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Speaking of Buffy, what was going on with them having her character appearing from behind a whole bunch? Like, why did they keep bringing the character on if they clearly didn't have SMG?
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Moriatti posted:Speaking of Buffy, what was going on with them having her character appearing from behind a whole bunch? Like, why did they keep bringing the character on if they clearly didn't have SMG? You mean in one episode?
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May 23, 2015 05:13
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It's a gag in The Girl in Question, but also used earlier in the season, I think in Soul Purpose. They also use dialouge clips of her from the show? It struck me as really weird. EDIT: It's like "hey remember this character? We can't actually bring her in, but she looks kind of like this from behind I guess?" EDIT 2: Also, Andrew's speech in Damage felt like a Buffy speech to me, but a lot of characters do that, so it's less glaring then Soul Purpose. Moriatti fucked around with this message at 05:41 on May 23, 2015 |
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May 23, 2015 05:39
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Moriatti posted:Yeah, over the course of the day I've come to accept the ending as it is. I think I just really enjoyed that universe? Especially after season 5, that almost made up for season 4's... Season 4ness. What did you think of season 4?
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May 23, 2015 10:29
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hope and vaseline posted:Actually I'm kind of curious, since Angel is now on Dark Horse, do the current Buffy comics acknowledge any of After the Fall as happening? The After the Fall comics are Canon, and actually led to the biggest status quo change in Season Eight. The comics after that aren't.
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May 23, 2015 12:19
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redshirt posted:What did you think of season 4? I think it had some neat moments, but was overall surrounded by having 2 different love triangles run at once, one of which had intentional oedipal themes, and was even more uncomfortable because of it. Also, it was the worst with Buffy/Angel's problems of no one talking to each other so now they all hate each other. I quite liked the Jasmine arc though, and although Evil Cordelia seemed weird and awkwardly handled, it was kind of fun to have an evil character they could show us when things went wrong. It wasn't the worst season of anything I've ever watched, but I did consider droping the show during it.
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May 23, 2015 14:10
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The best thing about the comics is that Nicholas Brendon is like the only cast member who even read them.
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May 24, 2015 21:32
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Bicyclops posted:The best thing about the comics is that Nicholas Brendon is like the only cast member who even reads them. No wonder he's still got a drink problem.
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May 24, 2015 22:05
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Bicyclops posted:The best thing about the comics is that Nicholas Brendon is like the only cast member who even read them. James Marsters had input on several Spike related stories. We got him to sign a Spike trade at WizardWorld and he asked if we liked the direction IDW took with them. Proving once again that Spike is the best Buffy/Angel character ever.
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May 24, 2015 22:12
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I've only read Season 8 and After the Fall. The first half of Season 8 is sort of okay, though there's a lot of stuff that came off as a bit pandering (they go to Japan to fight Japanese vampires who have a giant robotic version of Dawn, which fights regular Dawn, who has been turned into a giant by a magic STD), and there's one story arc by Brian K. Vaughan with Faith and Giles that I thought was very good. However, at the midway point, Jane Espenson starts writing, and it becomes well naff. You have a much larger canvas with comics than you do with television; they were able to target much larger-scale storytelling in the comic than was feasible on TV but a lot of the time, it's just too far removed from the series, and it ends up feeling less like a Buffy comic and more like a comic with Buffy characters in it. It doesn't always feel like the same universe. As for After the Fall, it has a cool idea, but the art is pretty inconsistent and I don't think it's really all too coherent taken as a whole. Never read any of the subsequent stuff, though what I've heard isn't exactly favourable. I've not really been bothered with Buffy comics since, though I've heard that Seasons 9-10 and Angel & Faith are meant to be good (probably because they have actual comic book writers doing them).
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May 24, 2015 22:17
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Season 8 is dogshit. As is most of 9. Season 10 is better if only for the Buffy/Giles moment early in the series.
