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If Cormier becomes champion in Jones's absence, is the victory as hollow as it seems to me? It's Basically "Cormier by TKO: livin' large" Either Jones comes back and circles around the outside until the judges get dizzy and give him back the belt, or they never meet again, and for the rest of MMA history, it's, "He was only champion because Jones was too busy playing GTA: Albuquerque."
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May 21, 2015 09:08
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yllG0vFeGJI really good interview
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May 21, 2015 09:11
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please win chris
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May 21, 2015 09:34
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Foul Fowl posted:please win chris i wouldn't be too stressed. vitor is the definition of puncher's chance. a very good puncher's chance but it would still be incredibly surprising to see vitor win.
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May 21, 2015 09:42
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https://instagram.com/p/10c86uyS47/
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May 21, 2015 13:54
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Amirkhani's social media stuff is like one kitten post away from a 13 year old girl's and I couldn't love it more  Hope he kicks rear end in Berlin
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May 21, 2015 14:11
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Fozzy The Bear posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yllG0vFeGJI Just came here to post this link. This video is great because you can tell how incredibly mentally tough he is. He talks about nearly killing himself to make weight for the Maia fight and almost joining bellator because he needed money so bad but the UFC told him to get a few more fights. If you have some time, check it out.
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Centripetal Horse posted:If Cormier becomes champion in Jones's absence, is the victory as hollow as it seems to me? It's Basically "Cormier by TKO: livin' large" Either Jones comes back and circles around the outside until the judges get dizzy and give him back the belt, or they never meet again, and for the rest of MMA history, it's, "He was only champion because Jones was too busy playing GTA: Albuquerque." The same is true if Rumble wins. Anybody holding the belt right now is going to be thought of as second best till Jones gets back.
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May 21, 2015 14:22
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fatherdog posted:The same is true if Rumble wins. Anybody holding the belt right now is going to be thought of as second best till Jones gets back. The obvious difference is Cormier just lost decisively to Jones. If Rumble knocks Cormier out I think he'll be respected as the legit champion. I mean we won't know if he's better than jones until they fight but he won't be a paper champ the same way Cormier would be.
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May 21, 2015 14:47
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Dana is trying to setup DC vs Jones 2 obv
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if/when Jones comes back, they'd have to do DC/Jones 2. But from the way Dana talked about what a PR nightmare Jones is, there'd be some serious financial risk calculations before the UFC would even commit to bringing Jones back in.
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May 21, 2015 15:07
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they're going to make so much money when jones comes back
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coconono posted:if/when Jones comes back, they'd have to do DC/Jones 2. But from the way Dana talked about what a PR nightmare Jones is, there'd be some serious financial risk calculations before the UFC would even commit to bringing Jones back in. Well seeing as DW has already said Jones will get an instant title fight upon return, it would seem those calculations have been done.
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May 21, 2015 15:11
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Its funny that the greatest fighter of all time s such a pain in the rear end that its a calculated risk to sign him back.
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May 21, 2015 15:12
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How crazy would Vitor's resume be if both he and Rumble win on Saturday? Got 2 UFC titles in 2 weight classes* and wins over Rockhold, Weidman, and UFC champion Anthony Johnson. I hope he does all the roids.
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1st AD posted:How crazy would Vitor's resume be if both he and Rumble win on Saturday? Got 2 UFC titles in 2 weight classes* and wins over Rockhold, Weidman, and UFC champion Anthony Johnson. I was trying to imagine if all of the roids that vitor has ever taken were put into one pile what kind of vessel it would fill. A pot? A bucket? A tub? A barrel? A crate? The best part is that if someone did that, he would use the pile as evidence that he's totally clean bro, because how could he have taken all of the drugs if we have all of the drugs right there? Logic.
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May 21, 2015 15:41
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If Vitor shows up looking like CM Punk and knocks out Weidman it will be even better. But I'm prepared for something sad.
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May 21, 2015 15:50
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Vitors win over Rumble was also after Rumble had such a horrible cut that he was over 10 pounds over when he had to medically stop cutting and rehydrate. I think that fight at 205 without a horrible cut shapes up quite a bit differently.
