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ZeusJupitar
Jul 7, 2009
Did nobody think to ask the accuser why she wasn't covered in scratches from the broken glass?

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Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

boom boom boom posted:

Why is she dressed like a sailor.

She was never in the military.

Because she wants to get a motorboat.

GopherFlats
Mar 16, 2011

Ransom posted:

Hey remember when Rolling Stone put a guy on the cover after he murdered an 8 year old boy? Rock and roll am i rite?

Wait, what? Are you talking about the Boston marathon bomber or someone completely different?

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

hosed up if true or false

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

Powercrazy posted:

My favorite part about this was the D&D thread where people that had any modicum of critical thinking skills were immediately calling bullshit, and then were accused of being "rape apologists." Then lo and behold the obviously fake story was fake, but it was still important to "raise awareness."

raising awareness of their myriad of mental dysfunctions

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

Powercrazy posted:

Actually I take it back. My favorite part was after the story was thoroughly and completely discredited, Rolling Stone blamed Jackie calling her "a really expert fabulist storyteller", and added, "obviously there is something here that is untruthful, and something sits at her doorstep."

:lol:

The journalist's career history is amazing. Largely based on sensationalist rape reporting, already involved in a controversy over uncritically presenting another dubious gang rape story. While still studying rolling stone awarded her a college writing award for an article on a musician which turned out to be almost entirely wrong. Clearly someone who could only be fooled by a really expert fabulist storyteller.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Moon Atari posted:

The journalist's career history is amazing. Largely based on sensationalist rape reporting, already involved in a controversy over uncritically presenting another dubious gang rape story. While still studying rolling stone awarded her a college writing award for an article on a musician which turned out to be almost entirely wrong. Clearly someone who could only be fooled by a really expert fabulist storyteller.

It's not poor journalism, its just Rape-Fan-Fiction!

Hadaka Apron
Feb 12, 2015

Xaris posted:

matt taibibi was good

He repeatedly molested his female employees while running an alt-weekly in Moscow.

quote:

"You're always trying to force Masha and Sveta under the table to give you blow jobs," complains their first business manager, an American woman, in chapter six, "The White God Factor." "It's not funny. They don't think it's funny." "But...it is funny," replies Taibbi.

https://books.google.com/books?id=E...unny%22&f=false

I don't understand why almost no one has called him out for this.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Cool NIN Shirt posted:

Yah obviously she's gonna look worse but gently caress I don't care... she's built like a pornstar

What lovely fatty porn are you watching

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

ZeusJupitar posted:

Did nobody think to ask the accuser why she wasn't covered in scratches from the broken glass?
wow sounds like you're QUESTIONING the victim she is in a very vulnerable place please dont trigger her by seeking facts

Ransom
Jan 8, 2001

JOLLY RAPIST

GopherFlats posted:

Wait, what? Are you talking about the Boston marathon bomber or someone completely different?

Boston Bomber. I know he also killed like 4 other people as well.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

quote:

George Elias IV, Stephen Hadford and Ross Fowler

at least one part of the story checks out. these are some rich frat guy names

whoflungpoop
Sep 9, 2004

With you and the constellations

The Saurus posted:

feminists try to form an alliance with beta boys against the chads, but it doesn't work because secretly the betas just want to be able to gently caress drunk girls and get away with it like the chads do, even though they hate them for being more successful with women than them.
sorry can u please elaborate? it sounds like something that i could completely agree with but im unfamiliar with the details behind the alliance u mentioned

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

Hadaka Apron posted:

He repeatedly molested his female employees while running an alt-weekly in Moscow.


https://books.google.com/books?id=E...unny%22&f=false

I don't understand why almost no one has called him out for this.

