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HMS Boromir posted:nothing happened in it. every conceivably interesting plot thread was fake and barely explored. most of it was a slice of life with unlikable characters. they had a single 30 minute episode's worth of plot and a bunch of hot nothing to fill the rest of it with I thought over the course of the two seasons and movie that enough was hinted at to make it interesting. I enjoyed the character interactions, particularly for Kyon's ongoing denial and meta/narrator monologue. I also loved the animation and visual detail in much of the show, beyond any characterisation or plot. quote:one of characters exists to be sexually assaulted as a joke. This did feel more noticeable on a recent rewatch. Some stuff post-endless-eight in S2 was disturbing, seemed to treat it that way, but then just... failed to go anywhere with it. It may be that the show is better in retrospect, as a weird cultural phenomenon and KyoAni's emergence as an impressive studio, than as a piece of fiction.
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K-On is better than Haruhi.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:K-On is better than Haruhi. Not enough aliens, espers or time travellers, sorry.
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Did K-On start the trend of "cute girls doing cute things" moeblob shows? Because if so I'd say it had a larger impact than Haruhi.
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CuLT posted:Not enough aliens, espers or time travellers, sorry.
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z0glin Warchief posted:Did K-On start the trend of "cute girls doing cute things" moeblob shows? Because if so I'd say it had a larger impact than Haruhi. I can't say that it started it since Azumanga might've been first though it's more of a pure comedy than a moeblob show. It definitely did popularize it and give the genre a fuckton of traction
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Aug 9, 2015 12:30
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CuLT posted:I liked Haruhi, and am interested in how someone found it overall unenjoyable. That sort of thread would be cool if people had to effort post and back that poo poo up with some words, with brutal punishments for drive-by blanket statements like "(Popular anime) is actually horrible!"
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Aug 9, 2015 12:49
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comedy show with mostly female cast: ugh, lazy moeblob show. comedy show with mostly male cast: GREATEST ANIME IN LAST TEN YEARS, BRO.
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I've read enough 'your favourite [thing] sucks' threads to last a lifetime to be honest.
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Sakurazuka posted:I've read enough 'your favourite [thing] sucks' threads to last a lifetime to be honest.
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Aug 9, 2015 13:03
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Sakurazuka posted:I've read enough 'your favourite [thing] sucks' threads to last a lifetime to be honest. Yeah in reality it would probably be lame as hell, but heck I can dream...
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I like Nichijou. I also like Nichibros. I'm am certain I will enjoy the moeblob version featuring princesses - Nichiojous.
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I think a thread dedicated to telling people that what they like sucks would probably just spread to every other thread, and then where would we be?
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Aug 9, 2015 13:06
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DoubleDonut posted:I think a thread dedicated to telling people that what they like sucks would probably just spread to every other thread, and then where would we be? The Something Awful forums
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Aug 9, 2015 13:07
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DoubleDonut posted:I think a thread dedicated to telling people that what they like sucks would probably just spread to every other thread, and then where would we be? Cinema Discusso?
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Aug 9, 2015 13:08
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DoubleDonut posted:I think a thread dedicated to telling people that what they like sucks would probably just spread to every other thread, and then where would we be? gbs
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Aug 9, 2015 13:09
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DoubleDonut posted:I think a thread dedicated to telling people that what they like sucks would probably just spread to every other thread, and then where would we be? tviv
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HMS Boromir posted:nothing happened in it. every conceivably interesting plot thread was fake and barely explored. most of it was a slice of life with unlikable characters. they had a single 30 minute episode's worth of plot and a bunch of hot nothing to fill the rest of it with. one of characters exists to be sexually assaulted as a joke. its like old adtrw never left
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:K-On is better than Haruhi.
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Endorph posted:criticism can be interesting and good but a lot of the internet is super negative about everything and it gets really tiring Srice posted:Yeah in reality it would probably be lame as hell, but heck I can dream... Trolling and idiocy is boring, which is what a lot of the Internet comprises of. It would be a shame if ADTRW couldn't rise above that, but also would not be without precedent. I'd rather not lump critique in with all that under the brush of "negativity" - I am perfectly capable of liking something and not being offended that someone else doesn't, or that what I like about a show is what they hate, or that I completely overlook what they feel are fundamental flaws. I enjoy the alternative perspectives.
