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I've found two other uses for vergil's concentration meter beyond more damage and bigger judgement cuts when the meter is maxed his beowulf moves get a third level of charging (level 3 just charge and distorted uppercut is hilarious) and if you let him put his katana away all summoned swords embedded in enemies instantly explode
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Pureauthor posted:Nero's method for dealing with the swordfish are to render them completely helpless punching bags anyway, so it's not like they're a marvel of design for either character. True. I'm glad they are a rare monster.
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Jul 2, 2015 05:46
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darealkooky posted:If you let him put his katana away all summoned swords embedded in enemies instantly explode I thought that only worked with Yamato combo B (DMC3 Yamato combo basically)? drat now I need to screw around some more.
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Jul 2, 2015 05:52
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darealkooky posted:I've found two other uses for vergil's concentration meter beyond more damage and bigger judgement cuts I'm pretty sure it gives a pretty big buff to hitboxes/range too, some of his Yamato strikes with max concentration cover an absurd amount of distance and width.
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ImpAtom posted:I've been fooling around with Lady a bit and I think I was too hard on her handguns earlier. They're honestly really good. Not as good as the shotgun but she has one of the more flexible movepools with them out and the charge shot is still absurdly good. Yeah, I like them much more than the shotty, actually. The launcher into twosome-time is great for crowd control. And even for a scrub like me... LDK mode is REALLY fun. Just seas of enemies and SSS ranks.
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Jul 3, 2015 01:26
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I just barely started playing Vergil and I decided to do it in LDK. Any tips for the hordes of Frosts? I get through it okay with spammed sword formations and Starfall 2 for stuns, but I want to do better.
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Jul 3, 2015 01:54
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J2DK posted:I just barely started playing Vergil and I decided to do it in LDK. Any tips for the hordes of Frosts? I get through it okay with spammed sword formations and Starfall 2 for stuns, but I want to do better. from my experience so far in ldk as vergil (my only experience): devil trigger and sword formations are your friend especially blistering swords and spiral swords
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Jul 3, 2015 01:57
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Endless DT'd rapid slashes are amazingly fun against hordes of scarecrows. Also nthing the sword formation love, they feel overpowered as hell on lower difficulties.
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Jul 3, 2015 09:05
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just found out there`s actually an unlisted spiral sword move after you have the tutu out, if you hold the button again the swords will get in really close and hold around you, then shoot out in all directions when you let go you can do this while you taunt too so you can do stuff like spiral swords, taunt to get most of the meter back, release the swords if anyone gets close since these specific swords knock enemies back
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Jul 3, 2015 10:34
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darealkooky posted:just found out there`s actually an unlisted spiral sword move i swear this move was in dmc3 but i can't seem to do it so lol welp there are way too many blitz in bloody palace i just wanna beat it as trish but it's blitzes as far as the eye can see and i only have so much dt meter on the plus side i discovered that her DT actually lets her attack the cloak guys with her melee so those rooms are a joke now
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Jul 3, 2015 10:46
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Use Pandora rockets on Blitzes. If you're in the air, the transformation is stupid fast and you can get a couple shots off each time it appears.
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Jul 3, 2015 15:44
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By the by, in case anyone is curious about what Ninja Theory is up to these days, they're working on the combat system for Disney Infinity 3.0
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ImpAtom posted:By the by, in case anyone is curious about what Ninja Theory is up to these days, they're working on the combat system for Disney Infinity 3.0 I'd poke fun, but Platinum are making a friggin' Transformers game (which I'm totally gonna buy, because G1 Transformers and Platinum games are both my jam, but still, poo poo's weird and clearly a cash-in quickie)
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ImpAtom posted:By the by, in case anyone is curious about what Ninja Theory is up to these days, they're working on the combat system for Disney Infinity 3.0 They're also working on Hell Blade (which despite the name has nothing to do with Heavenly Sword). I vaguely recall them talking about its development as experimental - trying to lower the cost of production by having only 16 or so people working on it, while still have triple A production quality. Or some such.