Is that the worst of it? -shrug-

He's a really good journalist.

a retard
Jan 7, 2013

by Lowtax

Moon Atari posted:

The journalist's career history is amazing. Largely based on sensationalist rape reporting, already involved in a controversy over uncritically presenting another dubious gang rape story. While still studying rolling stone awarded her a college writing award for an article on a musician which turned out to be almost entirely wrong. Clearly someone who could only be fooled by a really expert fabulist storyteller.

at this point i'm assuming that "jackie" was made up as well

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Powercrazy posted:

Actually I take it back. My favorite part was after the story was thoroughly and completely discredited, Rolling Stone blamed Jackie calling her "a really expert fabulist storyteller", and added, "obviously there is something here that is untruthful, and something sits at her doorstep."

:lol:

Yeah, it was Duke 2003 all over again. Even cautioning "Hey, this sounds pretty sensational, maybe its not 100% true" was met with accusations of being a MRA rape apologist.

Especially the part with the (while on the broken glass) the entire frat was surrounding the rape and cheering it on, while the one guy who weakly opposes it is screamed and at called a pussy until he also rapes her.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jul 30, 2015

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.

Cool NIN Shirt posted:

Yah obviously she's gonna look worse but gently caress I don't care... she's built like a pornstar

wait is she not a porn star?

people say the forums are dead (and often gay) but i declare these forums very much alive as long as i'm still learning new things and sometimes having a laugh with my buds (not in this thread obv because as i said, rape is definitely bad and not for laughs)

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
Sometimes rapes are funny like when they never actually happend for example.

Dead Boy
Jul 30, 2015

by Cowcaster
I hope this lovely notoriously racist magazine goes out of business once and for all. Stuff like this gives fuel to misogynist. That's why women who lie about being raped should receive swift firm but fair punishment.

Thots and Prayers
Jul 13, 2006

A is the for the atrocious abominated acts that YOu committed. A is also for ass-i-nine, eight, seven, and six.

B, b, b - b is for your belligerent, bitchy, bottomless state of affairs, but why?

C is for the cantankerous condition of our character, you have no cut-out.
Grimey Drawer
http://www.metafilter.com/144666/Campus-rape

The Metafilter thread is pretty entertaining. It touches on all the points: trigger warnings, frat hate, kill all men accused of rape, how dare you question this story, not sure what happened but some kind of trauma must have happened, Jackie is the real victim here.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
There was a pretty lol thread in DnD

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Hadaka Apron posted:

He repeatedly molested his female employees while running an alt-weekly in Moscow.


https://books.google.com/books?id=E...unny%22&f=false

I don't understand why almost no one has called him out for this.

Yeah but we got the War Nerd from that weekly so it's all good.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Dead Boy posted:

I hope this lovely notoriously racist magazine goes out of business once and for all. Stuff like this gives fuel to misogynist. That's why women who lie about being raped should receive swift firm but fair punishment.

Well, the lawsuit from the Asc. Dean accused of deliberately botching the investigation is in the scope of $7 millions, a reasonable sum given what was said, and the 3 fraternity members are asking for $75k each, and the fraternity itself could get involved in suing RS and Erdely to the tune of millions.

Basically, unless RS has a warchest of $5-10 million to pay out lawsuits they probably won't make it to 2018.

Miltank posted:

There was a pretty lol thread in DnD

Can someone link the thread? I wanted some choice quotes from goons. I remember posting early in the thread but I tried to take a semi-measured tone asserting that the girl was probably raped but the details seemed sketchy.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Powercrazy posted:

Actually I take it back. My favorite part was after the story was thoroughly and completely discredited, Rolling Stone blamed Jackie calling her "a really expert fabulist storyteller", and added, "obviously there is something here that is untruthful, and something sits at her doorstep."

:lol:

It was surreal.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3685497

Every page is completely insane.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Hadaka Apron posted:

He repeatedly molested his female employees while running an alt-weekly in Moscow.


https://books.google.com/books?id=E...unny%22&f=false

I don't understand why almost no one has called him out for this.

You're taking that quote out of context. In the previous paragraph he clearly says they only did it to Russian women.

