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Dead Cow posted:Because my focus was on bowmore, and later on bowmore, you and wwm DC what is your response to my word vomit on the previous page?
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So out of curiosity, since I can't really ask this after the act (I guess I'd get to see it but I'd prefer not to), let's say I get lynched, and I am innocent as I continue to claim: Now what happens? Who's scum etc?
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May 25, 2015 12:56
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fiery_valkyrie posted:The problem with your questions is that you are assuming I think both DC and Shanakin are scum together. I see. Personally I am not getting the traitor vibe from Shanakin in our mason interactions but he will most likely tell you the same thing about me, and he did, when you ask if he is getting one from me. I very willing to drop a vote for DC if she dosen't give me a reason not to as I said earlier. I really believe we can't afford not to lynch SOMEONE today or we will be losing hard.
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May 25, 2015 13:01
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Gridlocked posted:DC what is your response to my word vomit on the previous page? Honestly? I think it's aligned with some of the thoughts I've had. fiery_valkyrie posted:
Which is why we should lynch wwm instead of shanakin
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May 25, 2015 13:06
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Dead Cow posted:Honestly? I think it's aligned with some of the thoughts I've had. You think WWM and you are scum and are covering for each other?
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May 25, 2015 13:10
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Dead Cow posted:Honestly? I think it's aligned with some of the thoughts I've had. Also you are being really flippant here. You voted for Shanakin while saying that you think WWM is scum. 1 (totally stealing FVs in text referencing system here) And are now saying we should be lynching WWM anyway seemingly forgetting this vote. Back me up on this FV, this is dodgy as hell right? Honestly I am starting to suspect you more and more.
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May 25, 2015 13:15
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##vote DC Don't trust the cop claim, DC you are absolutely tunneled in on me, and even if you thought I was scum why aren't you voting me?
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May 25, 2015 15:54
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WHICH WAY MADNESS posted:##vote DC Why don't trust the cop claim? Why did you vote for DGK over DC earlier; but now you say don't trust the cop claim and switch to DC? Do you not think DGK is guilty anymore? What are your thoughts on Shanakin now? What are your thoughts on me now, especially considering I pinged you for a while there?
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May 25, 2015 16:05
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Gridlocked posted:Why don't trust the cop claim? quote:Why did you vote for DGK over DC earlier; but now you say don't trust the cop claim and switch to DC? Do you not think DGK is guilty anymore? quote:What are your thoughts on Shanakin now? quote:What are your thoughts on me now, especially considering I pinged you for a while there?
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May 25, 2015 16:50
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I think its ridiculous to get mad at me because I didn't get lynched.
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May 25, 2015 23:46
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Dead Cow posted:I think its ridiculous to get mad at me because I didn't get lynched. Is it really though?
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May 25, 2015 23:58
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DC, you missed these questions from me earlier.fiery_valkyrie posted:So if we lynched Shanakin and he was scum you don't think it is possible that WWM was just town who thought he was scum?
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May 26, 2015 00:01
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WWM if you don't trust the cop claim, why aren't you voting one of grandi/dgk?
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May 26, 2015 00:10
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Asiina posted:Is it really though?
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May 26, 2015 00:13
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WHICH WAY MADNESS posted:I'm not the kind of player who takes a claim at face value. I find DGK to be scummy. That hasn't changed. Couple of possibilities exist - 1. I'm wrong, DGK is town, Grandi is a cop, and will likely get NK'd tonight because our doctor is dead - statistically most likely; 2. I'm right, DGK is scum godfather, Grandi is a town cop who got a town result on DGK who will likely get NK'd tonight because our doctor is dead - obviously I'd prefer this scenario, and with a game this size having a scum godfather, roleblocker, and vanilla scum is a likely possibility. But again, this is speculation; 3. I'm right, DGK is scum, Grandi is scum and is lying to protect his scum bud - highly unlikely that Grandi would put himself out there this early. This is actually all good to me. I am willing to believe that I got a bit crazy paranoid on you there WWM.
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May 26, 2015 00:37
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Bowmore: Haven't heard from you in a while, what's your take on this? Quandary: You were Shanakins most vocal oppoent at the start of this day; what is your stance now?
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May 26, 2015 00:40
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Quandary posted:WWM if you don't trust the cop claim, why aren't you voting one of grandi/dgk?
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May 26, 2015 00:41
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bowmore posted:this, he should still have his vote on DGK if he really doesn't trust it I see why he doesn't though, he believes both DC and DGK to be scum and is fine with either getting lynched; it's just everyone stopped voting for DGK thus putting one vote on him and never moving is effectively wasting one vote for the town unless we all pile back onto DGK.
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May 26, 2015 00:50
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Grandicap posted:It is still holiday weekend and I am only reading in the barest of senses, but there are more votes than I am comfortable with flying at DGK. This is a terrible idea with a flipped doc already, but. Grandi, why did you choose DGK to investigate?
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May 26, 2015 00:56
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Grandi, why did you choose DGK to investigate?
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May 26, 2015 01:00
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Gridlocked posted:Also you are being really flippant here. You voted for Shanakin while saying that you think WWM is scum. 1 (totally stealing FVs in text referencing system here) And are now saying we should be lynching WWM anyway seemingly forgetting this vote. Back me up on this FV, this is dodgy as hell right? FV do you agree with this assessment?
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May 26, 2015 01:01
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Bowmore: Haven't heard from you in a while, what's your take on this?
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May 26, 2015 01:01
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Gridlocked posted:Bowmore: Haven't heard from you in a while, what's your take on this?
