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eSports Chaebol posted:The real irony is that the magic of "the market" and whatever pragmatism and meritocracy etc. it is supposed to bring doesn't actually apply to the internal structure of firms, large ones of which inevitably have a complex system of bureaucracy just like....the government! Even businesses aren't run like businesses in the libertarian sense. Sears tried. It wasn't pretty.
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Aug 9, 2015 23:19
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Oh yeah, wasn't that guy a full-blown Objectivist?
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Aug 9, 2015 23:22
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Police in the South negotiated his surrender? Must've been white. Not white. DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Aug 9, 2015 |
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Aug 9, 2015 23:23
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Aug 10, 2015 00:00
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Pramila Jayapal on the Seattle disruption: That was really good. Is there a link?
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eSports Chaebol posted:The real irony is that the magic of "the market" and whatever pragmatism and meritocracy etc. it is supposed to bring doesn't actually apply to the internal structure of firms, large ones of which inevitably have a complex system of bureaucracy just like....the government! Even businesses aren't run like businesses in the libertarian sense. Well, except for Kmart-Sears. Taken over by a hardcore lolbertarian, he's got every division competing with each other - to the point that they can't even do their cross-department promotions like they used to. Marketing charges every department for page space and has to turn a profit from that. Since the departments outbid each other on better real-estate you end up with nonsensical pairings like children's underwear and power tools. Oh, don't forget the internal-to-sears social network that you have to blog on - and there's metrics to make sure every employee is using it. The whole thing is an ever-growing  that hasn't  ... yet. Worth reading about.Edit: Goddamnit, missed Whiskey Juvenile's link to this exact thing, noticed it when I went to edit in the article link. It's still an amazingly good example of how far-from-reality Libertarian beliefs are. Harik fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 00:39
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Harik posted:Oh, don't forget the internal-to-sears social network that you have to blog on - and there's metrics to make sure every employee is using it. And make sure you don't say bad things about Sears on it because the CEO has sock puppet accounts he uses to argue with employees.
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Aug 10, 2015 00:43
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Neeksy posted:That was really good. Is there a link? https://www.facebook.com/pramila.jayapal/posts/10153194606313621?fref=nf&pnref=story
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I am a proud libertarian and I think the guy in charge of Sears is an IDIOT!! You can compete with other people but competition within your own company has to be very careful or you will cannibalize yourself!
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Plastics posted:You can compete with other animals but competition within your own species has to be very careful or you will cannibalize yourself! I couldn't come up with any Sears products to make a soylent joke about.
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reagan posted:Why should Bernie take the time to sit down with people who literally threw a tantrum on stage? Practice for speaking to Congress?  Somebody's got to be the grownup in the room.
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Aug 10, 2015 01:46
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Can we not talk about gun control right now? People are dead. Now is not the time.
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Aug 10, 2015 01:57
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Can we not talk about gun control right now? People are dead. Now is not the time.
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Aug 10, 2015 01:59
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It's time to look for a hero somewhere out of this tragedy...
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JT Jag posted:Can we just have a week or two of respectful silence before you try and score political points over this?
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Joementum posted:Ted Cruz's big new idea: The Articles of Confederation. so he wants to rewind the clock all they way back to a terrible system where all the states were lovely mini countrys that hated each other. nice.
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Aug 10, 2015 02:05
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Ravenfood posted:He posts that after every shooting. I can't tell if its an ironic gimmick or not.
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Aug 10, 2015 02:06
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Carly Fiorina sez she wants to make the tax code a mere 3 pages long. 
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Aug 10, 2015 02:07
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Hell, why not make it one sentence, if you want to go that route? "EVERYONE PAYS X% OF THEIR INCOME." That's it. SO SIMPLE!!
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Aug 10, 2015 02:09
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Aug 10, 2015 02:16
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All taxes converted to doubloons and placed in President Trump's personal presidential swimming pool.
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Trabisnikof posted:I couldn't come up with any Sears products to make a soylent joke about. 
