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Potential BFF posted:I figure you don't let someone's war party go out unanswered, no need for violence but everyone keeps tabs on one another. It's also an excuse to flex your muscle and remind the rabble why you're in charge. Actually I feel Joe is also the most powerful of them, he easily has the most defensible fortress / most warriors and from what it seems actually has farms etc. so he probably provides food + water and trades for bullets and gas. The other two guys are also powerful but are essentially vassals of Joe.
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AndyElusive posted:Who runs the slave trade between all the tribes? Blood bags like Max are probably in high demand in the apocalyptic wastelands of George Miller's mind. Seems like everybody pretty much treats humans as consumable resources, so they all probably dabble in it. Or maybe it's a group that we didn't get to see. Or lots of groups. Who knows? Since Furiosa was able to get in contact with the motorcycle people who's names I forget to arrange a deal I'd imagine there's at least some kind of contact with the roving gangs of scavengers and killers. It wouldn't be out of place for them to generally try to take people alive and sell 'em off.
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May 17, 2015 20:14
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So this is incredibly brief and I might be off base, but when that guy with the pierced nipples runs down one of the women, did he have an O-Face going on? It's brief, but he grabs the steering wheel and runs her down, but looks like he REALLY enjoyed it.
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Jack2142 posted:post apocalyptic hellhole ruled by feral sheep. Mad Max 5: Baa Baa Black Sheep 
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DrVenkman posted:So this is incredibly brief and I might be off base, but when that guy with the pierced nipples runs down one of the women, did he have an O-Face going on? It's brief, but he grabs the steering wheel and runs her down, but looks like he REALLY enjoyed it. I wouldn't exactly call it an O-face, but he was certainly into it. I mean, a dude named People Eater is probably not that into respecting the sanctity of life. Hijinks Ensue posted:Mad Max 5: Baa Baa Black Sheep And then both MRAs and PETA were moaning about the film. We're on track for a real life Waterworld with those kind of tears. TerminalBlue fucked around with this message at 20:19 on May 17, 2015 |
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DrVenkman posted:The question, when it's asked, is always posed by women and the answer seems pretty clear that it's men. It's metaphorical and literal. Male imagery in the form of Sun God worship, obelisks, and the Mesopotamian bull are all connected to early civilizing forces and this movie used all of it. The conflict in the movie really becomes a battle for the new world and is more explicitly conveyed by Furiosa's "redemption".
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Baron Bifford posted:Mad Max movies are set in Australia. If the bikes could go for 160 days, they could easily have reached the coast. The Vulvaini were already at the coast.
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May 17, 2015 20:20
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Probably been posted already, if so, I missed it and apologize but it's fun to watch this with the OST playing in the background. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kK-CbqH0k edit: I hope all of this is on the blu-ray or whatever. AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 20:27 on May 17, 2015 |
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May 17, 2015 20:24
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AndyElusive posted:Who runs the slave trade between all the tribes? Blood bags like Max are probably in high demand in the apocalyptic wastelands of George Miller's mind. I think 'organic' stuff in general seems to be Immortan Joe's domain; he controls the water, and he had a very extensive hydroponic system in the Citadel. Citadel exports include Water, crops, human breastmilk, supple virgins, and religious fanaticism. They mentioned Immortan Joe pumps the water up from deep in the ground. That doesn't happen by magic. Either he's got an army of slaves running in giant hamster wheels like the lifts (totally plausible in this future) or he uses guzzoline to power machinery to pump the water. On a mesa like the Citadel you'd have to bring the water up a considerable distance.
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May 17, 2015 20:25
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Furiosa mentions she is seeking 'redemption'. I was thinking about what exactly that means. She got captured when she was young. Her mom died 3 days into captivity. So she had a long, long time to plan her freedom/revenge. She used her status as Imperator and access to the War Rig to plan her escape. The sad twist about this is that to gain Immortan Joe's trust, she would have to have committed many atrocities along the way. Note that for such a sexist, male-centric civilization, Immortan Joe entrusts an enslaved woman to ferry bullets and guzzoline to the Citadel. She obviously had to have pretended to be a part of his agenda, possibly even being responsible for the capture of some of the women. That would give her the incentive to try to liberate them; feeling guilty you are being a part of the oppression, so you risk your own liberty to redeem yourself. Max is trying to escape the haunting feeling he let his wife and kid down, and it is the reason he can't seem to settle down in one place- he can't bear the thought of losing more people he cares about. .
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May 17, 2015 20:30
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Panfilo posted:Somebody upthread suggested all three Warlords were related and I can see this. While a tenuous alliance is mutually beneficial, I can't see why the other two Warlords wouldn't be all "gently caress it, deal with your own Jerry Springer problems, Joe". They certainly don't seem to be very happy about the whole arrangement. You don't see why, given the setting, you wouldn't want to piss off the person who controls both the one known source of fresh water along with an army of fanatics.