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My perspective is that mikuru has some really good baps
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Aug 9, 2015 13:33
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All I know is that TVIV became unbearable when posters started to trip over themselves to be negative about just about every show.
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CuLT posted:Trolling and idiocy is boring, which is what a lot of the Internet comprises of. It would be a shame if ADTRW couldn't rise above that, but also would not be without precedent. Critiquing good things to talk about why they are good is 300% more useful as an exercise in learning, a mock thread would blow big time, like all threads started about talking about why something sucks do.
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Aug 9, 2015 13:38
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CuLT posted:Trolling and idiocy is boring, which is what a lot of the Internet comprises of. It would be a shame if ADTRW couldn't rise above that, but also would not be without precedent. I absolutely agree with all of that, but I do think that it would only take a few posters making it into some weird anime tribalism thing to completely derail such a thread.
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I think the best way to get that sort of thing to work would be something like a thread to talk about things that are flawed but still interesting.
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Nate RFB posted:All I know is that TVIV became unbearable when posters started to trip over themselves to be negative about just about every show.
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Aug 9, 2015 13:41
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Srice posted:I think the best way to get that sort of thing to work would be something like a thread to talk about things that are flawed but still interesting.
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Srice posted:I think the best way to get that sort of thing to work would be something like a thread to talk about things that are flawed but still interesting. A thread about the strengths of cool shows often overlooked because they aren't met with as much universal acclaim would be good yeah.
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Nate RFB posted:All I know is that TVIV became unbearable when posters started to trip over themselves to be negative about just about every show. Sharkopath posted:Critiquing good things to talk about why they are good is 300% more useful as an exercise in learning, a mock thread would blow big time, like all threads started about talking about why something sucks do. Srice posted:I absolutely agree with all of that, but I do think that it would only take a few posters making it into some weird anime tribalism thing to completely derail such a thread. Endorph posted:the doctor who hate thread sucks worse than doctor who I've never read that thread, but I can imagine how that would go, and it probably means you're all correct in that it would eventually be a clusterfuck.
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Aug 9, 2015 13:45
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Mock threads basically start off ok when there's genuinely bad stuff to discuss but get lame because goons are great at  so you wind up with people finding fairly innocuous stuff then making mental hurdles to say it's bad.
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Aug 9, 2015 13:52
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Sharkopath posted:A thread about the strengths of cool shows often overlooked because they aren't met with as much universal acclaim would be good yeah. I think interesting but flawed productions can have just as much if not more cool things to be said about them, than things that are just straight up good. Namtab posted:Mock threads basically start off ok when there's genuinely bad stuff to discuss but get lame because goons are great at And then you get the hosed up weirdos who think it's cool to stalk a person who made a thing they don't like.
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Critique doesn't work if you only focus on the bad, something which TVIV needs to learn. Well, that and the usual thing on this forum where people trip over themselves to be offended by something
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Srice posted:And then you get the hosed up weirdos who think it's cool to stalk a person who made a thing they don't like. I've not read the mock threads for individuals (chris-chan, uli), but the goons that post there seem just as mentally unhealthy as the people they're mocking
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Srice posted:And then you get the hosed up weirdos who think it's cool to stalk a person who made a thing they don't like. ... tell me that's not a thing that happened
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Doxxing is a thing that exists for much more mundane things, so why are you shocked
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Knorth posted:... tell me that's not a thing that happened There's a guy who used the freedom of information act to get someone's address because they made a webcomic he didn't like.
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Aug 9, 2015 14:04
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Random internet cruelty isn't really shocking, I guess. It's always massively disappointing though
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What was the webcomic
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CuLT posted:I liked Haruhi, and am interested in how someone found it overall unenjoyable. You want me to throw away my worthless self-satisfaction in exchange for eternal suffering and despair?! I don't need it! I don't need any of it! What's wrong with turning a blind eye to suffering? I don't want a truth full of pain! I want a peaceful lie!
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