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I like that all the racist rear end in a top hat shitposters have come out of the woodwork in this thread, with their sad and angry responses trying to show they don't care while simultaneously being very upset. Maybe America should overhaul it's education system so that a) individual states aren't twisting events to serve their political views, b) ridiculous myths about the history of America stop spreading around, and c) so that your country can stop tearing itself apart from a Clash of the ignoramuses See I think we should just ban thoughts and work in a perfectly harmonious hive but some people think that's "inhumane" but if it's so inhumane why do bugs do it huh??
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:10 |
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jBrereton posted:They should rename it the General Sherman, imo. Yeah, that would have been funnier than General Grant dammit! If you preview your post, it loses the attachment
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:11 |
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Axolotl posted:Yeah, that would have been funnier than General Grant
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:12 |
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Also literally every white settler nation was founded on the racist cultural destruction of the native peoples at best, with attempted genocide at worst. Did you know natives in Canada couldn't vote until the 70s? And yet these native groups were surprisingly supportive in fighting for the crown during WWI and WWII but all that white people talk about is how throwing some money at the bands is the best way to make up for generational trauma. AND HOW THEY DONT DESERVE IT ANYWAY THE FREEBOOTERS
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:14 |
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ninotoreS posted:Abe Lincoln was prominently anti-slavery. As a senator, he had severely opposed it being legalized in the territories, and he openly allied with abolitionists in the Republican party after the Whig party died. Congress blocked him from doing it though I was like hooooly poo poo but yeah you're right, too.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:18 |
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The south should have been allowed to secede imo
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:22 |
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lmbo all you pasty nerds getting upset at hillbillies and their flag youre both fags
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:23 |
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Bacon Hat posted:states rights lol
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:24 |
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Want to read an alt history book wherr the League of Nations forms early and sends in peacekeeprrs so the civil war never concludes but instead festers for years
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:26 |
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Omi-Polari posted:I'm reading Battle Cry of Freedom and there's a moment before Lincoln's election when the Democrat-appointed War Minister (the Secretary of Defense today) wanted to move hundreds of cannons from the North to the South because he knew what was coming and prepared to jump ship. History is fun and should be learned.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:28 |
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I've learned most of my American history from the Bioshock games and it seems like the truth is in the middle??
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:38 |
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Eumenides posted:I've learned most of my American history from the Bioshock games and it seems like the truth is in the middle??
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:40 |
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burritolingus posted:History is fun and should be learned.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:41 |
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gently caress the ROW posted:lmao larry the cable guy predicted this a decade ago The prophecies are being fulfilled.....
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:44 |
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Maldoror posted:The Civil War was caused be the invention of the cotton gin, which allowed white landowners to start up a plantation with way less slaves so therefore way less money. The big plantations lobbied congress to impose tariffs on the ownership of slaves not because slavery was wrong, but because it cut into their business. This was done after enough smaller plantations were set up in the South that they just refused to pay the tariffs, so the war started. I don't think the state saying "yeah, we aren't going to fly the flag any more on government properties" or it becoming really taboo "erases history." Here's why: displaying the Nazi flag in Germany is a crime, it's taboo to display it in basically every country, yet Hitler history is the most popular history there is.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 16:52 |
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that's true but it'll be pretty lol when the S.C. legislature replaces it with the .... bonnie blue flag.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:04 |
Eumenides posted:Also literally every white settler nation was founded on the racist cultural destruction of the native peoples at best, with attempted genocide at worst. Did you know natives in Canada couldn't vote until the 70s? And yet these native groups were surprisingly supportive in fighting for the crown during WWI and WWII but all that white people talk about is how throwing some money at the bands is the best way to make up for generational trauma.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:12 |
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kids love dressing up as hitler because it is verboten.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:13 |
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The Mad Max interceptor was a better car
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:15 |
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jBrereton posted:The First Nations population does not typically see The Crown and The Canadian Government in the same light, hth. Well obvi but they still acted in goodwill typically up until the Victorian period and the beginning of the shitshow that was the Riel Rebellion Plus God drat it if you're gonna put a monarch on a coin and base your entire government around fealty to it then you'd think they'd take that poo poo a bit more seriously
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:18 |
Eumenides posted:Well obvi but they still acted in goodwill typically up until the Victorian period
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:25 |
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jesus christ who gives a gently caress about canada.. probably not even canadians
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:25 |
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gently caress the ROW posted:jesus christ who gives a gently caress about canada.. probably not even canadians Who gives a gently caress about the ROW huh??