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May 24, 2015 22:30
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Moriatti posted:I think it had some neat moments, but was overall surrounded by having 2 different love triangles run at once, one of which had intentional oedipal themes, and was even more uncomfortable because of it. Also, it was the worst with Buffy/Angel's problems of no one talking to each other so now they all hate each other. I quite liked the Jasmine arc though, and although Evil Cordelia seemed weird and awkwardly handled, it was kind of fun to have an evil character they could show us when things went wrong. I started watching Angel at the end of Season 3 as it aired so Season 4 was just a thrill ride for me, as I had no real idea who any of these characters were and just had to roll with the story. Like the Beast was awesome and the first couple of Jasmine episodes were so weird it just threw me. I then bought all the DVD's for Angel and Buffy so I got the backstory. I recently re-watched all of of Angel and I was surprised how much Cordelia's Season 4 heel turn bummed me out, as she had become my favorite character. But the heel turn makes sense as part of her larger story, I guess (she's being used the whole time by one side or the other). Still, season 4 followed by no Cordelia in Season 5 save the one episode was a real bummer. Cordelia was a core part of the show and casting her off in such a fashion feels cheap.
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May 24, 2015 23:48
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I am not the biggest fan of Cordelia as a character or Charisma Carpenter as an actor but it really does seem like what happened in seasons 4 and 5 of Angel were a punishment for Capenter's pregnancy, and that is severely hosed up.
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May 25, 2015 04:39
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Amazingly enough Bound (2015) does not improve when viewed at blu ray resolution. Will provide update upon 4k release. Fingers crossed!
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May 25, 2015 05:27
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Adam Baldwin continues to be a huge oval office. http://www.avclub.com/article/adam-...eview:1:Default
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Jun 26, 2015 23:57
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"continues"? What else has he said/done? I mean those tweets are enough in themselves but I'm not aware of other stuff he's done that's lovely.
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Jun 28, 2015 02:35
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double nine posted:"continues"? What else has he said/done? I mean those tweets are enough in themselves but I'm not aware of other stuff he's done that's lovely. We've known he's been a huge oval office since Firefly, do you not read this thread? It comes up from time to time as well as how Joss takes great pleasure in tormenting him.
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Jun 28, 2015 03:37
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I think his main crime was being a huge outspoken George W Bush supporter and thereby an Iraq War enthusiast while living in Hollywood. Where he is instead supposed to be a passionate Democrat and continue to silently push the massive tax on the poor/millionaire's welfare that is the residuals system and Hollywood's limitless copyright extensions. And he pissed off that really snippy ex-NFL kicker on twitter. I don't recall him tangibly doing something that makes him an awful person.
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Jun 28, 2015 03:53
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You're both right.
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Jun 28, 2015 04:02
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I never said he was an awful person, I said he was a huge oval office. There's a difference.
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Jun 28, 2015 04:05
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He was the one who named that misogynist gamer movement that shall not be named (please don't discuss that here) and no joke, is even more of a Republican nut than his character on Chuck. So... what's Joss doing now that he isn't a key figure in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
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Jun 28, 2015 05:03
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Rhyno posted:I never said he was an awful person, I said he was a huge oval office.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:05
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Women can be dicks and cockheads... we're past it being gendered.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:09
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Rocksicles posted:Women can be dicks and cockheads... we're past it being gendered. This. bowmore posted:Not that I want to stick up for Baldwin but using gendered insults makes you an awful person Don't be a dick.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:14
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Rhyno posted:This.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:16
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And aren't we also through the looking glass to where it was actually bowmore who committed the faux pas for excluding people by soley equating oval office-havery with just one gender?Argue posted:He was the one who named that misogynist gamer movement that shall not be named (please don't discuss that here) I'm not emotionally attached to the issue but you just tried to pull off one lovely drive-by and declare yourself home free in the same savlo.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:17
