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angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart


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angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Nagato
Apr 26, 2011

Why yes my username is the same as an autistic alien who looks like a 9 year old from an anime, why do ask?
:nyoron:

Hello, are you Chinese?
Yes


idgi

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
this thread is my blog

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

angel opportunity posted:

this thread is my blog

more like rene changs blog

z0glin Warchief
May 16, 2007

waitwhatno posted:

more like rene changs blog

i'm okay with that

z0glin Warchief
May 16, 2007

goldboilermark posted:

I'm reading Evan osnos "age of ambition" and it's good

I also have xinran's "buy me the sky" on my list at some point

Peter hessler also does great books about China

Thanks for the recs! I picked up the kindle version of Age of Ambition, looks pretty good so far.

Shayu
Feb 9, 2014
Five dollars for five words.

Lo l

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party

Jeoh posted:

suggest more good books about modern china please

I liked Michael Meyer's In Manchuria. The northeast is an interesting setting and the author includes a lot of historical anecdotes. One of my favorites was after ransacking the summer palace, the British brought over the first Pekingese dog to the UK and presented it to Queen Victoria. She named him Looty.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Samuel posted:

Working in international schools sure seems like fun if you enjoy other peoples misery.

much like life imo

Teketeketeketeke
Mar 11, 2007


DetroitVectorSmooth posted:

I liked Michael Meyer's In Manchuria. The northeast is an interesting setting and the author includes a lot of historical anecdotes. One of my favorites was after ransacking the summer palace, the British brought over the first Pekingese dog to the UK and presented it to Queen Victoria. She named him Looty.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
That's too awesome to be true. Looty.

aeglus
Jul 13, 2003

WEEK 1 - RETIRED

JaucheCharly posted:

That's too awesome to be true. Looty.

shoulda called it booty

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

DetroitVectorSmooth posted:

I liked Michael Meyer's In Manchuria. The northeast is an interesting setting and the author includes a lot of historical anecdotes. One of my favorites was after ransacking the summer palace, the British brought over the first Pekingese dog to the UK and presented it to Queen Victoria. She named him Looty.

British people shouldn't even feel bad about the looting because it all would have been smashed by the Red Guard anyway.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



goldboilermark posted:



so someone travels to a place for a bit and literally on your social network thing you get 75 pictures of them doing the exact same thing, just dancing around in circles. this is like half of the pictures she posted today. ffs

she has a 12 year old so she's like late 30s. It's insane

chinese ladies really love that "hold a piece of cloth and feel like a pretty heaven princess" thing at the beach

i went to krabi and went island hopping. at least 2 groups of chinese ladies including one with a rainbow-coloured one

the rainbow fell into the ocean, what a grand day

then we went kayaking and a thai guide led a group of ladies of various ages. note i said kayaking. they wore platform shoes and those floaty, wispy dresses. the poor guide had no idea what to do with these crazy ladies trying to kayak in their dresses, and platform shoes

when one of them was going onto a boat she swept the water away with her hand yelling "it's wet," she won't let the guide pull her in the boat because the loving boat in the swamp, a body of water, just refused to be dry

chinese tourists are amazing and horrible, it's great

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

Constant Hamprince posted:

British people shouldn't even feel bad about the looting because it all would have been smashed by the Red Guard anyway.

Yah as a Chinaman born in the Chinas, I say thank god the British saved a bunch of our national treasures.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



introducing the chinese to opium wasn't so hot tho

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The Saddest Rhino posted:

introducing the chinese to opium wasn't so hot tho

fortunately they didn't, opium had been in use in China for like 2000 years by that point. they fed an already extant market

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

The Saddest Rhino posted:

introducing the chinese to opium wasn't so hot tho

You could say the British were 70% good.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I am personally happy the British got Hong Kong out of that unpleasantness. The very existence of Hong Kong hurt Chinese feelings.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