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I feel like ninja theory making DmC was an insanely missed opportunity. Because they should've made a new onimusha game instead. Series was always trying to be cinematic and flashy first and being a fun swordfighting game was always a distant second, which is the exact same philosophy that made heavenly sword. Having to make a game about samurai stabbing demon samurai and not over the top anime man dante flipping out and insulting people would probably result in way better writing/animation quality than DmC got, too.
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Jul 4, 2015 00:03
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darealkooky posted:I feel like ninja theory making DmC was an insanely missed opportunity. That, and it would be potentially reviving a dormant franchise. Not trying to strangle an active, and still profitable one. Yeah, Onimusha would have been a good fit for NT.
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Jul 4, 2015 00:14
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darealkooky posted:I feel like ninja theory making DmC was an insanely missed opportunity. This is exactly what I said when the game was coming out. Onimusha would have been a WAY better fit for them.
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Wait, am I to understand that if you play as Vergil and play like his boss fights, he gets stronger? Like walking and sheathing his sword and stuff like that is an actual game mechanic? I need to buy DMC4. I loved 3. Thought the reboot was mediocre. Might as well give DMC4 a shot. It's gotta be cheap by now, right?
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SonicRulez posted:Wait, am I to understand that if you play as Vergil and play like his boss fights, he gets stronger? Like walking and sheathing his sword and stuff like that is an actual game mechanic? I need to buy DMC4. I loved 3. Thought the reboot was mediocre. Might as well give DMC4 a shot. It's gotta be cheap by now, right? Yes, his gameplay mechanics are all designed to make you replicate how he fights as a boss. DMC4:SE is $25 which is pretty drat reasonable for the price. You can get the original version way cheaper (like $5 on less during sales) on Steam but... well, get the SE.
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SonicRulez posted:Wait, am I to understand that if you play as Vergil and play like his boss fights, he gets stronger? Like walking and sheathing his sword and stuff like that is an actual game mechanic? I need to buy DMC4. I loved 3. Thought the reboot was mediocre. Might as well give DMC4 a shot. It's gotta be cheap by now, right? It's 25 bucks for the special edition, well worth it too. I'd have grabbed it if the only thing was a faster sprint ability start.
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SonicRulez posted:Wait, am I to understand that if you play as Vergil and play like his boss fights, he gets stronger? Like walking and sheathing his sword and stuff like that is an actual game mechanic? I need to buy DMC4. I loved 3. Thought the reboot was mediocre. Might as well give DMC4 a shot. It's gotta be cheap by now, right?
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I'm not sure I understand Vergil's Trick mechanic. It seems like if I have a Summoned Sword in an enemy, Trick Up gets replaced by Air Trick, even if I'm not holding RB like the movelist says. Is this intended or am I doing something wrong? I haven't played DMC3 Vergil in a hilariously long time.
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Fereydun posted:from my experience so far in ldk as vergil (my only experience): I discovered this playing today the day after I posted. Thanks a lot, though!  darealkooky posted:just found out there`s actually an unlisted spiral sword move Dope. Nice find. I think you're right about Ninja Theory and Onimusha, too. It would be nice to see some activity in that franchise.
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AccountingNightmare posted:I'm not sure I understand Vergil's Trick mechanic. It seems like if I have a Summoned Sword in an enemy, Trick Up gets replaced by Air Trick, even if I'm not holding RB like the movelist says. Is this intended or am I doing something wrong? I haven't played DMC3 Vergil in a hilariously long time. Press the style button to do a trick up. Press the style button while locked on to a grip point or an enemy to do a teleport. That's all there is to it.
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I just insta-killed Savior with Vergil's Distorted Shoryureppa  I am enjoying this pseudo-meta where everything Dante can do in DMC4, Vergil upstages in DMC4:SE
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notZaar posted:Press the style button to do a trick up. Press the style button while locked on to a grip point or an enemy to do a teleport. That's all there is to it. I just double-checked and Vergil was definitely doing Air Trick (teleport to enemy) instead of Trick Up (teleport directly up) with no buttons held. My lock-on button isn't stuck or anything. As soon as the Summoned Sword expired, he went back to doing Trick Up.
