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Dr. Pangloss
Apr 5, 2014
Ask me about metaphysico-theologo-cosmolo-nigology. I'm here to help!

Dalael posted:

And I am not ashamed. :agesilaus:

That's always been the problem. No self-awareness.

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surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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darth cookie posted:

I will shitcan your application unless it includes a 1000 word essay on the pros and cons of bitcoin.

Bitcoin, a short summary

Pros
Endless laff machine
Steals money from Reddit sovcits
Actual ISK doubler scam spotted once

Cons
Please see my 1000+ shitposts on the subject

Unsure
I got tipped 25 theoretical cents by Roger Ver once for asking him him about his plans to come back to the United States.

RattiRatto
Jun 26, 2014

:gary: :I'd like to borrow $200M
:whatfor:
:gary: :To make vidya game
I just read that ccp porn blog. Great ideas, i guess everyone is getting hyped for that.
Still it seemed something like they have no idea of what they are going to do, so just random ideas thrown there. Still it's great if it is gonna be fully implemented.

Question remains: is this gonna replace POSs or Outposts?

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

RattiRatto posted:

Question remains: is this gonna replace POSs or Outposts?

As far as I can tell, the answer is "yes".

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

RattiRatto posted:

I just read that ccp porn blog. Great ideas, i guess everyone is getting hyped for that.
Still it seemed something like they have no idea of what they are going to do, so just random ideas thrown there. Still it's great if it is gonna be fully implemented.

Question remains: is this gonna replace POSs or Outposts?

CCP is planning to eventually replace all the old structures with these new varieties. This is because the old structures are a nightmarish mess to try and fix, so rather than do that they're just building entirely new structures on the same platform/format used for MTUs and Mobile Depots, and gradually phasing away the old structures entirely. They are apparently doing this gradually so that they can actually work out problems with it and give people a chance to adjust to the changes over time. So if you are currently running a moon empire with POS, at some point you are going to need to transition that to new structures (ones that we haven't actually seen yet).

Assuming that this whole thing actually rolls ahead as advertised. We could always get a half-assed version if the whole thing turns too sticky to push through, I guess.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Got my CCP petition reply (it was re: the 90 days/30bux resub promo I apparently missed over the weekend) and while they won't extend the pricing they apparently will extend the 12th anniversary stuff. I would've expected the reverse, but whatevs.

I used to get my time cards over affiliates like blink for the bonuses, is there anyone left giving out perks? Otherwise can someone pull the affiliate link from the goonswarm wiki for me?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

surebet posted:

Got my CCP petition reply (it was re: the 90 days/30bux resub promo I apparently missed over the weekend) and while they won't extend the pricing they apparently will extend the 12th anniversary stuff. I would've expected the reverse, but whatevs.

I used to get my time cards over affiliates like blink for the bonuses, is there anyone left giving out perks? Otherwise can someone pull the affiliate link from the goonswarm wiki for me?



Giving out perks now is considered RMT, so nobody does it. GSF's link is here: http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/code.php/eve_online/~1115-GFWIKI

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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evilweasel posted:

Giving out perks now is considered RMT, so nobody does it. GSF's link is here: http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/code.php/eve_online/~1115-GFWIKI

Yeah I figured




:catstare:

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week
Solo drakban has an amazon affiliate link somewhere, but it's not stickied anymore.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Add the following tag to the end of the URL from Amazon to get the Goonfleet.com referral link.

code:
?tag=goon0dd-20
Or this URL is the link to a PLEX.

https://www.amazon.com/PLEX-EVE-Online-Instant-Access/dp/B00GDHDEAM?tag=goon0dd-20

Ninogan
Apr 2, 2012

CCP Greyscale has joined Sandbox Interactive as a game designer: https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/10394-Hi-everyone/

:frog:

TrickNixon
Aug 22, 2007

Hey, watch me pull the abuse of executive power out of my hat!

Ninogan posted:

CCP Greyscale has joined Sandbox Interactive as a game designer: https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/10394-Hi-everyone/

:frog:

And stay out!

