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Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
For reference we do have plastic bags here in Canada. Some chains are charging 10 cents a bag as a "green" initiative and the city of Toronto was considering a ban a few years back but never passed it.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

JacquelineDempsey posted:

"Hmm, I'm going to ask the dragons for a million dollars. What should I wear?"

Skip to 7:30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dBOlVnnvkQ

(side note: how come sometimes SA posts the URL, and sometimes embeds? And if it embeds with the "video type" code, how do you alter that to make it go to the proper time?)

If you're on chrome, you can do "paste as plain text" and it'll include the timestamp in the tag and it becomes a URL link. Otherwise SA processes it as a youtube link and strips the timestamp.

Also this video is amazing :haw:

Zaphod42 has a new favorite as of 07:35 on Mar 23, 2015

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



This starts out pretty straightforward, I figure they're going to demo some new & improved gadget to speed up getting the meat from a lobster or something. Then it really takes a turn for the weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nqQ4wPS9wg&t=26m55s

That was NOT the product I expected them to be pitching.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

JacquelineDempsey posted:

This starts out pretty straightforward, I figure they're going to demo some new & improved gadget to speed up getting the meat from a lobster or something. Then it really takes a turn for the weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nqQ4wPS9wg&t=26m55s

That was NOT the product I expected them to be pitching.

What in the good goddamn?

I barely even see what could be considered a human shape in that poo poo.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

What in the good goddamn?

I barely even see what could be considered a human shape in that poo poo.

Well, I don't think she actually sees the shape there. It seems to be just some kind of fishermen folk name that she trademarked.

Still, insane idea for a business.

Eggbeater Jesus
Sep 21, 2008

Add a dab of lavender to milk. Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it.
I love how so many of these cottage business people tell the investors (and with pride) that their sales are in the thousands of dollars. Like that's a point in their favor when they're trying to convince them that their business is worth half a million or more :psyduck:

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



Looking at this still close-up, I can maaaaybe get where they see Mary in it:

http://www.lobstermary.com/

Still, I'd love to know who first picked apart a lobster stomach, squeezed out its contents, and said "It's the Blessed Virgin!"

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
That is the best website I've seen in years.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.
LOBSTER MARY IS A SMALL BONE FOUND

INSIDE OF THE LOBSTER.

THIS GUARDED SECRET HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.


ok, I take it back, she might be legit crazy

Komojo
Jun 30, 2007

https://youtu.be/I12l3NGCBT8?t=9m4s
Crazy guy tries to reinvent hockey.

https://youtu.be/cbAHbm5yf9k?t=23m19s
This woman wants to make a toy to help parents teach their children how to take a bath. See if you can spot the flaw in her design...

Chinaman7000
Nov 28, 2003

I like how nice almost all of them were about the lobster mary. Kinda nice they treated the old couple that way despite the craziness. Unlike crazy hockey guy, who is actual crazy. I enjoyed him interrupting Robert and saying "ok, you're out!"

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

It's how her species communicates

I find the relationship between the sharks/dragons really interesting. For the first few seasons Cuban was on, Robert seemed to really, really dislike him. Robert seems kind of jealous. That seems to have mellowed some. It doesn't seem like Robert and Kevin would get along either, but I don't think they've had much conflict. The women really don't like Kevin most of the time, but they still want to go in on deals with him.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Grem posted:

I find the relationship between the sharks/dragons really interesting. For the first few seasons Cuban was on, Robert seemed to really, really dislike him. Robert seems kind of jealous. That seems to have mellowed some.

Good call on this because that is literally what happened: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-herjavec-hated-cuban-on-shark-tank-2014-10

quote:

“Man, I hated Mark for the first two years. And he didn’t like me, either,” Herjavec told Business Insider. “We really get pretty emotional about this stuff.”

Herjavec said tensions had even led him to walk off the set while filming one of the episodes this season. “We have a segment coming up where, I can’t tell you all about it, but Lori, Mark, and I got into an argument," Herjavec said, referring to Lori Greiner, another shark. "And I walked off because the next words out of my mouth were going to be rude and not very nice to them.

"I actually stood up and said, 'Look, my mom told me that if I can't say anything nice, I shouldn't say anything at all, but you're just really pissing me off right now.' And I got up and walked out. And then Mark said, 'I have no problem being rude.'"