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I don't think that has happened to me yet, that don't seem right. I guess in that case you have to DT and start doing trick backs when that happens. It's too bad they restrict that ability to DT only, I guess they found it to be OP during game balancing.
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I didn't realize that changing Dante's costume changes his costume for other characters boss-fighting him too. That kind of owns.AccountingNightmare posted:I just double-checked and Vergil was definitely doing Air Trick (teleport to enemy) instead of Trick Up (teleport directly up) with no buttons held. My lock-on button isn't stuck or anything. As soon as the Summoned Sword expired, he went back to doing Trick Up. Yeah, a summoned sword changes your target to whoever it is impaled in. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jul 4, 2015 |
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AccountingNightmare posted:I just double-checked and Vergil was definitely doing Air Trick (teleport to enemy) instead of Trick Up (teleport directly up) with no buttons held. My lock-on button isn't stuck or anything. As soon as the Summoned Sword expired, he went back to doing Trick Up. Even the regular shoot button summoned swords will mark a target and change Trick Up to Air Trick. EDIT: Also, Vergil is now my title screen voice. Neat. EDIT EDIT: Trish's S rank taunt blows a kiss that does damage. Amazing. Brutakas fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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ImpAtom posted:I didn't realize that changing Dante's costume changes his costume for other characters boss-fighting him too. That kind of owns. Brutakas posted:Even the regular shoot button summoned swords will mark a target and change Trick Up to Air Trick. Thanks! This is a shame; I thought Trick Up was going to be really useful for avoiding damage, but I have to remember to either stop using Summoned Swords or keep a stock of Trigger handy for Trick Down. It's a bit more effort than the other characters.
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Brutakas posted:EDIT EDIT: Trish's S rank taunt blows a kiss that does damage. Amazing. vergil has a taunt where he spins a tiny summoned sword on his finger like a frisbee that also does damage
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darealkooky posted:vergil has a taunt where he spins a tiny summoned sword on his finger like a frisbee that also does damage I'm having a hell of a time deciding which of these two is the best taunt in the entire series
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darealkooky posted:vergil has a taunt where he spins a tiny summoned sword on his finger like a frisbee that also does damage The "show me your motivation" also does damage.
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toasterwarrior posted:I'm having a hell of a time deciding which of these two is the best taunt in the entire series Sorry, Nero's Air guitar is still the best.
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Hel posted:Sorry, Nero's Air guitar is still the best. But you can juggle dudes with Vergil's spinny sword!!!
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toasterwarrior posted:But you can juggle dudes with Vergil's spinny sword!!! Sure, but that doesn't magically play a guitar solo. BTW Can anyone read Agnus notepad? I can make out "Nero=Dante=???" as a headline but I wonder if there is actually more text on it.
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How many demons do you need to kill to unlock the EX colors? I got 20+ but that wasn't enough. I didn't feel as though I was slow either.
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notZaar posted:How many demons do you need to kill to unlock the EX colors? I got 20+ but that wasn't enough. I didn't feel as though I was slow either. I was able to get it after 30 with Vergil.
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I'm having a bit of trouble with Vergil. I can get AT enemies, but getting away from them is really hard. Like, with the fight with Berial, he'll wind up for his big "I'm gonna blow everything up" attack, and I can't figure out how to ever get away in time. The only time I haven't been hit was when I just happened to be really far already. Is the only real defensive option that Vergil has just kinda include ground rolling? Edit: I got the EX Vergil costume with exactly 30 kills. At the end screen, it says "You got 30+ kills!" so I think that's the bare minimum.
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Yeah, for Lady and Trish it's 20 but for Vergil it's 30. Took me like a dozen tries to get it, you just want to revolve entirely around staying motivated and getting enough DT for Judgement Cut End.
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