The Saddest Rhino posted:

introducing the chinese to opium wasn't so hot tho

But for 5000 years they wanted to ride a dragon

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Grand Fromage posted:

fortunately they didn't, opium had been in use in China for like 2000 years by that point. they fed an already extant market

b-but my chinese history teachers tell me the evil white gwailo made the pure chinese fall prey to additives~

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Grand Fromage posted:

fortunately they didn't, opium had been in use in China for like 5000 years by that point. they fed an already extant market

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The Saddest Rhino posted:

b-but my chinese history teachers tell me the evil white gwailo made the pure chinese fall prey to additives~

chinese history teachers lied about chinese history? :monocle: :aaaaa: :monocle:

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

The Saddest Rhino posted:

b-but my chinese history teachers tell me the evil white gwailo made the pure chinese fall prey to additives~

China produced like 50% of its own opium during that time period lol

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Yeah the opium war was more about the fact that British merchants from India were undercutting china's own domestic drug dealers.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The only reason the British even had a market was Indian opium was considered the highest quality, so people were willing to buy it over the domestic and Turkish stuff

Samuel
Nov 5, 2011

Grand Fromage posted:

fortunately they didn't, opium had been in use in China for like 2000 years by that point. they fed an already extant market

Patriarchy alert.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


here's a pretty :unsmith: documentary about the kowloon walled city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj_8ucS3lMY

also lol that the junkies had a ranking system

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Just ate a c-cup-sized peach

Adventure Pigeon
Nov 8, 2005

I am a master storyteller.

DetroitVectorSmooth posted:

I liked Michael Meyer's In Manchuria. The northeast is an interesting setting and the author includes a lot of historical anecdotes. One of my favorites was after ransacking the summer palace, the British brought over the first Pekingese dog to the UK and presented it to Queen Victoria. She named him Looty.

Swiggity swooty comin' for dat looty

Filboid Studge
Oct 1, 2010
And while they debated the matter among themselves, Conradin made himself another piece of toast.

I am so very confused that Rene Chang was a senior consultant in the NHS (that's like a senior attending for USians). Either that's not him or the dude has had some sort of breakdown.

That's not to say that medical specialists can't be effective and insane at the same time in fairness.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

Filboid Studge posted:

That's not to say that medical specialists can't be effective and insane at the same time in fairness.

Just look at Ben Carson.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Filboid Studge posted:

I am so very confused that Rene Chang was a senior consultant in the NHS (that's like a senior attending for USians). Either that's not him or the dude has had some sort of breakdown.

That's not to say that medical specialists can't be effective and insane at the same time in fairness.

Reading this recent posts, it sounds like he actually grew up in the UK or has lived there for most of his adult life. It's possible he is really normal seeming in real life and might even be totally rational about like...everything except for China

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

The Saddest Rhino posted:

b-but my chinese history teachers tell me the evil white gwailo made the pure chinese fall prey to additives~

Part of the way Mao funded the Communists during the 30s was by selling opium.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


z0glin Warchief posted:

I don't know how accurate it is, but I just read "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Dragon", which talks about this depth. Basically the idea is that they are hosed for innovation and entrepreneurialism if they don't change the system, but at the same time the system is the foundation of the government's social control and it would not last long if the people were taught how to think critically. The "study your rear end off for years in order to take the one exam that, if you pass it (and only if you pass it; there is no other way around it), gets you all the social benefits and goods jobs" has also been A Thing in China for a really, really long time and is pretty ingrained culturally so it may be quite difficult to change anyway.
(It's obviously way more complicated that this but cut me some slack this is a .jpg thread)

i mean china has been remarkably efficient at throwing away every last vestige of their traditional culture or whatever, so i would hesitate to blame the education system entirely on confucianism. i think there's definitely something there, but to just throw up your hands and say 'welp confucianism what can you do' is pretty lazy IMO and lets modern east asian countries off the hook for their unimaginably awful educational systems too easily

Nagato
Apr 26, 2011

Why yes my username is the same as an autistic alien who looks like a 9 year old from an anime, why do ask?
:nyoron:
I'm on Team Nicki. Rene Chang needs to be stopped before he ogles the bathing beauties again. #notallNHSconsultants

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


bamhand posted:

You could say the British were 70% good.

