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Alter Ego posted:Took 7 years, but that'd be a campaign promise kept, wouldn't it? He did say day one but yeah at least that would be done. Kind of will feel a bit like closure. Between tying loose ends from the Bush administration as well as his own Obama's administration seems to have been pretty good.
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EugeneJ posted:NY just approved $15/hr minimum wage for fast food workers!!!... NY state or NYC? Gravel Gravy posted:He did say day one but yeah at least that would be done. Kind of will feel a bit like closure. History's going to be pretty kind to his legacy I think.
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mcmagic posted:I'm just not as convinced as many here are that Hillary's plunging likability and trustworthiness numbers can just be glossed over. Well, post multiple polls from different sources that definitively show this trend and people will take it more seriously.
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mcmagic posted:I'm just not as convinced as many here are that Hillary's plunging likability and trustworthiness numbers can just be glossed over. yes please keep posting this every page or so
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Also, Trump has responded to Perry.  I'm sorry to everyone when I said nothing could ever top Herman "pokemaster" Cain.
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EugeneJ posted:NY just approved $15/hr minimum wage for fast food workers!!!... Will it at least index to inflation after that? ^^^^^^ owned
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this_is_hard posted:yes please keep posting this every page or so Repetition works for Fox News though.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Well, post multiple polls from different sources that definitively show this trend and people will take it more seriously. http://time.com/3904698/hillary-clinton-2016-presidential-race-poll/ http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/politics/poll-2016-elections-hillary-clinton-trustworthy/ http://nypost.com/2015/04/23/majority-of-voters-think-hillary-is-untrustworthy-poll/ They aren't hard to find...
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mcmagic posted:I'm just not as convinced as many here are that Hillary's plunging likability and trustworthiness numbers can just be glossed over.  this isn't even subtle.
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mcmagic posted:I'm just not as convinced as many here are that Hillary's plunging likability and trustworthiness numbers can just be glossed over. Has she done anything since her second 'this is my actual launch' announcement?
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Jul 22, 2015 20:45
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:NY state or NY City NY State wage must be $15 by 2021, NYC wage must be $15 by 2018 Only applies to fast food chains with 30 or more stores
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Jul 22, 2015 20:46
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mcmagic posted:http://time.com/3904698/hillary-clinton-2016-presidential-race-poll/ Hmm, this thing that was well predicted to happen. I can't believe it's happening. I should draw the wrong conclusions from it and keep posting about it repeatedly, despite multiple explaining to me why I am being stupid as gently caress.
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Jul 22, 2015 20:46
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EugeneJ posted:NY State wage must be $15 by 2021, NYC wage must be $15 by 2018 So I expect to see a lot of McDowells and Burger Monarchs opening in NY.
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Jul 22, 2015 20:47
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Hmm, this thing that was well predicted to happen. I can't believe it's happening. I should draw the wrong conclusions from it and keep posting about it repeatedly, despite multiple explaining to me why I am being stupid as gently caress. It didn't just happen by accident... IDK why your conclusion that this doesn't matter is any more valid than mine that it might.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Also, Trump has responded to Perry. At first glance Perry looks like he's kinda fake smiling but after a second it starts to look like barely hidden discomfort.
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Jul 22, 2015 20:49
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Jewel Repetition posted:I'm an MRA and Yeah, we're done here.
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Jul 22, 2015 20:49
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:NY state or NYC? First black president. He was always going to end up with a hagiography in the popular consciousness and a zillion memorials once we got a generation out.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Also, Trump has responded to Perry. If you want a picture of this primary imagine Donald Trump breaking the GOP's spine over his knee, forever.
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Fried Chicken posted:First black president. He was always going to end up with a hagiography in the popular consciousness and a zillion memorials once we got a generation out. I don't know about that The chances went up a lot once he won a second term though, that was a big closer.
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Does anyone else think "Trumpism" seems an awful lot like fascism?