TEAH SYAG
Oct 2, 2009

by Lowtax
Whelp, biased liberal media will apparently eat itself.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
The entire first page is "frat boys are rapist, kill them all" and "uh, this is literally one single uncorroborated source, that's a massive red flag"

lol I said this at the time

quote:

Plus, I think there are serious legal questions about blatantly calling 6-7 males gang rapists. If there's a court case and they are found not guilty, won't Rolling Stone get slammed with libel suits from the accused? That seems like something the legal dept would want to make absolutely sure they covered their asses on.

The RS legal department is going to get shaken up pretty hard.

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Dead Boy posted:

I hope this lovely notoriously racist magazine goes out of business once and for all. Stuff like this gives fuel to misogynist. That's why women who lie about being raped should receive swift firm but fair punishment.

"I saw what you did," says the black man, "and now you're gonna get what's coming to you".

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
This is an amazing thread and really the perfect example of why the media and our justice system shouldn't mix. Favorite part is the people to the very end of the thread using that same old 'I'm not the courts I don't have to believe they're innocent until proven guilty" argument as if they don't realize the entire reason for that legal setup in the first place is because if you're going to make a mistake it's far worse to punish an innocent person than to not punish a guilty person. It's not just the legal way to handle allegations, it's the ethical way.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

SA would be a better forum if we just got rid of DnD.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Isn't the real answer re-instating prohibition? No alcohol or drugs means 99% of these events won't be occurring.

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

Yep I agree with the doubters, this woman has gained loads of weight and become a total recluse and failed classes on the basis of a fiction she has maintained for years and her story just doesn't add up. I mean, drunken young men, in a deeply misogynistic culture, doing misogynistic things? Totally beyond credibility. I also completely agree that the very fact it seems credible means it should not be believed, that makes total sense and is in no way a bizarre twisting to get out of admitting that there is something deeply sick at the heart of fraternity culture.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

DoctorStrangelove posted:

SA would be a better forum if we just got rid of DnD.

A good post.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

ArbitraryC posted:

This is an amazing thread and really the perfect example of why the media and our justice system shouldn't mix. Favorite part is the people to the very end of the thread using that same old 'I'm not the courts I don't have to believe they're innocent until proven guilty" argument as if they don't realize the entire reason for that legal setup in the first place is because if you're going to make a mistake it's far worse to punish an innocent person than to not punish a guilty person. It's not just the legal way to handle allegations, it's the ethical way.

Also, the falsely-accused should just take one for the team. Their suffering contributes to absolving the Original Sin of rape culture.

Whirlwind Jones
Apr 13, 2013

by Lowtax

Parallax Scroll posted:

Yep I agree with the doubters, this woman has gained loads of weight and become a total recluse and failed classes on the basis of a fiction she has maintained for years and her story just doesn't add up. I mean, drunken young men, in a deeply misogynistic culture, doing misogynistic things? Totally beyond credibility. I also completely agree that the very fact it seems credible means it should not be believed, that makes total sense and is in no way a bizarre twisting to get out of admitting that there is something deeply sick at the heart of fraternity culture.
what

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

It's from the D&D thread :lol:

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

he's quoting the original thread posters.

fwiw the first reply to the thread was "kill all frats" and noted black/white reactionary SedanChair's attitude was "ban all frats".

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3685497&userid=37552

quote:

All fraternities should be abolished (yes, even the black ones).

quote:

Well that's the thing. I didn't know any frats either, because I wasn't interested in spending time with them. They keep to their own, it's kind of incestuous really. I'd like to think that they will die out on their own but I think they could use a push. Then freshmen looking for a social group won't run quite as much risk of being lured into a culture of bullying and substance abuse.

I'm not suggesting they be banned by law, just that they have no association with schools.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

quote:

“Grab its motherfucking leg,” says the first rapist to one of his “brothers.” It reminds me of Silence of the Lambs: “It rubs the lotion on its skin…” But Silence of the Lambs was fiction.

[growing ironicat]

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Murder all fratboys, inshallah

Make the rope from skin of doubters.

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Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
The "grab its leg" line was the farthest I made into the original story before I made a face and started reading it critically.

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