Cuban often happens to be at the center of a lot of these arguments because he’s by far the richest among the judges and is capable of stealing some of the deals with higher offers. Some of the contestants also seem to like him better, waiting until he extends an offer, even after the other judges have made an offer earlier than he did.

“Of course we got offended; we hated him. But I hate Kevin when he gets a deal from me, and I hate Lori when she steals a deal from me, too,” Herjavec said of Greiner and his fellow shark Kevin O'Leary.

But Herjavec said things had changed in the latest season of “Shark Tank,” as Cuban realized his investment strategy wasn’t always working.

"I think when Mark came in, it kind of shifted everything because he was so big, and he invested in everything," Herjavec said. "But I think we've all figured out how to deal with Mr. Cuban, and I think Mr. Cuban's lost enough money to realize, 'Oh, I shouldn't invest in everything.'

"And what people have realized, too, is, just because he's super wealthy, it doesn't mean anything for the success or the value of my business."

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Grem posted:

I find the relationship between the sharks/dragons really interesting. For the first few seasons Cuban was on, Robert seemed to really, really dislike him. Robert seems kind of jealous. That seems to have mellowed some. It doesn't seem like Robert and Kevin would get along either, but I don't think they've had much conflict. The women really don't like Kevin most of the time, but they still want to go in on deals with him.

I like it too, I always assumed it was because Cuban is way wealthier than the rest of them (maybe even combined) and Mark sort of filled a similar niche as Robert did. Obviously Robert is more technical, but Mark's original claim to fame was in a similar area, and people think of him as an internet/technology guy, even if he really isn't in the same way that Robert is.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

This pitch for the Home T-shirt took a really weird, mean turn at the end. Daymond came off as pretty dickish here.

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

Don't know if this guy's been up yet but he's pretty great. Here's his first appearance where he just brings a couple of garbage bags of shoddy inventions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAfbYrRpFU&t=1679

He comes back again the next season with a less crazy invention but the conversation after is pretty amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oIpUxWBWt4&t=744

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

GrandpaPants posted:

This pitch for the Home T-shirt took a really weird, mean turn at the end. Daymond came off as pretty dickish here.

"I don't believe you want a deal" is a pretty common phrase on Shark Tank. I get that some people do go on it just for the free publicity, but this guy seemed genuine. Yeah, they came across as pretty dickish.

He's literally in the middle of explaining that he's flexible on the deal and they're like "5%? You're crazy I'm out".

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



RillAkBea posted:


He comes back again the next season with a less crazy invention but the conversation after is pretty amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oIpUxWBWt4&t=744

I know it's a bit of a "you owe me a new keyboard" meme, but I truly just woke my boyfriend up because I was laughing so hard at that one. I tend to crack up when others do, so when Brett lost it, I did too.

In a similar vein, I've never seen Mr. Wonderful laugh so hard as at the end of this pitch (Arlene loses it right off the bat, and rightfully so):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcrAAwq8sJo#t=23m33s

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

JacquelineDempsey posted:

In a similar vein, I've never seen Mr. Wonderful laugh so hard as at the end of this pitch (Arlene loses it right off the bat, and rightfully so):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcrAAwq8sJo#t=23m33s

Oh my god that song.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
"We want to sell information about futures trading."

"How much have you made?"

"I lost over 10k."

Strong argument, can't believe they passed.

MissileWaster
Jul 2, 2007

Remember that one time you totally botched that snap?

RillAkBea posted:

Don't know if this guy's been up yet but he's pretty great. Here's his first appearance where he just brings a couple of garbage bags of shoddy inventions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAfbYrRpFU&t=1679

Holy poo poo this dude is basically Carrot Top.

Also, when did that episode air? You've got Arlene with the crazy frizzy hair sitting on the same stage as Alfred Hitchcock.

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



GrandpaPants posted:

Oh my god that song.

Right? Plus, again with the outfits. "I'll dress like a loligoth, and my schlubby husband will wear a t-shirt. That's sure to impress some high-powered investors that we're good at futures trading!" Hell, I applied yesterday for a dishwasher job at a restaurant and looked more professional.

On a more positive note, so far this is my favorite feel-good segment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XGSEfL6ZSU#t=35m12s

That one lil' dude does a better pitch than half the adults I've watched.