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May 17, 2015 20:30
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Is there a theory on what's in the smoking horizon when Furiosa stop and drive off road. Also, how did the war party clear up the rocks after the motorcycle gang blew up the cliff?
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May 17, 2015 20:31
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Assuming that the ocean has been nuked to oblivion, how would the weather recover? Obviously they still get this like rain and fog. We see that as much in the movie. Would the oceans ever be able to hydrate themselves again?
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May 17, 2015 20:32
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whatever7 posted:Is there a theory on what's in the smoking horizon when Furiosa stop and drive off road. Gastown, her original route.
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May 17, 2015 20:32
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whatever7 posted:Is there a theory on what's in the smoking horizon when Furiosa stop and drive off road. I assumed that was the refineries at Gas Town. They must have had some specialist recovery equipment that worked on rocks. We saw the Buzzards vehicles loaded onto a car-trailer, and we saw they had special harpoon-and-anchor vehicles - it's not too much of a stretch to assume they had equipment they could repurpose to clear a few boulders in as many hours. Or maybe Rictus Erectus just cleared a path.
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May 17, 2015 20:35
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whatever7 posted:Is there a theory on what's in the smoking horizon when Furiosa stop and drive off road. You actually see Immortan Joe's gang clearing away the rocks. He is impatient about getting the wives back, so he drives Bigfoot, the only vehicle that can immediately bypass the rocks in pursuit. When the War Rig gets stuck in the bog, it gives the rest of the gangs time to catch up. Keep in mind in the chase back to the Citadel, they are planning on jackknifing the rig in one of the passes to stall their pursuers. That would mean all three gangs had managed to get through by clearing away the rocks. The ironic part is that had Immortan Joe not been such a softie, the other gangs probably would have caught up to the rig. But because he was mourning one of his wives/sons, he held everybody up. Something else that cracked me up, was Rictus Erectus drinking the milk. Total, Got Milk? moment :3
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I gotta say, they really fleshed out these characters well. Even characters that were vaguely hinted at in interviews/promos were depicted in ways that you can understand their relationship. Corpus refers to Immortan Joe as 'dad'. I don't even think Rictus does. Corpus and Rictus have a real Master-Blaster vibe to me. The only way George Miller could've made it cooler would be to have Corpus barking orders at Rictus the whole time while perched on his shoulders. The other two Warlords got well established, even though we saw them briefly. All five of the wives each had their own unique personalities. Nux, and to a lesser extent Slit give you a good sense of what the Warboys' existence is like. One thing I just wondered, why did Immortan Joe drag that old lady in his boudoir along for the chase? What was the point? Did she survive the end of the movie?
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Well that was certainly an experience. What a lot of vehicular carnage. Are the other films like that? I think I'll be hunting them down regardless but it'd be nice to know. Also I had no idea it was all practical effects and stuff. I tend not to think much about that unless it's explicitly pointed out, so I tend to just assume CGI until proven otherwise. But no, they built all these crazy cars and then drove them through a desert and blew up loads of things. That makes it even more impressive. Had to watch it in 3D, but it wasn't too bad. Also the shot of the Doof Wagon (I think it's called?) exploding was a great use of 3D. It was very goofy.
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Nelson Mandela posted:Are they definitely people? I saw them as actual crows, mutated beyond recognition, with legs and wings transformed into bony protrusions. Which is loving horrifying. My conclusion was that they were the men the Mothers left behind. When the ground goes bad and the seed won't sprout the women decide pragmatically to move on in the hope of something better. However the men stoically remain where they are and attempt to make do, becoming these bizarre stilt walkers, like the rest of the gangs they let the world derange them beyond recognition. I think it fits since that reactive pragmatism itself becomes deranged with the idea of the group just riding out into the Salt who knows where, rather than return to something they believe is unsalvagable. Max shows his most critical agency in the film by being the sensible stoic and convincing them to turn back. Whether or not they'd have escaped and made it that far without his help, if he hadn't been there they would have ridden on into nothingness. Also I agree that the Salt was once the Ocean, who knows what kind of geographical cataclysms the war caused?
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Even if there was no geographic cataclysm, the Pacific floor isn't a flat plain. The continental shelf itself would be daunting to traverse, and then you have untold trenches and mountain ranges.
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CeeJee posted:https://vimeo.com/127381179 Dredging this up again, thank you for the link and for ACS posting it. So many cameras bashed, lenses lost in the sand and mud. Worth a watch and listen for their view, learning when to cut losses or learn new tech. The saga of the DIT man and other tight moments. Panfilo posted:Something else that cracked me up, was Rictus Erectus drinking the milk. Total, Got Milk? moment :3 Great expression. Also Joe's eyes widening when Rictus or a warboy shouts essentially, "she thinks she can lose us in there!", then the long shot, holy poo poo. I sat behind a nuclear family with boys and after some tension the parents caught on. Cranking up the pace and cutting to black is cathartic. Still 24 hours until I take my (retired but track driving) gearhead dad to this for all those 80's action movies. Still excited!