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angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart


quote:

Levon woked up one day atop of China's Diaoyu Island ,which everyone always know have always belong China over 5 000 year .Well ,anyway , Levon wers the Chinese citizen belong the Diaoyu island chain province , and he already live there long time ,so this weren't some strange thing for he wake up here .Was just the every day life .

He wash the face ,wear the clothes ,and so on ,after this he go outside buy some breakfurst .Because Diaoyu Island Youtiao stall sell South China Sea most famours Youtiao ,second-mos famours <<Doujiang>> ,so Levon go there .Of course he order Youtiao and Doujiang . Anyway ,while he eating ,he look first the North East ,feel cool breeze of sea wind across his face ,make his cool looking hair go across face like in one of the famours Chinese cartoon series that everyone in western country love so much ,wear costume play dress up like ,and so on .

A old man ,very very old ,ask him can have a piece his Youtiao, and Levon say <<ya ,of course >> break the piece off his Youtiao give old man .Old man smile and take the piece ,and maybe he gonna get own youtiao later ,but it don't matter to Levon ,because socialism with the chinese characteristic have become so strong ,so effective ,that actually all the foodses on Diaoyu island dont cost any money .Everyone can eat for free ,so everyone share the food just like Levon share it with old man ,and some people might mistakenly think that if all thing dont need money ,then sharing dont have some advantage .But no ,it wrong ,because Levon show he the generous guy ,so the old man wanna sit with him and have a chat .

Old man look Levon in the eye ,and even though he eating the youtiao ,which wers so delicious ,but old man's eye become so serious ,give Levon a bit of shock .Old man take those serieous eye and cast them like some fishing pool --which the Diaoyu island name for --to the North East direction ,he put those eye toward sea and say:

<<You know America ?>>

<<What that>> Ask Levon .

<<Well ,>>Old man say <<It one of western country ,not very powerful no more, but in fact ,during second world war ,just before China become greatest country in world ,America do one thing help us so much .>>

Levon not very interest the history ,think it very boring ,he rather play DOTA 2 ,which made by big Chinese game company ,or play he phone and so on .But because old man seem nice ,so Levon keep talking with him for make him feel some happiness in the daily life .

Levon say ,<<How they help us ?>>

Old man smile ,the smile style that only the old man can have ,hide some kind of knowledges or wisdoms that come wtih many year ,then he say << They destroy our enemy .>>

Levon dont know what's meaning ,but he don't wanna embarrass self ,so he just nod head and look his Doujiang .

<< Do you know what happen in Nanjing ?>> Old man ask .

<< No>>, say Levon.

<< Well ,it wers so bad ,in fact .But since you the young post-90s boy ,so you can forget it .If our enemy still exist ,well ,then you gotta remember what happen ,but because they gone ,so you can forget it .>>

<<Okay ,>>Levon say ,<<Although I don't know what even happen ,but I just gonna forget it .>>

Old man smile again ,ah ,that smile ,Levon kind of want to know some thing about the history ,just so he can smile so mysterious ,give girl around he the deep impression .Still ,Levon decide not say anything ,just respect old man with own silence .

Old man finally say ,and Levon see in the face that old man gonna leave world soon ,<< If enemy wers still here ,well ,you probably not even can be born here on this island .Maybe war would be fight here in these day ,in fact .>>

<<Oh, >> say Levon <<well ,I not born here .I not the local boy >>.

<<Where you born then ,>> ask Old man .

<<Chairman Mao City >> say Levon ,<<In Taiwan province .>>

The old man ,he smile one more time ,and Levon really dont know why ,but he DOTA2 team mate give him the SMS message on phone ,say they need the roam support ,so he say bye the old man ,go play some game ,appreciate live on the China's Diaoyu Island .

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