Yeet
Nov 18, 2005

- WE.IGE -
Weird lady wants to build a straw castle for motocross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NErb9MVbD4

Starts at 26:52.

Shalkore
Oct 11, 2007

Welcome to 2012!

Yeet posted:

Weird lady wants to build a straw castle for motocross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NErb9MVbD4

Starts at 26:52.

haha the end of that segment was pretty funny with Jim and Kevin chumming it up

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Yeet posted:

Weird lady wants to build a straw castle for motocross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NErb9MVbD4

Starts at 26:52.

I'm kind of disappointed that Kevin's impending shitstorm that three of the dragons left for turned out to be a pretty mild chastising for a stupid concept. I don't think I've seen the dragons treat a guy more viciously (justifiably so) than that one guy who was selling silver/magic water or whatever it was, but sometimes a blunt reality check is what's needed.

Also seriously a goddamn straw resort.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
A straw resort with only 8 rooms that features motocross heavily as its draw. It's hilarious.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

There's a Shark Tank spinoff called Beyond the Tank coming soon that shows what happens after they make a "deal" on camera. Apparently about 1/3-2/3rds of the deals die in due diligence, so hopefully it isn't too dressed up in reality showiness because more opportunities for cock ups, like that one video with the professor screwing over his students, are what this thread really need.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer
https://youtu.be/gfoJo8p_eiE

Watch from 10 minutes in for some tacky jewellery that even the models wearing it won't defend.

rchandra
Apr 30, 2013


Does this mean they weren't paying the models enough? I thought it was standard that when you have somebody using your product they pretend to like it, or at least remain neutral but optimistic.

I feel like that valuation cheated the viewers of some fighting, Arlene was really ready to rumble and at least Jim would have fought back (maybe Bruce or Kevin too).

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



GrandpaPants posted:

There's a Shark Tank spinoff called Beyond the Tank coming soon that shows what happens after they make a "deal" on camera. Apparently about 1/3-2/3rds of the deals die in due diligence, so hopefully it isn't too dressed up in reality showiness because more opportunities for cock ups, like that one video with the professor screwing over his students, are what this thread really need.

I'd be tickled to watch this if it only focuses on the failures of the inventors. I get irrationally angry when I see follow-ups on DD people who refuse reasonable investment offers or totally change their business model, then smugly come back with success stories after getting free advertising as well as business advice from people who aren't total loons and are all "well, your mistake, dragons!"

Example: I wish I could find it, but there was a couple who'd invented a pretty nifty grooming device for animals. It was sorta like a combo hose & shop-vac that squirted soapy water so it gets under the fur, then immediately sucks the dirty water back out so you don't have to dry the animal off. They brought in their black lab to demonstrate it. The dragons, like myself, were pretty impressed and started asking if they'd been approaching the dog grooming business. Nope, they were dead set on marketing it to horse lovers. Jim even pipes up that he has solid connection to Petco, they could make mad bank selling this to the jillions of places offering dog grooming instead of the niche market of horse fanciers. "Nooo... we really want to focus on the equine market." They didn't get a deal and walked out all pouty.

Later that season, DD did one of their follow-up segments on them. Lo and behold, their business was now a success because they'd turned it into dog grooming service --- exactly what the dragons suggested.
Them: "Sorry dragons, you should have invested in us!" :smug:
Me: :argh:

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Rondette posted:

https://youtu.be/gfoJo8p_eiE

Watch from 10 minutes in for some tacky jewellery that even the models wearing it won't defend.

David: Are you out in the marketplace right now?
Guy: No we're not.
*ominous grim reaper sound effect*

mick ohio
Sep 24, 2007

So I says to Mabel, I says...

JacquelineDempsey posted:

I saw the follow-up to this one she does get a deal with Hallmark Canada and just had to see the original pitch, as my father owns a lovebird. It did not disappoint. This woman is a kook in the best way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7y9iJoM3s

I know this is from the last page, but I love her comment: "God forbid anyone dies, but if you do and you come back as a bird, come to my apartment immediately."

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



I don't know much about software or finances; somehow this woman's pitch was so bad, it actually sucked that little knowledge out my head. Now I have negative knowledge.