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bowmore posted:Nah, you are being the dick. That is a gendered insult good sir. shadow puppet of a posted:And aren't we also through the looking glass to where it was actually bowmore who committed the faux pas for excluding people by soley equating oval office-havery with just one gender? Oh snap.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:18
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shadow puppet of a posted:Just to be clear we are also talking about the movement that is fine with women but hates the nepotistic enthusiast press for pushing facile poo poo like Gone Home as Game Of The Year and having the staff of Polygon use the exact language of 90's Think of The Children religious right game-ban crusaders against their hobby? You sound pretty emotionally attached. I don't think that's a bad thing, but you also seem really invested in that "notice I'm an oppressed minority in this particular crowd" way and it's not endearing. Argue posted:So... what's Joss doing now that he isn't a key figure in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? I imagine a nice long vacation with what was hopefully a ton of money that he got paid for The Avengers. Hopefully he doesn't sit too long, if he times this right he'll have his pick of whatever geek property he could want.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:39
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mind the walrus posted:You sound pretty emotionally attached. I don't think that's a bad thing, but you also seem really invested in that "notice I'm an oppressed minority in this particular crowd" way and it's not endearing. I'm a fat white 30+ goon, I'm in no way a minority to anything.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:43
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shadow puppet of a posted:The only things I genuinely care about is hating the Xbox One, hating Bajorans and hating game writer Patrick Klepek for years prior to that misogyny movement. My love of Major Kira means we are now blood enemies.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:45
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Rhyno posted:My love of Major Kira means we are now blood enemies. As far as it can be said, I classify her as "One of the good ones." I'm convinced she only tolerated her own people to get in Vedic Bareil's robes.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:47
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shadow puppet of a posted:Vedic Bareil's robes.  "Shaolin Rapist" is my troll handle.
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Jun 28, 2015 05:52
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Every time Nicholas Brendon does something embarrassingly self-destructive and disheartening, I think, "Well, at least he's not Adam Baldwin."
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Jun 28, 2015 05:59
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BrianWilly posted:Every time Nicholas Brendon does something embarrassingly self-destructive and disheartening, I think, "Well, at least he's not Adam Baldwin." Every time I see Brendon in the news for being a public drunk I'm like "It must be Tuesday." But seriously, he tried real hard to get a gig on Agents of SHIELD and it's no wonder why Joss never called him back is it.
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Jun 28, 2015 06:03
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I didn't know about Agents of SHIELD. That's really sad. Dude is talented enough to be worth a drat if he can keep his act together.
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Jun 28, 2015 06:03
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mind the walrus posted:I didn't know about Agents of SHIELD. That's really sad. Dude is talented enough to be worth a drat if he can keep his act together. We've met him about 8 times now (because his career is in such a shambles that he does cons to get by) and it was the saddest story. One summer he talks mad poo poo about Joss, the next he has endless respect and admiration for him. You have to wonder what kind of meds he's on or off that triggers his fits. Edit: It's even sadder when he talks about how Xander is basically turned into a Nick Fury-ish character in the Buffy Season 8 comics and how badly he wanted to be a part of the MCU.
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Jun 28, 2015 06:08
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Rhyno posted:Edit: It's even sadder when he talks about how Xander is basically turned into a Nick Fury-ish character in the Buffy Season 8 comics and how badly he wanted to be a part of the MCU. Worst of all I think I know the character he'd have been angling to play on Agents and if he was on his game he'd have been perfect for the part.
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Jun 28, 2015 06:19
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Jun 28, 2015 06:23
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That Grant Ward guy. Granted I checked out of Agents of Shield before that big turn, so I don't know how the actor is doing now, but like all the actors on the first season of Agents he was so stiff and unlikable. I think Brendon would have brought some much needed personality to the "stiff soldier" routine.
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mind the walrus posted:That Grant Ward guy. Granted I checked out of Agents of Shield before that big turn, so I don't know how the actor is doing now, but like all the actors on the first season of Agents he was so stiff and unlikable. I think Brendon would have brought some much needed personality to the "stiff soldier" routine. I doubt he could play the batshit insane ward we have now. I also think that he would be too old for the role as Ward as he was written.
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