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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orange juche posted:

Add the following tag to the end of the URL from Amazon to get the Goonfleet.com referral link.

code:
?tag=goon0dd-20
Or this URL is the link to a PLEX.

https://www.amazon.com/PLEX-EVE-Online-Instant-Access/dp/B00GDHDEAM?tag=goon0dd-20

Good to know, next time the core starters go back on sale at $4.99 and I'm feeling the urge to buy 20 disposable alts I'll use that.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Lord British demands your loyalty Greyscale of the Shattered Isle. Kiss the ring.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ninogan posted:

CCP Greyscale has joined Sandbox Interactive as a game designer: https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/10394-Hi-everyone/

:frog:

Did he get fired from Riot or something?

Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥
RIP the future of that open world sandbox MMO.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Ninogan posted:

CCP Greyscale has joined Sandbox Interactive as a game designer: https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/10394-Hi-everyone/

:frog:



That didn't take long.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Unfunny Poster posted:

Did he get fired from Riot or something?

he's so bad he never got an offer

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


PathAsc posted:



That didn't take long.

Crap. That game looks kinda interesting.

Edit: sandbox game company hires a developer famous at his previous job for telling players they are sandboxing wrong.

CainFortea fucked around with this message at 18:09 on May 13, 2015

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Before I forget, anyone want to shoot me their recall link? I've been gone for more than 6 months so that's basically a free PLEX for one of you lucky fuckers. never mind apparently that's not a thing anymore

surebet fucked around with this message at 18:42 on May 13, 2015

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

he's so bad he never got an offer

Really? I recall people saying Soundwave gave him a job offer when Greyscale left CCP.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

CainFortea posted:

Crap. That game looks kinda interesting.

Edit: sandbox game company hires a developer famous at his previous job for telling players they are sandboxing wrong.

He should go develop Wildstar then :v:

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Last random question I swear, anyone know why only one of my accounts had 1.4b of skins in it's redeeming system?

It's not 12th anniversary stuff and I can find devblogs taking about the new systems, just not anything about free stuff.


jfc my google is bad today, apparently I had some painted ships before the switch.

surebet fucked around with this message at 21:28 on May 13, 2015

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke
i dont know much about greyscale other than goons hate him. is he just the martyr for changes a whole bunch of people made? that's how it usually works around here.

otoh, im a fan of albion having played the winter alpha. its a good game and i hope it continues to be so.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Blazing Zero posted:

i dont know much about greyscale other than goons hate him. is he just the martyr for changes a whole bunch of people made? that's how it usually works around here.

otoh, im a fan of albion having played the winter alpha. its a good game and i hope it continues to be so.

He was responsible for designing some of the worst changes. CCP is generally pretty open about whose idea is whose baby.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
Greyscale is a literal bad who hates nullsec and was repeatedly assigned to "fix" it.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Kesper North posted:

Greyscale is a literal bad who hates nullsec and was repeatedly assigned to "fix" it.

What was funny was when Courthouse pointed out to Seagull, Fozzie and Rise during Eve Vegas that Greyscale had never played Eve, and was in charge of sweeping changes to the balance of the game, sure enough he was packing his bags a couple months later.

E: I'm pretty sure the fact that the jump fatigue was deadpanned was key to him leaving CCP. He was batting a straight 0 on his history of balance changes actually being received well.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 21:44 on May 13, 2015

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

he never what

Archimago
Jun 18, 2014

I just want to nom on Merrill
I was reminded today that I never posted this, and even though the moment has passed, I wanted to provide comfort to anyone who may have been experiencing sleepless nights thinking that there was no justice in this world:





That's this guy. (Trigger Warning: Bad Posts)

Thought for a little while he might buy a Titan and join us in ruling the galaxy but alas, I haven't heard from him in quite some time now.

P.S. He paid for all of that by buying PLEX.

Kirs
Dec 5, 2014

Apart from drinking, there is absolutely nothing to do here.

Archimago posted:

He paid for all of that by buying PLEX.

Looks like his gofundme opportunity gone well.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Blazing Zero posted:

i dont know much about greyscale other than goons hate him. is he just the martyr for changes a whole bunch of people made? that's how it usually works around here.

He was identifiably the designer behind a number of lovely things, but it's not like he was some reverse midas.

The problem with greyscale and why we dislike him so much was how he was utterly dismissive of player feedback, including the CSM. With the phoebe jump fatigue design it was like he actively cut them out of the loop. That's just the dumbest thing I can imagine a designer at CCP doing.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
Tackled someone in a rifter :3

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Klyith posted:

The problem with greyscale and why we dislike him so much was how he was utterly dismissive of player feedback, including the CSM. With the phoebe jump fatigue design it was like he actively cut them out of the loop. That's just the dumbest thing I can imagine a designer at CCP doing.

