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Dejan Bimble posted:Over the past 12 years, when lower seeds won their regular season series against opponents they faced in the playoffs, the lower seeds won 11 of 20 first round sequels. In contrast, underdogs that split their season series were 7-15 and those that lost were 5-49. Do we count Memphis as a lower seed even though they have a better record (and HCA) than Portland
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NickRoweFillea posted:6th man like Lou Will Good
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roundmidnight posted:Is this the same metric that dubbed Greivis Vasquez one of the best defensive players in the league because the guy he was defending scored when he was nowhere near him (ie had blown by him and left him in the dust)? No that's this http://www.sloansportsconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/SSAC15-RP-Finalist-Counterpoints2.pdf
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Apr 20, 2015 18:03
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IcePhoenix posted:Do we count Memphis as a lower seed even though they have a better record (and HCA) than Portland Yes  That's why that statistic is utterly misleading
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Apr 20, 2015 18:04
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Today I learned that the latest Fast & Furious movie broke $1 billion worldwide after just 17 days. Crazy. Basketball related: go Warriors etc.
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Apr 20, 2015 18:34
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Horford will probably play game two but won't be 100 percent (is he ever) and Millsap still has a nagging injury. Hopefully this series wraps soon so they can get some rest.
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Apr 20, 2015 18:43
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If the Hawks don't sweep the Nets, they don't deserve to rest. Hell, that game yesterday should have been over twice and the starters should have been sitting halfway through the 4th.
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Apr 20, 2015 19:01
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N: @ESPNSteinLine 11m11 minutes ago Pelicans are officially listing both Tyreke Evans (knee) and Jrue Holiday (leg) as questionable for tonight's Game 2 at Golden State V: Norris Cole to save the day
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Apr 20, 2015 19:07
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Spacebump posted:N: The weird thing is, I think he'll do a good job. The first round of the playoffs is nothing to a guy that has been in the Finals every year of his career. A report surfaced that if Cole had played better, the Heat were going to extend him an offer midseason. Instead he played himself into being traded for nothing.
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Apr 20, 2015 19:11
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Spacebump posted:N: This means more TTTTTTT-TTT----Tuh-tuh-tuh-tuh TONEY DOUGLAS 
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Apr 20, 2015 19:14
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N: @espn_macmahon Chandler Parsons and Devin Harris did not practice today. Both will be listed as questionable for Game 2. V: Incoming Felton game changer minutes https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/590224061197725696
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Apr 20, 2015 20:00
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I want Parsons to play and be terrible like he was against the Blazers last year Mavs fans are just going to use these injuries as an excuse instead of admitting their team isn't as good as they think 
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Apr 20, 2015 20:06
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PantsFreeZone posted:If the Hawks don't sweep the Nets, they don't deserve to rest. Hell, that game yesterday should have been over twice and the starters should have been sitting halfway through the 4th. I think there was some truth in what the pregame folks were saying. Prior to the playoffs, they were resting all their top players, and you can't just turn it off and back on again. Sometimes it'll throw players completely off and the play makers are no longer able to make plays anymore because they've fallen out of the groove.
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Intruder posted:I want Parsons to play and be terrible like he was against the Blazers last year Never forget who changed the defense on the most important play last year. http://i.mobypicture.com/user/TomMartinKATC/view/16856780
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Apr 20, 2015 20:20
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Dejan Bimble posted:Over the past 12 years, when lower seeds won their regular season series against opponents they faced in the playoffs, the lower seeds won 11 of 20 first round sequels. In contrast, underdogs that split their season series were 7-15 and those that lost were 5-49. What's the breakdown of those 20 examples, is it 4v5 and 3v6 heavy where the difference in regular season records was a handful of games at most and thus a near-even split is quite in line with expectations? I have to admit that 23 of 96 series ending in the #5-#8 seed winning is a higher % than I would have expected, definitely would have lost a bet by taking the under on a 20% rate.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:
Observations re: Baynes 1. This is the guy that Popp has held out of practice on multiple occasions for fear that he would hurt Duncan/Splitter. 2. The first page of Google searches for his name includes links titled "Is Aron Baynes the New Bill Laimbeer?" 3. He's Australian and they're crazy fuckers as a rule. Seriously, read Bogut's interview from earlier this month. Growing up there is like some mix of Lord of the Flies and Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome. Only the strong and psychotic survive. The point I'm making is that, considering the above and Blake Griffin's propensity to get attacked, we could see some grievous bodily harm on the court during the next game.
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 Lou "last minutes murdera" Williams sixth man of the year  I was hopin Masai might say gently caress YA LOU in his acceptance speech  edit:report is that DeMar thinks Lou is the coolest guy he knows Elrobot fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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Apr 20, 2015 20:43
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Zogo posted:I suppose the rejoinder to that would be to question whether or not the Heat would've even been in the finals if not for the stilted conference brackets. The East is absolutely terrible I just think people overrate the chances of Lebron losing any hero ball contest in a series where he has better help than Mo Williams. So if the Heat ran into Dallas/SAS a lot then they get eliminated before the finals, but I don't see potential series against Houston, Memphis and Portland as big roadblocks for any of those Heat teams that made the finals, and the OKC matchup was a favorable matchup for them.
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Apr 20, 2015 20:47
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Observations re: Baynes
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Intruder posted:Mavs fans are just going to use these injuries as an excuse instead of admitting their team isn't as good as they think Mavs fans aren't under the delusion that their team is the second best in the West with a strong title shot, so this isn't really necessary. straight up brolic posted:dude matt barnes humiliated and man handled him A lot has been said about how tough Baynes is but I've never really seen it. He's always struck me as more uncoordinated nice guy. If he had a mean streak Barnes wouldn't have thrown him in to the photogs.