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May 17, 2015 21:03
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Not to mention the changes in air pressure alone... Doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the movie at all, but the oceans drying up just isn't something that could happen in the near future.
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May 17, 2015 21:05
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Saw it, liked it. Ending doesn't make sense though. What's going to happen when the water runs out? Or when the rest of the army clear the canyon and make it back to the citadel? What was even their plan?
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May 17, 2015 21:06
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Product tie-ins I wish existed: Allstate's "Mayhem" guy strapped to the front of one of the Pursuit vehicles talking about what might happen if you settle with 'cut rate' car insurance. Rictus manages to stall the rig by ripping out the supercharger. It jackknifes, and cornflakes are spilling out. Rictus says, "I WAS GONNA HAVE BREAKFAST! AND IT WAS GONNA BE PERFECT!"(GOT MILK?) Mentos commercial with Furiosa having to fend off all the bandits and gangs. Pops mentos, smiles, headbutts goon, drives to safety. Old Spice commercial with War Boys huffing Old Spice body spray then kamikazing into some Buzzards "WITNESS ME! WITNESS MY AROMA *old spice jingle* "
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Wasn't Mercedes running some bizarro wasteland/mad max style commercial around the same time the trailers were airing?
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May 17, 2015 21:13
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Fangz posted:Saw it, liked it. It presumably won't, they'll raise the platform, and the previous two points. My question is actually what purpose do the ground-dwellers even serve for the clan? They aren't allowed access to the keep, and they can't produce much of value. Perhaps they're future blood bags...?
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victrix posted:Wasn't Mercedes running some bizarro wasteland/mad max style commercial around the same time the trailers were airing? I didn't see it, though that would be awesome. Kind of bummed there weren't more movie tie-ins with this film. The whole movie is like a kid playing with a bunch of hot wheels- "kaboom, pow! Doof Warrior rocking out, tanker truck EXPLOOODES!"
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cthulusnewzulubbq posted:It presumably won't, they'll raise the platform, and the previous two points. I looked at them as the breeders of, and broken former War Boys The Citadel is the shining light on the hill where the White House is guarded by the army
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cthulusnewzulubbq posted:It presumably won't, they'll raise the platform, and the previous two points. Immortan Joe needs a steady supply of women. He seems to be trying to breed out whatever plague the War Boys are suffering from. I'm guessing the breastmilk is from healthy women; he probably figures they can inoculate themselves from whatever plague by drinking the milk. Future blood bags is another possibility. Also, keep in mind Immortan Joe is a weird cult leader. He probably hopes to indoctrinate some of them. Look how giddy Nux got when Immortan Joe so much as looked in his direction? The true believers worship Immortan Joe as a deity of sorts. I imagine the Wretched probably venerate him to some extent (since he does give them some water). These folks also serve as a buffer for Immortan Joe and the War Boys. If faced with invasion or insurrection, there'd be enough people deserate to maintain the status quo (whose to say the next dictator will be LESS generous?) to help keep him in power. A big theme in the film is the lengths people will go when desperate to survive. To our safe goony lifestyles, it seems insane, but to them it might be completely practical.
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Just got back from seeing it again. First time was 2D and today was 3D, and I've gotta say, I thought the 3D was rad as hell. Not even in the "things flying out of nowhere" sense of experience, but just the way it added to the overall scope. It did a lot for the sense of scale, and was totally worth it. Also, I can't believe I missed this detail the first time: Splendid falls because her foot was slippery with blood from her gunshot wound. Whether or not Max himself noticed, if he hadn't shot her earlier, she wouldn't have fallen. 
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tvb posted:Just got back from seeing it again. First time was 2D and today was 3D, and I've gotta say, I thought the 3D was rad as hell. Not even in the "things flying out of nowhere" sense of experience, but just the way it added to the overall scope. It did a lot for the sense of scale, and was totally worth it. That's true, but they also mentioned she was Joe's 'favorite'. Probably for that reason she was using herself as a human shield.
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Panfilo posted:The whole movie is like a kid playing with a bunch of hot wheels- "kaboom, pow! Doof Warrior rocking out, tanker truck EXPLOOODES!" I'm stealing this to use on anyone not yet sold on this film.
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Fangz posted:Saw it, liked it. Water from deep tables doesn't usually run out for a long time. I interpreted the end as Furiosa and the wives run the place now. Anyone who came back would join them. They could probably even take over gas town and bullet farm. Though I don't think the movie is this tactically real. Can't wait for spoiler free posting .
