Abner Cadaver II posted:

When you truly believe that there's either eternal bliss or eternal torment awaiting you depending on your accepting a very particular version of Jesus into your heart or not, things like honesty and common decency in a relationship seem irrelevant in light of potential Soul Saving.

effectual posted:

All religious people are literally insane and should be treated.

effectual posted:

All religious people are literally insane and should be treated.

pentyne posted:

"Now, I'm going to suck your dick, but you need to remember that I'm not gay and I'm not enjoying it and hate it but I really really really think I can convert you to Evangelical Christianity and you'll learn to become straight. Please tap my head twice when you're about to finish."

effectual posted:

All religious people are literally insane and should be treated.

effectual posted:

All religious people are literally insane and should be treated.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

I had to Bing this.

All I can say is da fuq?

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

I had to Bing this.

All I can say is da fuq?

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

D&D, folks.

jivjov posted:

Can anyone figure out what exactly these guys are trying to argue here? Like, apparently they think gay polygamy got legalized too? Or that Friday's ruling was just a stunt to make divorce money? I'm seriously confirmed.

Edit: in a different comment, he asked me if I thought we should repeal any law based on the Ten Commandments, since that's just people using their religion as a basis for law....so maybe he's just an idiot.

jivjov posted:

Can anyone figure out what exactly these guys are d TX ds sad trying to argue here? Like, apparently they think gay polygamy got legalized too? Or that Friday's ruling was just a stunt to xx make divorce money?

Jarmak posted:

I know critical thinking is not normally your strong suit but why are you posting reactionary garbage when someone already took the time to give me actual good and thoughtful reasons why this isn't a valid concern and I accepted them.

alnilam posted:

But does it ever directly give a "listen up, here's the definition of marriage"? Legit curious. As far as i know it's all incidental.

alnilam posted:

The Bible talks about multiple instances of people getting married (as people itt pointed out, it also gives rules for how you have to marry your rapist, or your military captor, and gives accounts of lots of hosed up marriages including harems, servants, sisters, etc).

But does it ever directly give a "listen up, here's the definition of marriage"? Legit curious. As far as i know it's all incidental.

SedanChair posted:

Yeah, there are several mentions of how you can have more than one spouse. Plus concubines.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Louisiana State Senator, David Vitter after the Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage

Cingulate posted:

There isn't really any detail on which the Bible has only one perspective.

Normatively, the Bible tends to prefer one-man-one-woman-forever, but it also explicitly allows a bunch of other stuff, including polygamy.

usbombshell posted:

A little late, but I just realized that I ate Chik fila on decision day.

(You get a free chicken sandwich with your baseball ticket if the Pittsburgh Pirates turn a double play in the "Spot the Cow" inning. Our local Chik fila's gave out a lot of free chicken that day).

Cingulate posted:

There isn't really any detail on which the Bible has only one perspective.

Normatively, the Bible tends to prefer one-man-one-woman-forever, but it also explicitly allows a bunch of other stuff, including polygamy.

quote:

They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. It may also be paved with misguided, immoral, unlawful and unconstitutional Supreme Court decisions.

The Supreme Court’s unconscionable ruling released on Friday, which imposes recognition of sodomy-based marriage on the entire United States, will have devastating consequences for our nation.

Our first national sin was slavery. It took a civil war and 600,000 American deaths before we turned as a people from that abomination both culturally and in our national public policy.

Our second national sin is abortion, which the Court embraced on our behalf in 1973. We have yet to turn from that pernicious form of evil. God’s justice demands an accounting for the shed blood of 57 million innocents.

Now the Court has added a third national sin to the list by embracing sexual perversion and ordering everybody in America to accept it or else. Who knows what kind of national catastrophe it will take to humble us as a people and persuade us to turn from the wickedness of murdering the unborn and engaging in sexual perversion?

If it took a civil war to compel us to deal with slavery, I shudder to think of what awaits us. As Thomas Jefferson did, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that his justice cannot sleep forever.

But, as Dale, a caller to my program on Friday pointed out, there is another feature of the Court’s ruling that is even more sobering. The Court has made it easier for people to go to hell.

The Scriptures are clear in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 that unrepentant homosexuality is a sin that will keep a man from the kingdom of God. “Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”

Everyone of these sins will keep us out of God’s eternal kingdom if it is not repented of, whether the sin is sexual deviancy or cheating in business. On the other hand, the great news of the gospel is that not one of these sins can keep us out of God’s eternal kingdom if it is confessed as sin and brought under the blood of Christ. That’s why the gospel is literally “the good news.”