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:26 |
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Didn't just as many injustices and cruelties happen under the British flag Arguing about flags is stupid, argue about Star Trek instead
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:41 |
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Eumenides posted:Who gives a gently caress about the ROW huh?? I say gently caress the ROW, and you as well, friendo
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:47 |
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lol i think its dumb but its similar to germany's own stance on the nazi flag so ... this isnt unprecedented
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 17:50 |
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Prorat posted:Be real, people against this flag want it banned from being flow or being sold completely. Totally false. I strongly support free speech and the right of non-government institutions and people to manufacture, own, sell, buy, and display the flag. I just don't want any governments, federal, state, or local, to be complicit. Every other non-idiot I've met agrees that this is a reasonable stance on the issue. Amarcarts fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jul 6, 2015 |
# ? Jul 6, 2015 18:11 |
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Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:
you can tell thats a troll because Kevin Underwood is that one sort-of-goon who chopped up and tried to eat some 9 year old girl http://downloads.newsok.com/documents/Underwoodvideotapetranscript.pdf
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 18:16 |
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Amarcarts posted:Totally false. I strongly support free speech and the right of non-government institutions and people to manufacture, own, sell, buy, and display the flag. I just don't want any governments, federal, state, or local, to be complicit. what you want is not what every one wants, but you are completely reasonable and this is how it should have always been. *and obviously it's a non issue what retailers decide to do
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 18:18 |
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Has anyone made the incredibly insightful point that the political parties were different back then as if that has any impact on what it means to be a democrat or republican in 2015 yet.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 18:27 |
Ramsus posted:yes the portland metro area of oregon, i twirl my ironic mustache in delight "When Oregon was granted statehood in 1859, it was the only state in the Union admitted with a constitution that forbade black people from living, working, or owning property there. It was illegal for black people even to move to the state until 1926. Oregon's founding is part of the forgotten history of racism in the American west." Oregon was founded as a racist utopia
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 19:33 |
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akasnowmaaan posted:"When Oregon was granted statehood in 1859, it was the only state in the Union admitted with a constitution that forbade black people from living, working, or owning property there. It was illegal for black people even to move to the state until 1926. Oregon's founding is part of the forgotten history of racism in the American west." Oregon is the shame of the west coast. I think people only stop there when they forget to buy gas before crossing the border. People there are too stupid to pump their own gas too so you have to let some pasty nerd take an extra 10 minutes trying to figure out how to unscrew the gascap before you can fill up and get the gently caress out of there. Hobohemian fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jul 6, 2015 |
# ? Jul 6, 2015 19:36 |
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Oregon: 'Taint California, 'Taint Washington, Just 'Taint.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 19:38 |
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can't we just let go of our terrible racist past and focus on our terrible racist present
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 20:53 |
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Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:can't we just let go of our terrible racist past and focus on our terrible racist present
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 20:57 |
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Strudel Man posted:Can't we just return our terrible racist present for store credit terrible racist store credit, at the terrible racist present store.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 22:18 |
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Burnout Paradise had a Cavalry made the color of the General Lee but with a Mexican flag on top.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 22:59 |
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I would just like to pop in to suggest or second that the ol' General Lee needs to repainted a darker blue than the Grant and named the General Sherman. It also needs flames along the sides. Better than this just being more stupid flailing at bad flag by far. War is hell.
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 23:00 |
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burn south repopulate with carpetbaggers
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 23:01 |
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Eumenides posted:I like that all the racist rear end in a top hat shitposters have come out of the woodwork in this thread, with their sad and angry responses trying to show they don't care while simultaneously being very upset. more advice from some foreign know it all suck it chump
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# ? Jul 6, 2015 23:04 |