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What was determined to make a good race from the first Drivers' Council meeting?quote:"I think so. NASCAR I think wants pack racing and drafting and passing. Tons of passing, tons, tons - if they could pass every straightaway at speed that would a great show for NASCAR, which it would be great to watch," Earnhardt said. http://thatsracinluckydog.blogspot.com/2015/07/first-topic-at-first-nascar-drivers.html
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Solution: Make Cup cars based on current GT cars. Mustang, Camaro and Challenger based. Tell Toyota they can use a Camry with the current NASCAR spec V8, but in 5 years time must have a new GT class RWD V8 car or they can pound sand. 358c.i. limit, OHV 2 valve per cylinder engines. Chevy, Ford and Dodge have 5 years to develop new GT cars if they think they can make a better platform. You get new stuff relevant from the companies, you drop speeds by about 20mph and you make tires that wear out. Bam, NASCAR is good again
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Jul 18, 2015 16:47
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Brian France literally wants pack racing at every track, I know I saw a quote from him after Kentucky saying this.
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Indianapolis is going to be hilarious if this aero package works as intended and hilarious if it doesn't also. I can't wait for the Brickyard.
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Jul 18, 2015 17:40
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VikingSkull posted:Solution: Make Cup cars based on current GT cars. Mustang, Camaro and Challenger based. Tell Toyota they can use a Camry with the current NASCAR spec V8, but in 5 years time must have a new GT class RWD V8 car or they can pound sand. 358c.i. limit, OHV 2 valve per cylinder engines. Chevy, Ford and Dodge have 5 years to develop new GT cars if they think they can make a better platform. You get new stuff relevant from the companies, you drop speeds by about 20mph and you make tires that wear out. Bam, NASCAR is good again I'm down with this. Toyota could always go to Lexus and develop a successor to the LFA with those specs. Change the V10 to a V8 and little more styling cues to the big 3s pony cars.
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VikingSkull posted:Solution: Make Cup cars based on current GT cars. Mustang, Camaro and Challenger based. Tell Toyota they can use a Camry with the current NASCAR spec V8, but in 5 years time must have a new GT class RWD V8 car or they can pound sand. 358c.i. limit, OHV 2 valve per cylinder engines. Chevy, Ford and Dodge have 5 years to develop new GT cars if they think they can make a better platform. You get new stuff relevant from the companies, you drop speeds by about 20mph and you make tires that wear out. Bam, NASCAR is good again I kind of felt that keeping cup cars the way they were was the way to go, but let me say I'd push this type of idea to replace the XFS series with the muscle car concept and make it exclusively road course based. Cup should be Sedans, focused on Speedways. XFS should be Muscle Cars, focused on Road Courses Trucks should be Trucks, focused on Short Tracks I still feel Toyota is an awkward fit within stock cars, but you know what? I've heard the other side of it, and I definitely get why they want to be there. They do want to be very much  -based in philosophy in terms of being involved with NASCAR. I do get it. (I'd be intrigued if they did return to Sports Car racing in the States though. I feel they're missing out on something there). I WOULD like to see Dodge back in Cup. I wish Pontiac was still alive though  .
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Jul 18, 2015 17:59
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Jul 18, 2015 18:15
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Tesla is 100% American...
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Jul 18, 2015 18:17
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Jul 18, 2015 18:24
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mearn posted:Indianapolis is going to be hilarious if this aero package works as intended and hilarious if it doesn't also. I can't wait for the Brickyard. I always go out of my way to watch at least a bit of the Brickyard now, just because seeing how bad the racing and crowd are is perversely entertaining to me. Though I wouldn't be surprised if it drew a little better this year since a lot of the local advertising is about it being Gordon's last.
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Jul 18, 2015 18:31
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A major point of stock car racing used to be "Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday", correct? Via dividing the three series based on different types of models and different disciplines, you allow yourself just that. It's why the Truck Series is still very much a good idea in that regard, (that and it produces good racing). The point of the drat thing should be the ability to market how your cars look to consumers. Hell maybe Toyota could use a revamped Celica in the Muscle Car division? Just a thought.
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FuzzySkinner posted:A major point of stock car racing used to be "Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday", correct? No millennial on the planet is gonna be drawn to that line of thinking. Not when less people give a poo poo about cars than ever before and when other companies/ad agencies who have nothing to do with the sport are making GBS threads themselves over how different their consumer habits are and how to market to them.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:No millennial on the planet is gonna be drawn to that line of thinking. Not when less people give a poo poo about cars than ever before and when other companies/ad agencies who have nothing to do with the sport are making GBS threads themselves over how different their consumer habits are and how to market to them. No millennial on earth really gives a poo poo about auto racing except people like us at this point. So the point is going to be even more moot regardless. I mean NASCAR at this point has to realize that the only people that are going to be left going to their races in the near future are going to be hardcore fans, auto racing enthusiasts and the occasional curious on looker. It's just a thought really. I don't know, I love seeing stock cars run road courses, and to have a series devoted to that would be really, really cool in my opinion.
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Jul 18, 2015 18:45
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Great job nuking your entire argument there.