She cannot explain it to save her life, and comes out of the gate being snippy at everyone. I can understand getting frustrated, but maybe try NOT being rude to the people you're asking $675K from? She didn't stand a chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiO0RTrQk5o&list=PLmoUfxObLtNlJG4wbAoE0A6ngCfkhxr9O&index=39&t=16m45s

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.
She spent 20 years and 200 000 $ developing this thing, values her business at 3M $, and when asked if she has any sales, replies with "Not yet". That's all I really need to know.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

JacquelineDempsey posted:

I don't know much about software or finances; somehow this woman's pitch was so bad, it actually sucked that little knowledge out my head. Now I have negative knowledge.

She cannot explain it to save her life, and comes out of the gate being snippy at everyone. I can understand getting frustrated, but maybe try NOT being rude to the people you're asking $675K from? She didn't stand a chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiO0RTrQk5o&list=PLmoUfxObLtNlJG4wbAoE0A6ngCfkhxr9O&index=39&t=16m45s

Stupidity of her development and ask aside, I actually felt really bad for this woman. She didn't seem like, batshit crazy like the couple who tried to sell that stock trading software by singing a lovely song about it, but was just someone who got in way over her head and looked like she panicked.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
:v: You're an accountant?
:) Nope
:v: Oh, but you do the books for investors...
:) No
:v: ...... how do I make a return?
:) 1400 programs which is 2% of the firms, another 2% of the firms in Canada, x $2000 per, there's your dollars for year one.
:v: ......

Sounds like she just shut down. Completely failed to explain what her plan was. I imagine there's much more to it that got edited down but if anything was coherent they probably would have included it.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
From that some episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiO0RTrQk5o&t=22m40s

Board game called "Hole" where you throw quarters at... you guessed it... a hole.

But wait, there's a twist :)

Afterwards is another board game based on "the four main races" which is pretty racist, since they define people as primary colors. ("Tell us about a positive encounter you had with a person of the yellow race")

And then later on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiO0RTrQk5o&feature=youtu.be&t=37m33s

Brett and especially Robert get super super butthurt because the pitchers put a picture of Kevin O'Leary on their website and offered some extra equity if he endorsed them.

"Here's what I hear, 'Kevin, I love you, the rest of you suck' ... you know what I find irritating about you guys? ... I find you guys a joke. "

Jesus Christ are you full of yourself, Robert. How DARE somebody appeal to another rich investor on the show and not you too? Like a spoiled little child.

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SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Zaphod42 posted:

Afterwards is another board game based on "the four main races" which is pretty racist, since they define people as primary colors. ("Tell us about a positive encounter you had with a person of the yellow race")
Once I was walking down the street and dropped my wallet, and a little yellow boy returned it to me. I was like, thanks and I'm sorry you have liver failure and will die by the time you're ten. It was a touching exchange.

XCPuff
Nov 26, 2005

FEAR THIS MAN

SLOSifl posted:

Once I was walking down the street and dropped my wallet, and a little yellow boy returned it to me. I was like, thanks and I'm sorry you have liver failure and will die by the time you're ten. It was a touching exchange.

I laughed entirely too hard at this.

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JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



Zaphod42 posted:

I imagine there's much more to it that got edited down but if anything was coherent they probably would have included it.

Eh, I'd guess if there was anything coherent, that would have NOT included it. Makes for better tv.

I'd love to see a completely unedited run on any "episode". I know they must tape multiple episodes a day, but some questions that arise when I binge watch:

1. Whole seasons feature the Dragons wearing the same clothes. Obviously they aren't shooting for 40+ hours straight, so I guess they come in day after day, and wardrobe puts them back into the same suits/outfits? It's something you only notice really when binging and consider that for every 10 minutes you watch, Robert's been wearing that same tie for an hour or more.
2. Whenever there's an alcohol pitch and Arlene appears to be getting hammered, I gotta wonder which pitches came before/after that, and how the editors deal with that.
3. Sometimes the pitchers have a giant prop set-up before they enter, and sometimes they bring smaller props in. Either way, the dragons appear surprised during the "whip the black cloth off" reveal. Yeah, it's "reality" tv and edited to hell, but I wonder how much the dragons know in advance what the pitchers are going to present. Like, the episode with the monster truck. Does the production team actually take them off set, roll in a monster truck, cover it, then bring them back in? Or is that all completely staged?

I'd just like to know how long an actual season shoot takes, and how it works. Are there any tell-all blogs about being a pitcher on DD that anyone knows about? I am strangely fascinated by this show.

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