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straight up brolic posted:dude matt barnes humiliated and man handled him That's my point. A humiliated man is a dangerous man 
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Lasagna Pilot posted:So if the Heat ran into Dallas/SAS a lot then they get eliminated before the finals, but I don't see potential series against Houston, Memphis and Portland as big roadblocks for any of those Heat teams that made the finals, and the OKC matchup was a favorable matchup for them. Those Heat teams seemed to come together for the finals, really. Celtics and Pacers both took them to 7 different years.
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straight up brolic posted:dude matt barnes humiliated and man handled him Pretty sure he tripped because he's a clumsy oaf but this was still really funny.
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We can't make fun of any delusions while there is a guy talking about how the Bucks belong in the playoffs more than the Thunder and that this year of the East being bad is a fluke.
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Elrobot posted:
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The East being complete and utter garbage has been true long enough that it's definitely not a fluke, but I guess you could say that it's abnormally bad even by those standards this year. Utah had like the fifth worst record in the West and would have made the playoffs in the East (and presented a significantly more difficult series than 3 or 4 East playoff teams). It probably won't be quite that bad again. lol at the Bucks thing though
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Rick posted:We can't make fun of any delusions while there is a guy talking about how the Bucks belong in the playoffs more than the Thunder and that this year of the East being bad is a fluke. Don't forget Brad Stevens coach of the year guy.
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Strawberry Panda posted:Don't forget Brad Stevens coach of the year guy. I mean I don't think he actually should but I can at least sort of kind of see how you would arrive at that conclusion. Making the playoffs in the East is not really meaningful in a general sense but it was a lot better than that horrendous roster should have been able to do. He's getting a lot of minutes out of fringe d-league dudes. And just from an xs and os standpoint he seems like a really really good in game coach.
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Apr 20, 2015 21:07
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If the 9th best west team wanted to be in the playoffs so bad, they shouldn't have lost to the 9th best east team at the end of the season.
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Having the actual best teams in the playoffs would help the bad east teams get better. Instead of being knocked out in the first round, they'd get a good draft pick.
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I thought the Bucks were at least an entertaining team to watch with their youth and length and Giannis thing going on? Is it necessarily a terrible thing that they made the playoffs over the Thunder? I mean Russ is super fun to watch too, but it's not like a team like OKC often misses the playoffs, and at least it wasn't Indiana taking their spot.
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The B_36 posted:I thought the Bucks were at least an entertaining team to watch with their youth and length and Giannis thing going on? Is it necessarily a terrible thing that they made the playoffs over the Thunder? I mean Russ is super fun to watch too, but it's not like a team like OKC often misses the playoffs, and at least it wasn't Indiana taking their spot. The Bucks are the six seed
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The B_36 posted:I thought the Bucks were at least an entertaining team to watch with their youth and length and Giannis thing going on? Their offense is loving horrible aside from the one time a game Giannis does something neat, especially since they traded Brandon Knight.
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How do y'all think the perception of the Clippers would change if they beat SA, either in a closely contested series or in a decisive way? Is getting past the Spurs indicative of them being a legitimate contender or are the Warriors still the big dogs in the West? Truthfully I wouldn't care if we win or not as long as Blake can dunk on Baynes like that over and over and over. 
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Philip Rivers posted:How do y'all think the perception of the Clippers would change if they beat SA, either in a closely contested series or in a decisive way? Is getting past the Spurs indicative of them being a legitimate contender or are the Warriors still the big dogs in the West? I think it would be impressive, and I guess they'd be considered a contender. Still think it's tough for them because they just have no bench. It's still a team that has to throw out Austin Rivers and Big Baby for over 10 minutes a night. Don't think you can do that against a team like the Warriors in a 7-game series.
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Niwrad posted:I think it would be impressive, and I guess they'd be considered a contender. Still think it's tough for them because they just have no bench. It's still a team that has to throw out Austin Rivers and Big Baby for over 10 minutes a night. Don't think you can do that against a team like the Warriors in a 7-game series. But that's the same narrative right now with how much deeper the Spurs are. I feel like a team like the Clippers is only gonna look better in the playoffs playing shallower rotations with more minutes for the starters.
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If the Warriors didn't exist, I would say the Clippers might have a chance out of the West. But the Warriors do exist, and they are insanely strong during the few moments that the Clippers bench Blake and Chris. The fact that they can throw Klay and Iggy on CP3 without being gassed is a strong advantage.
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I see the defense as the main problem there. Really Jordan/Griffin probably have a better chance of chasing the Spurs around than getting posted up by Gasol/ZBo.
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@ArashMarkazi · 6m 6 minutes ago As Doc pushes DeAndre for Defensive Player of the Year, he said he had no idea who was up for 6th Man of the Year. Um, Jamal Crawford was. @ArashMarkazi · 5m 5 minutes ago Doc on 6th Man of the Year: "I'm clueless. Did the award come out already? Who won? I couldn't even tell you." GM Doc must not care about Crawford as much as Jordan. Rightfully so I guess since Crawford has a team option and Jordan is a free agent. This year is one of the more boring 6th man of the year races I've seen in a while. I didn't watch much Lou Williams. Was he a lot better than Thomas or did being traded ruin it for him? Spacebump fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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