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Jul 18, 2015 18:47
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Great job nuking your entire argument there. Meh. It's theorycrafting. There's a lot of poo poo I'd really like to see that ain't gonna happen any time soon, if ever.
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Jul 18, 2015 18:50
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there's no way you're baiting me into a road vs oval argument here
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Jul 18, 2015 19:22
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Brian Scott just kaboomed
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ayn rand hand job posted:Brian Scott just kaboomed The only question left now is which Buschwacker wins.
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Jul 18, 2015 22:53
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Hamlin made everyone mad. Everyone.
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All is right in the NASCAR world again: Kyle Busch is pouting like a bitch over a 4th place finish in a race which is meaningless to him. Ok, I've gone off the deep end. Taking a page out of LASTCAR's book, I'm going to start keeping track of the NXS Best In Class because I'm genuinely interested in who's done the best out of Xfinity regulars. This week's winner, which will make maffewbuildings happy, is  DANIEL SUAREZ . It's Suarez' third win of the season!This follows (actual finish in parenthesis. Erik Jones does not count.): -Daytona- Ryan Reed (OVERALL WINNER!) -Atlanta- Ty Dillon (3rd) -LVMS- Ryan "Man Without A Series" Blaney (2nd) -Phoenix- Ty Dillon (6th) -California- Brendan Gaughan (2nd) -Texas- Regan Smith (4th) -Bristol- Daniel Suarez (2nd) -Richmond- Regan Smith (3rd) -Talladega- Brian Scott (2nd because God hates us all) -Iowa- Chris Buescher (OVERALL WINNER!) -Charlotte- Regan Smith (5th) -Dover- Chris Buescher (OVERALL WINNER!) -Michigan- Chase Elliott (2nd, how'd it take him so long to show up on this list god drat) -Chicagoland- Ryan "Man Without A Series" Blaney (2nd) -Daytona- Elliott Sadler (2nd) -Kentucky- Daniel Suarez (4th) -NHMS- Daniel Suarez (5th)
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Am I reading that right in that only roush drivers have been the only full time winners this year? Lol
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Possibly Chicken posted:Am I reading that right in that only roush drivers have been the only full time winners this year? Lol Yes. And one of the better drivers in the last few weeks has been RCR's Brian Scott, on another team that hasn't done poo poo in Cup this year.
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VikingSkull posted:hey Kid Rock loves his stars and bars Dude's from the sticks, over an hour from Detroit, so yeah.  That's the entire 'downtown' Romeo. Its a poo poo area where everyone meets at the Tractor Supply Co for Saturday brunch. There's not even any good tracks nearby.
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Jul 19, 2015 00:11
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It's 3AM at Eldora and they're about to start the Main.
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The Kings Royal is no joke
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mearn posted:Indianapolis is going to be hilarious if this aero package works as intended and hilarious if it doesn't also. I can't wait for the Brickyard. Jimmie Johnson one-ups Jeff Burton by leading all 163 laps, including a GWC.
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Daytona's got nothing on Eldora, apparently. Also, Denny Hamlin's mom tweeted this is the last race for his merchandise trailer. His stuff will be combined into a trailer with other drivers at Indy, with everything going to megatents at Pocono and beyond. e- Hey, Adam Sandler is today's Grand Marshal because there is no God. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQUipdid7_c Fun fact! My brother knew I was at that race and immediately texted me "What the gently caress was that?" after seeing that. 
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From the WTF Files:
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LASTCAR posted:Jimmie Johnson one-ups Jeff Burton by leading all 163 laps, including a GWC. Insha'allah
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Jul 19, 2015 17:04
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Kyle Busch is going to win all the races and not make the chase. Or make the chase and then instantly poo poo the bed
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The Croc posted:Kyle Busch is going to win all the races and not make the chase. Just like every year hes been in the chase!
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The Croc posted:Kyle Busch is going to win all the races and not make the chase.
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So next week will be my first race ever, sadly at Indy. What are the must do's/don'ts and all that poo poo. We got the family passes so we get to go to like A, H and vista I think.
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Jul 19, 2015 21:47
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That pass by Kyle, though.
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Casey Mears has been invisible this year, save for being one car away from missing the Daytona 500, and is 20th in points. There is a bit of a gap between the haves and have-nots this year.
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PatrickBateman posted:So next week will be my first race ever, sadly at Indy. What are the must do's/don'ts and all that poo poo. Don't go.
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PatrickBateman posted:So next week will be my first race ever, sadly at Indy. What are the must do's/don'ts and all that poo poo. We got the family passes so we get to go to like A, H and vista I think. Go to the MotoGP race 2 weeks after instead, you'll have much more fun.
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PatrickBateman posted:So next week will be my first race ever, sadly at Indy. What are the must do's/don'ts and all that poo poo. We got the family passes so we get to go to like A, H and vista I think. At Indy? Go to the museum, Go to the Mug N'Bun for some root beers.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Go to the MotoGP race 2 weeks after instead, you'll have much more fun. I'm kind of excited about the rumored WEC weekend there to be honest. MotoGP also sounds like a blast.
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FuzzySkinner posted:At Indy? I think he'll need more than root beer.
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