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Sinteres posted:Does anyone else think "Trumpism" seems an awful lot like fascism? Less so than modern conservatism, Trump hasn't advocated wars and internment camps
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Raskolnikov38 posted:If you want a picture of this primary imagine Donald Trump breaking the GOP's spine over his knee, forever. Stop, my penis can only get so erect.
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Sinteres posted:Does anyone else think "Trumpism" seems an awful lot like fascism? Let's see if he starts talking about camps before we throw that label on him. Right now it just seems like a mish-mash of really crazy half-baked ideas than any sort of political theory.
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Fried Chicken posted:Less so than modern conservatism, Trump hasn't advocated wars and internment camps Some of the anti-immigration stuff definitely plays into the same racial resentments that led to internment camps, and he's absolutely advocated for wars.
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Sinteres posted:Some of the anti-immigration stuff definitely plays into the same racial resentments that led to internment camps, and he's absolutely advocated for wars. He advocated for plundering Iraq after we were in there, but 2003-2004 he was opposed to the war. And "plays into the same resentments" is a vast gulf from General Clarke advocating internment camps outright last week. But let's go ahead and grant that you are correct, then the issue is there is zero difference between Trumpism and conservatism so they are both fascist
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Jul 22, 2015 20:58
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What is the plan to close gitmo? Every appropriations bill has banned money being spent on shutting it down or prisoners being transferred to prisons on the mainland. Have they just found someone to take the last few people still left there? Per Josh Ernest if the next NDAA mandates Gitmo be kept open, Obama will veto it
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Gravel Gravy posted:Funny but I don't like Graham enough to spread his video like he hopes people will. You said, quoting and thus reposting the link. I think the USA has perfected political hilarity and drama without just resorting to parliament brawls or actual violent revolutions.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What is the plan to close gitmo? Every appropriations bill has banned money being spent on shutting it down or prisoners being transferred to prisons on the mainland. Have they just found someone to take the last few people still left there? I guess I'll take them if no one else will.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I'm an MRA 
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Gravel Gravy posted:So I expect to see a lot of McDowells and Burger Monarchs opening in NY. "They got the Golden Arches, mine is the Golden Arcs." 
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mcmagic posted:It didn't just happen by accident... IDK why your conclusion that this doesn't matter is any more valid than mine that it might. Everyone already knew her favorables and "trustworthiness" would tick down once the campaign actually got going. What I, and others, have explained to you is that you don't understand how to interpret the information being given to you and that you're drawing really stupid conclusions from bad information. I am not sure how much more this can be hammered home to you. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Like if Obama had lost in 2012 I imagine you'd be seeing Romney inherit the predicted bump in the economy regardless of who became president and we'd be seeing instead an inevitable Romney second term or at best a very competitive race between Romney and Clinton trying to top each other in selling themselves as the candidate that is nothing like Obama. Obama would be a footnote, a "yeah we elected a black guy racism was over" in history books but be regarded somewhere below Carter.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I'm an MRA and I don't think Hillary in the white house would have any negative effect on the movement. I'm glad the MRAs weren't planning any sexual assaults against Hillary that would only be stopped by White House security.
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Alter Ego posted:"They got the Golden Arches, mine is the Golden Arcs." In Managua when McDonalds pulled the franchise out of the one in the big mall during the Sandinsta reign, they called it Donalds and served the same food, but with Bulgarian materials.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:In Managua when McDonalds pulled the franchise out of the one in the big mall during the Sandinsta reign, they called it Donalds and served the same food, but with Bulgarian materials. Those poor people. 
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EugeneJ posted:NY State wage must be $15 by 2021, NYC wage must be $15 by 2018 Is that in 2015 dollars or nominal?
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I know it's been explained a dozen times ITT over like the past day, but even if Hillary vs Walker/Rubio/Bush had turnout for Hillary super-low and turnout for the Republican as high as ever, it would still be very very hard for them to win, right?
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EugeneJ posted:NY State wage must be $15 by 2021, NYC wage must be $15 by 2018 Also, it's phased in, so there are increases each year on the way to 15 (though I couldn't find details on the exact phasing.)
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