The Supreme Court on Friday jeopardized the eternal souls of millions of Americans by justifying the sin of homosexuality. The Court has used its considerable authority to communicate the exceedingly dangerous message that homosexual marriage is not a perversion to be renounced but a constitutional right to be celebrated and promoted.

Thus the Court has moved millions of impressionable Americans one giant step further from repentance and eternal life. Who knows how many of them will use the Court’s ruling to defend their own behavior? The liberal majority will have much to answer for on The Day.

Jesus warned us in Luke 17:1-4, “Temptations are sure to come, but woe to the one through they come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.”

God’s design is that every segment of society – family, church, community, government, education, business, and media – reinforce the abiding and eternal moral standards of the word of God, in order that citizens may be reminded of the divine nature of these standards, develop a reverence and respect for them, and be prompted to seek God for forgiveness when they recognize their own moral failings.

The Court has told the world that homosexuality is not something over which men should repent but something over which they should rejoice. In so doing, the liberal majority on the Court has done a historical disservice to this nation and an eternal disservice to mankind. They have aided and abetted those misguided souls who are inclined to engage in unrepentant sin which will separate them from God forever.

Jesus told us in Matthew 7:13 that “the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction.” The Supreme Court has just added an express lane on the highway to hell.

blarzgh posted:

Christians (like every social group) pick and choose the tenants they want, but in general they look to the new testament for their Terms and Conditions. The idea is that when Jesus was born, poo poo got real/prophecy fulfilled, so now we are going to start doing things a different way.

So, alot of things that were OK in Genesis and Exodus, etc. became Not OK when Jesus came around.

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there is something that can be done to immediately express disapproval loud and clear and have a future impact.

I was extremely disappointed by the decision and like so many people believe that, as a nation, our religious freedoms are at risk, and will be diminished.

After letting that sink in I began to wonder how I could respond in a meaningful way anticipating the changes that are coming through lawsuits, court challenges, fines, etc. against our deeply held beliefs. Denying this, in my view, is not reality.

The question to me was how do we minimize the future activity against us, respectfully. How can we have a meaningful effect quickly?

So, in the middle of a restless last night the thought came; black ribbons hanging on the American flag, on as many as possible as soon as possible.

It is my belief that if enough are seen by and on the 4th of July the message will not be ignored. That message is “we disagree with the decision and we are many”.

It doesn’t require elaborate explanations in fact, the fewer the better. But the response has to be quick and in large numbers. This can be done now….all it takes is contacting those you know who are disappointed.

And do this by any and all social media asking them to hang a black ribbon on their flag and ask them to pass the idea on.

This could cover the nation in days, not waiting for organized demonstrations.

To have impact the response has to be quick and impressive.

*I’m writing this anonymously since I think there could be personal reprisals. I’m sure Tami would forward any comments.

Cingulate posted:

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Barbwire really is on a goddamn roll

LET’S DO THIS IN RESPONSE TO THE GOD-MOCKING SCOTUS DECISION




http://barbwire.com/2015/06/29/breaking-lets-do-this-in-response-to-the-god-mocking-scotus-decision/

Epic High Five posted:

If that does catch on I bet you're gonna see some rainbows hanging from American flags too

Do It Once Right posted:

It's already caught on. You wouldn't believe the amount of statehouses and government buildings that have objected to marriage equality for years.

what is this, I cannot even begin to process posted:

If my neighbor told me that 2 plus 2 = 3 and I tell him that he is incorrect, and that 2 plus 2 = 4, would that make me a bigot in the way that word is being used today? For the same situation, if I were to show him a math textbook that explained the above problem, would that be bigotry? My personal belief is that 2 plus 2 = 4 if that will help. The first 2 examples will be "A" and "B". Example "C" is this. I have a personal belief that 2 plus 2 = 4 and I do not share it with my neighbor who believes that 2 plus 2 = 3, would that make me a bigot in the way that the word is being used today?

jivjov posted:

One of those same guys from my last photo just replied with the following, and I honestly think it broke me a little bit:

blarzgh posted:

This isn't the place for a biblical derail, particularly with someone who's already decided what they want to believe

Do It Once Right posted:

It's already caught on. You wouldn't believe the amount of statehouses and government buildings that have objected to marriage equality for years.

southpaugh posted:

He doesn't understand the subtle difference between objective truth and subjective truth.

Cingulate posted:

is this the ISIS flag