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I was about to type something like "even among mass shootings, this stands out as particularly hosed up" then I just thought about everything involved in that sentence and poured myself a drink
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Neeksy posted:That was really good. Is there a link? http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/08/09/22671957/guest-editorial-why-saturdays-bernie-sanders-rally-left-me-feeling-heartbroken Post to which he was responding to: WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Pramila Jayapal on the Seattle disruption:
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Mr Interweb posted:Carly Fiorina sez she wants to make the tax code a mere 3 pages long. I notice it's never lawyers or accountants calling for such short bills and financial regulations. It's always business people looking to disrupt the paradigm.
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Gyges posted:I notice it's never lawyers or accountants calling for such short bills and financial regulations. It's always business people looking to disrupt the paradigm. Which seems dumb to me, because I bet having all the loopholes and stuff is well worth throwing their tax departments at it. Losing them would be a shocker. And I'm sure lots of normal people think it'll be good, up until they realize how much the US uses tax breaks instead of welfare.
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foobardog posted:Which seems dumb to me, because I bet having all the loopholes and stuff is well worth throwing their tax departments at it. Losing them would be a shocker. And I'm sure lots of normal people think it'll be good, up until they realize how much the US uses tax breaks instead of welfare. The shorter the document, the more holes you can poke in it. Shorter documents leave lots of terms and phrases open to free interpretation. This means more loopholes usually, not less.
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RevKrule posted:The shorter the document, the more holes you can poke in it. Shorter documents leave lots of terms and phrases open to free interpretation. This means more loopholes usually, not less. More work for the courts trying to figure out what poo poo, 3-page bill means.
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RevKrule posted:The shorter the document, the more holes you can poke in it. Shorter documents leave lots of terms and phrases open to free interpretation. This means more loopholes usually, not less. Not exactly. Shorter documents leave lots of terms and phrases open to interpretation in court, so your holes show up based on judicial interpretation. Longer documents leave less open to interpretation but themselves create holes and interstices where people can work. You're basically choosing whether you want your loopholes to be created by the legislature (long) or the judiciary (short.) Congress has tended towards the former for obvious reasons.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Pramila Jayapal on the Seattle disruption: Hey this was super good, read it. This juxtaposed with a horrific crime story is why SA is #1 Armani fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Kalman posted:Not exactly. I just got out of training for an insurance license, where we had to learn a bit about the contract of adhesion, where a party acting in a unilateral contract pretty much has to spell out a poo poo load of the language of the contract otherwise it may waive some of their rights in enforcing the contract. A lot of government forms operate this way as well, with the clauses usually backed by laws and regulations, because the government doesn't want to be on the losing end of legal battle because they didn't cross a t or dotted an i correctly.
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Young Freud posted:I just got out of training for an insurance license, where we had to learn a bit about the contract of adhesion, where a party acting in a unilateral contract pretty much has to spell out a poo poo load of the language of the contract otherwise it may waive some of their rights in enforcing the contract. A lot of government forms operate this way as well, with the clauses usually backed by laws and regulations, because the government doesn't want to be on the losing end of legal battle because they didn't cross a t or dotted an i correctly. Especially when it's happened before, on a comma.
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On the topic of running a country like a business, if anyone has a link that outlines why this is a bad idea, I'd love to read it. While I know that it's a bad idea (businesses exist simply to make money, anything that doesn't make money in the short term is to be eliminated, this doesn't jive with doing things for the public good), it would be interesting to see it written down in some format. Also, because a couple of my co-workers keep referring to themselves as "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" and parrot this line a bunch. Granted, I spent a (short) period thinking about myself as such, which only heightens my  . I'm hoping something I could point them to that dispels the myth much more eloquently than I can could be extremely useful. I get the impression they actually have an open mind on this sorta stuff.
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It's not getting much attention right now, but Ferguson is turning into a warzone again as police are out in force against protestors, just like a year ago. One protestor has been shot, not sure yet who is responsible.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's not getting much attention right now, but Ferguson is turning into a warzone again as police are out in force against protestors, just like a year ago. One protestor has been shot, not sure yet who is responsible. Not suprising considering Ferguson PD has been buisness as usual despite the DoJ findings.
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Someone explain to me why the Justice Department can't come in and clean house in Ferguson and just take over policing duties with Federal Officers while they retrain a new police force and use Ferguson as a example.
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Hollismason posted:Someone explain to me why the Justice Department can't come in and clean house in Ferguson and just take over policing duties with Federal Officers while they retrain a new police force and use Ferguson as a example. Because we live in a nation of laws
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