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May 26, 2015 01:08
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bowmore posted:on what? On the whole discussion of Shanakin, WWM and DC since you last posted?
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May 26, 2015 01:10
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I think WWM is scummy for saying he distrusts the cop claim but changed vote anyway (BUT I also did this, so I can give it a mild pass) DC is likely scum, I'd happily lynch. Still haven't had time to read Shanakin, today maybe is that all good?
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May 26, 2015 01:12
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Gridlocked posted:I see why he doesn't though, he believes both DC and DGK to be scum and is fine with either getting lynched; it's just everyone stopped voting for DGK thus putting one vote on him and never moving is effectively wasting one vote for the town unless we all pile back onto DGK. This is a really bad way to view votes. Until the deadline is close, a vote is nothing more than a symbolic show of where you believe scum is. If you legitimately believe someone is scum, it doesn't make sense to pull a vote off of them until the deadline, as the vote is what shows your suspicion. If he doesn't believe the cop claim then he should be fighting to convince the rest of us to his viewpoint, not going "oh well no-one agrees might as well vote elsewhere". I can't decide if doing that is scummy or just being bad at mafia.
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May 26, 2015 01:24
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Gridlocked posted:FV do you agree with this assessment? No. DC has been pretty consistent about thinking both were scum. She's just moved her vote from one of them to the other.
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May 26, 2015 01:29
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fiery_valkyrie posted:No. DC has been pretty consistent about thinking both were scum. She's just moved her vote from one of them to the other. I think her "which is why we should lynch wwm not Shanakin" comment is a bit odd though in light of her previous vote and comments. It just seems off.
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May 26, 2015 01:32
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Gridlocked posted:I think her "which is why we should lynch wwm not Shanakin" comment is a bit odd though in light of her previous vote and comments. It just seems off. Do you think she's scum? You keep talking negatively about her.
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May 26, 2015 01:35
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Do you think she's scum? You keep talking negatively about her. Yes: Gridlocked posted:
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May 26, 2015 01:37
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May 26, 2015 01:38
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Quandary posted:This is a really bad way to view votes. Until the deadline is close, a vote is nothing more than a symbolic show of where you believe scum is. If you legitimately believe someone is scum, it doesn't make sense to pull a vote off of them until the deadline, as the vote is what shows your suspicion. If he doesn't believe the cop claim then he should be fighting to convince the rest of us to his viewpoint, not going "oh well no-one agrees might as well vote elsewhere". This is dumb, you can definitely think more than one person is scum at a time and you can't be voting for both. I agree with WWM, I'm not sure I believe in the cop claim, although I lean towards godfather rather than Grandi just making it up. But it's not the best vote today, so it's fine to go to a different choice.
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Gridlocked posted:Also I notice that Asiina hasn't answered this, and I would like it answered. Because the question is pointless, I already said how I feel about them based on their posting. Not everything results in an airtight scum or town read.
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May 26, 2015 01:52
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Asiina posted:Because the question is pointless, I already said how I feel about them based on their posting. Not everything results in an airtight scum or town read. That question is about myself and Shanakin, which I don't think you have already said yet.
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May 26, 2015 01:54
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Quandary posted:WWM if you don't trust the cop claim, why aren't you voting one of grandi/dgk? Because lynching the uncounterclaimed cop would be dumb. I would love to lynch DGK, but I don't feel like battling that particular windmill right now. I certainly don't trust him, but short of a huge groundswell of support, nobody else is going to lynch someone with a town result on them.
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May 26, 2015 02:01
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Grandicap posted:It is still holiday weekend and I am only reading in the barest of senses, but there are more votes than I am comfortable with flying at DGK. This is a terrible idea with a flipped doc already, but. Why did you investigate DGK? Why not Kleedrac, who you focused a significant amount of time on yesterday and encouraged people to vote for (1) (2) (3)? Why claim on D2? A mislynch is bad but potentially losing both the doctor and the cop on consecutive nights seems almost inordinately worse.
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MAFIA EDIT: I'm inclined to believe Grandicap's claim for the time being, just because I haven't noticed anything particularly suspicious about his behavior and because his claim is still uncountered. Nonetheless, I would warn against discounting DGK outright. I agree with those saying that we should shift our focus for the time being and see how the situation plays out.
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May 26, 2015 02:09
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Asiina posted:Because the question is pointless, I already said how I feel about them based on their posting. Not everything results in an airtight scum or town read. Your feelings were a bunch of white noise. I know you can't be airtight on everyone, but you couldn't even say which way you were leaning on either bowmore or Shanakin.
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May 26, 2015 02:18
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Grandi, why did you choose DGK to investigate? I thought the whole DGK\DC interaction was interesting and would give me the most information going forward. I did not want to drop the investigation on DC or Kleedrac because I thought I or someone else could swing a vote on either of them with some doing. I wanted to investigate someone who a) I have trouble reading and b)will be around for at least a bit.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Your feelings were a bunch of white noise. I know you can't be airtight on everyone, but you couldn't even say which way you were leaning on either bowmore or Shanakin. I don't think there is anything particularly scummy about either of their posts, which btw is what I said the first time. Asiina posted:I think bowmore is someone who isn't really paying a whole lot of attention, but I don't see that as a scumtell for him. I feel like the Shanakin case is pretty shaky. Yes he (she?) was one of the people who didn't vote for DC at the end of the day, and that is suspicious, but I'll take Shanakin and Gridlocked at their word that Shanakin forgot deadline. The rest looks like typical newbie awkwardness and is generally null. With a gun to my head I'd vote Shanakin, but I think there are much better votes out there currently.
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