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Panfilo posted:Immortan Joe needs a steady supply of women. He seems to be trying to breed out whatever plague the War Boys are suffering from. I'm guessing the breastmilk is from healthy women; he probably figures they can inoculate themselves from whatever plague by drinking the milk. Future blood bags is another possibility. Yeah I guess my brain picked all this up but on reflection I couldn't access it. Hence the instant deification of the Imperator, I guess.
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I gotta say Road Warrior was my favorite Mad Max movie. Just the idea of a gang chasing after a tanker truck was so cool. And George Miller took the coolest part of the series (to me) and made an even more insane movie out of it! Speculation on Max Max sequels: Max eventually finds his way to the ocean. Through a turn of events, he encounters an aging Kevin Costner on a sailboat. It turns out Mad Max and Waterworld somehow exist in the same universe. Mad Max 5: SURF AND TURF An (incredibly predictable) twist early in the film reveals the rest of civilization outside of Australia is a bustling modern metropolis; Australia is just some 'quarantine zone' isolated off from the rest of the planet. Max escapes and has car chases with his refurbished V8 interceptor against gangs in hovercars. Mad Max 6: MAXIMUM MAX
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There did not seem to be animals. The milk was a tradeable commodity.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:The problem here is where would the water go? And there is also no distance that would take that long to cover on a vehicle on earth. Going from Normandy, France, to Vladivostok on the Russian Pacific coast would take about a week to 2 weeks driving straight through. 160 days would be like circumnavigating the globe 6 or 7 times. They have to be speaking figuratively and/or is just a dumb bit of dialogue no one thought through. Go watch Long Way Round on Netflix. It's Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman riding motorcycles from London to New York, via Europe, Asia, and North America. Then watch Long Way Down, which is the same thing but from Scotland to South Africa. Riding motorcycles across bad roads or no roads is slow and painful. There is a big difference between 160 days over asphalt and 160 days over whatever sludge is left when the oceans dry up. Triskelli posted:Not to mention the changes in air pressure alone... Doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the movie at all, but the oceans drying up just isn't something that could happen in the near future. It's possible that the Earth could be going through a localized Ice Age as a result of nuclear war/global warming/whatever else we hosed up. Europe could be buried under miles of ice while the southern hemisphere burns.
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sorry cine d, the movie you like is actually trash and tumblr's gonna prove it: http://xmaslemmings.tumblr.com/post/119166292335/mad-max-fury-road 
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Late Unpleasantness posted:Cranking up the pace and cutting to black is cathartic. During a show at my theater when I'm working, I'll usually slip into the auditorium two times or so just to check sound and make sure nobody's smoking crack in the aisle or something. For Mad Max I've taken to doing my first check right near the "I LIVE! I DIE! I LIVE AGAIN!" dust-storm scene because it's awesome as hell and the crowd reaction is great. Once the screen goes dark it's just total dead silence in the theater for a couple seconds, followed by the collective sound of the audience letting out a breath at the same time. After that somebody will say, "Holy poo poo" or something like that and it always gets a good laugh. It's pretty great to be there for that release of tension. In my years of working in the theater I can't think of another movie that gets that reaction from the crowd. Maybe it's not like that in big theaters, which I guess is why I like moderate to small size ones like mine. There's definitely a 'all in this together' feeling during insane movies like this. Random audience observations: People chuckle when Max stomps on the two headed lizard, but nobody laughs when he proceeds to eat it. Dead silence. People also don't laugh when Nux eats the insect later on. I was expecting more eating gross things chuckles, but I guess it just fits well enough that it gets a "Well, yeah, makes sense" reaction. Biggest laugh of the show tends to be when Max hands off the rifle to Furiosa during the night scene. Probably followed by "He was just scanning the horizon!" Really the laughs are pretty subdued in general though. I get the impression that most of the people laughing had seen it already for some reason. I think everybody else is just overwhelmed. Also a woman remarked on her way out to her male friend that she'd totally do Nux. His response, "I'd do everybody car in this movie." Do not even ask posted:sorry cine d, the movie you like is actually trash and tumblr's gonna prove it: http://xmaslemmings.tumblr.com/post/119166292335/mad-max-fury-road Ugh. Tumblr needs to be lit on fire and then buried somewhere in the dead of night. TerminalBlue fucked around with this message at 21:44 on May 17, 2015 |
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cthulusnewzulubbq posted:Yeah I guess my brain picked all this up but on reflection I couldn't access it. That's what I think happened. When the gang rolls into the Citadel, the men on the platform stop it from going down and hold them at gunpoint....until Immortan Joe's corpse is revealed. The citizens on the ground immediately tear his body to shreds, but the War Boys let the platform down and willingly let them aboard. By killing Immortan Joe, they've proved that they are more powerful and worthy to lead.
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