron is going to make 1 billion dollars
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Apr 17, 2015 23:58
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He should just get a percentage of Cleveland's Gdp
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Apr 17, 2015 23:58
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Dejan Bimble posted:Every team that's signed good players to high but non max max deals is so happy This is going to be the weirdest offseason, I wonder if guys like Dragic get max deals since even those could be a steal in a few years.
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Apr 17, 2015 23:59
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Apr 18, 2015 00:17
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I think every team tweeted those images changed for their own team. It's going to be awesome when the ones that are actually made this year have fleur de lis all over them.
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Apr 18, 2015 00:27
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I think they're the actual plans for the championship rings. Meaning somebody devoted actual time towards designing a championship ring for the NBA champion Brooklyn Nets
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Apr 18, 2015 00:29
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Dejan Bimble posted:Every team that's signed good players to high but non max max deals is so happy Max deals don't go up with the cap unless they haven't kicked in yet. Next year's raise won't be all that much. I mean, I agree with you they are happy, but I think a lot of teams that grabbed max free agents are also happy.
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Apr 18, 2015 00:30
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i cant wait to snuff out the mavericks even though we're 0-2 all time vs the mavs in the playoffs and rockets have one series win since 1998 and everyone is hurt or dead and we rely on a FT dude to get playoff foul calls. mavs deserve to lose since they stole our 2005 series with Tim Donaghy and Mark Cuban cheating but no one remembers that one because he also cheated the Lakers/Kings series which everyone thought was cooler except real texas bball fans, home grown corn fed mashed potatoe country fried steak growing potato farming irish german beer growing potato chomping potato growing country folk
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Apr 18, 2015 00:30
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anne frank fanfic posted:i cant wait to snuff out the mavericks even though we're 0-2 all time vs the mavs in the playoffs and rockets have one series win since 1998 and everyone is hurt or dead and we rely on a FT dude to get playoff foul calls. mavs deserve to lose since they stole our 2005 series with Tim Donaghy and Mark Cuban cheating but no one remembers that one because he also cheated the Lakers/Kings series which everyone thought was cooler except real texas bball fans, home grown corn fed mashed potatoe country fried steak growing potato farming irish german beer growing potato chomping potato growing country folk never change
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Apr 18, 2015 00:43
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anne frank fanfic posted:i cant wait to snuff out the mavericks even though we're 0-2 all time vs the mavs in the playoffs and rockets have one series win since 1998 and everyone is hurt or dead and we rely on a FT dude to get playoff foul calls. mavs deserve to lose since they stole our 2005 series with Tim Donaghy and Mark Cuban cheating but no one remembers that one because he also cheated the Lakers/Kings series which everyone thought was cooler except real texas bball fans, home grown corn fed mashed potatoe country fried steak growing potato farming irish german beer growing potato chomping potato growing country folk 100% agree unironically
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Apr 18, 2015 00:44
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Kibner posted:I think every team tweeted those images changed for their own team. I still think the Fluer de Bee was the best logo
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Apr 18, 2015 00:45
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anne frank fanfic posted:i cant wait to snuff out the mavericks even though we're 0-2 all time vs the mavs in the playoffs and rockets have one series win since 1998 and everyone is hurt or dead and we rely on a FT dude to get playoff foul calls. mavs deserve to lose since they stole our 2005 series with Tim Donaghy and Mark Cuban cheating but no one remembers that one because he also cheated the Lakers/Kings series which everyone thought was cooler except real texas bball fans, home grown corn fed mashed potatoe country fried steak growing potato farming irish german beer growing potato chomping potato growing country folk The Mavs are Cool, and Good.
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Apr 18, 2015 00:51
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Lockback posted:Max deals don't go up with the cap unless they haven't kicked in yet. Next year's raise won't be all that much.
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Apr 18, 2015 00:52
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Dejan Bimble posted:Does that mean that the 30% of cap in a max deal is locked in at signing? It doesn't change with the cap? I always saw the % and assumed it did. Yup, the 30% is just the first year, then the raises are set to a specific amount. The Klay Thompson thing was unique in that it was "Probably" a max contract, but that was because the first year was a dollar amount and not the max amount. The raises after the first would be the same % regardless if the cap increased, stayed the same, or shrunk.
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Apr 18, 2015 01:02
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Dejan Bimble posted:Does that mean that the 30% of cap in a max deal is locked in at signing? It doesn't change with the cap? I always saw the % and assumed it did. Right, doesn't go up with the cap. That's why everybody wants to be a free agent when the cap goes up. Dexo posted:
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Apr 18, 2015 01:05
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Lockback posted:Yup, the 30% is just the first year, then the raises are set to a specific amount. The Klay Thompson thing was unique in that it was "Probably" a max contract, but that was because the first year was a dollar amount and not the max amount. The raises after the first would be the same % regardless if the cap increased, stayed the same, or shrunk. I thought the difference in Klay's contract was that it was the dollar amount of a max, but fixed for the duration (with no raises). Unless that's what you were trying to say. Also isn't the max also based on years in the league/your last contract?
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Apr 18, 2015 01:07
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alansmithee posted:I thought the difference in Klay's contract was that it was the dollar amount of a max, but fixed for the duration (with no raises). Unless that's what you were trying to say. No, it raises. http://hoopshype.com/salaries/golden_state.htm What was unique is instead of saying "His first year is the maximum amount" it says "his first year is 15 mil, which is probably the max amount". If the cap increased a lot, he'd not get as big of a first year. If the cap didn't jump or contracted for some reason, NBA rules would force it down to the max. So it was giving up, potentially, some money.
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The Glumslinger posted:I still think the Fluer de Bee was the best logo You will find no disagreement here. They tried to strike lightning twice, but the bird de lis isn't nearly as cool. Way too angry looking.
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