It wasn't "like" he cut them out of the loop. It's very deliberately what he did. Falcon was pissed; I asked him about it in Vegas last year and he actually had to take a moment to soften his response..

Popehoist
Feb 5, 2008

There you go rubens, all your fault! You went on the wrong side of the car!
If I resub will goonswarm commit resources to helping me get my stuff out of 49-U6U?

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004



He also felt that logistics were too easy. He felt that people should do hauler convoys for their alliance's space.

If you go back and read all of his blogs one gets the impression that he felt the best way to have sandboxes content was to make living in null impossible, and null entities just fight out there while living in lowsec.

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

Archimago posted:

I was reminded today that I never posted this, and even though the moment has passed, I wanted to provide comfort to anyone who may have been experiencing sleepless nights thinking that there was no justice in this world:





That's this guy. (Trigger Warning: Bad Posts)

Thought for a little while he might buy a Titan and join us in ruling the galaxy but alas, I haven't heard from him in quite some time now.

P.S. He paid for all of that by buying PLEX.

So that's 15b and two lovely avatars with even shittier non-red texts. :hf:

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

CainFortea posted:

He also felt that logistics were too easy. He felt that people should do hauler convoys for their alliance's space.

If you go back and read all of his blogs one gets the impression that he felt the best way to have sandboxes content was to make living in null impossible, and null entities just fight out there while living in lowsec.

I wonder how much of Grayscale went into the new sov structures before he got the boot. As it stands, with stuff like citadels replacing outposts most, if not all, of an alliances assets are right there in space and vulnerable. If the Imperium did a campaign like Fountain/Delve in fozzie sov there would be literally nothing left of N3's nullsec assets. Their members wouldn't even be able to cash out and sell their stuff. the Imperium would literally have destroyed all non-liquid nullsec assets of a huge amount of players and that would set back more than just N3 because now moving into null is literally risking all your ingame assets.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Ninogan posted:

CCP Greyscale has joined Sandbox Interactive as a game designer: https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/10394-Hi-everyone/

:frog:

His handle is now Monochrome.

What an apt description of that bland and unimaginative little man.

Posters on the Albion forum posted:

Welcome aboard Matt!
I'd like to ask you what forms of fatigue are you looking to implement into this game? Will there be a blanket type of fatigue that restricts the hours we can login, or are you instead planning to implement fatigue on an specific activity level? For instance, will we get to experience waving around a wand fatigue? Or perhaps crossing swords fatigue? What are the specific ideas that are currently evaluated to make the player base get cancer all the while destroying Albion before it is even out of beta?

I appreciate your answers and am looking forward to see your bright ideas implemented on the world of Albion!

and

Posters on the Albion forum posted:


Welcome.

Never played EVE, so I'm curious how Matt 'ruined' the game?


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He gave us all aids :mad:



:laffo:

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Greyscale gets a bit of a bad rap, IMO. But not by much.

He was the mastermind, or at least the figurehead (aka the guy who gets to write the blog post), for a lot of changes in Eve over the years. Some of them were disastrous, certainly:

* Jump fatigue
* Anomaly upgrade rebalancing

But, honestly, quite a few of his changes were net positives for the game:

* Removal of learning skills
* Sensor overlays
* Safe logoff
* Red/yellow/green safety
* Converting POS fuel from discrete components to fuelf blocks
* Removal of wastage from manufacturing
* Conversion of ME/TE from the old infinite scales to the 0-10 scale
* The Noctis

And a few were widely described as disastrous when they first came out, but ended up being positives in the long run as people converted to it:

* Converting shipboard corp hangars into fleet hangars
* Removal of deepsafes
* Alchemy reactions

The real reason that people hated (and continue to hate) Greyscale is that he dismissed feedback. He had a Grand Vision for how Eve should be, and the only persons capable of telling him otherwise were the people in his managerial chain. In many cases, he had a horrendous idea, was told it was horrendous, launched it anyways, and then had to eat crow. Eventually, you get tired of feeding someone your pet birds.

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Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
With Padded Helmets closing we're still feeling the ripples of Jump Fatigue on things we're taking for granted so many months later. It will probably take until new years before it settles.

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