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Glover vs OSP is apparently the main event for a fight night card in Nashville in early August. Makes sense I guess. Also Holly Holm vs Marion Reneau is being "targeted" for the Mir-Duffee card in San Diego according to a couple of sites. Another pretty good bit of matchmaking and a good test to see where they both are.
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colonel_korn posted:Glover vs OSP is apparently the main event for a fight night card in Nashville in early August. Makes sense I guess. All right there's too many cool fights on this middling mid-week fight night card. I'm going.
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Fozzy The Bear posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yllG0vFeGJI What a great interview.
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MycroftXXX posted:What a great interview. This was great and the Katie Nolan one a few pages ago was good too. Weidman is awesome.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn3rcbCF1fM&hd=1 Uneventful. Mostly Weidman being chill.
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fatherdog posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn3rcbCF1fM&hd=1  (not really, i just discovered we have this and i wanted to use it)
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fatherdog posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn3rcbCF1fM&hd=1 I liked seeing the humble, more human side of Conor in that. I like him.
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May 21, 2015 18:27
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Marching Powder posted:i wouldn't be too stressed. vitor is the definition of puncher's chance. a very good puncher's chance but it would still be incredibly surprising to see vitor win. it's not really a puncher's chance if he's done it to like 20 different guys over a period of as many years
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May 21, 2015 19:58
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Ya, someone with a punchers chance that does it to everyone is called a boxer When I think punchers chance I think Roy Nelson. Doesn't really box well, just throws an overhand right every once in a while. Whereas vitor throws a tonne of straight punches while moving forward and with great accuracy.
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May 21, 2015 20:11
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Nierbo posted:Ya, someone with a punchers chance that does it to everyone is called a boxer Since 2011 Vitor has 4 KOs, Roy has 5.
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May 21, 2015 20:15
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But the rest of his game comes off stunning his opponent with a blitz to get a sub or tko right? Whereas if Roy's BRH missed it lead to nothing
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fatherdog posted:Since 2011 Vitor has 4 KOs, Roy has 5. You're right; Roy Nelson fights a lot more than Vitor Belfort. In their last 6 fights, Vitor is 5-1 (4ko), while Roy is 2-4 (2ko).
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May 21, 2015 20:20
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Nierbo posted:But the rest of his game comes off stunning his opponent with a blitz to get a sub or tko right? Whereas if Roy's BRH missed it lead to nothing The rest of Vitor's game is gassing and giving up.
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I must have been thinking of old new old new old vitor instead of new old new old new vitor
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fatherdog posted:The rest of Vitor's game is gassing and giving up. Hey he put a permanent hitch in jone's elbow before gassing and giving up. So, that's pretty good.
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Let's not forget that Vitor has gone through some severe personal / familial trauma and still has a rather amazing career. TRT was doubtlessly a part of his resurgence but so is potentially putting severe mental health issues behind you (or at least enough that the crazy is peripheral and not interfering in the cage). My point is that drugs alone don't let you spin-kick Luke Rockhold in the face. fatherdog posted:Since 2011 Vitor has 4 KOs, Roy has 5. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 21:34 on May 21, 2015 |
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Foul Fowl posted:it's not really a puncher's chance if he's done it to like 20 different guys over a period of as many years It is when he's fighting Chris Weidman.
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I loving love Chris Weidman. Ever since the Maia fight he's been one of my favorite fighters and the Silva fights made him my absolute #1. His fights are some of the biggest sports nights of the year for me personally.
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i love chris as much as the next guy but this level of apotheosis is getting a bit absurd
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Foul Fowl posted:i love chris as much as the next guy but this level of apotheosis is getting a bit absurd People liking the cool good fighter and thinking he has an incredibly good chance of beating the guy notorious for gassing early (even in his juice ridden prime) is absurd? You must not have experienced MMA fandom that long. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 22:18 on May 21, 2015 |
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Foul Fowl posted:i love chris as much as the next guy but this level of apotheosis is getting a bit absurd People rooting for Chris over the steroid guy with a stupid haircut is some sort of a shock to you?
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