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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Well obviously buzzfeed sites are pushing the narrative that the director was a reefer-crazed degenerate who, in a haze of marijuana smoke, destroyed everything in his path. The image conjured of him doing damage to his trailer (or whatever) is consistently mentioned in the same breath as him being removed from the film, in order to imply a causal relationship. He's a monster! What will he destroy next? Weird, everything I read seems to credit the dopefiend with the parts of the movie that worked (the first half) while the lovely (last) part is called out as being bad and boring due to executive interference. But then again I only read this forum.
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Aug 10, 2015 20:03
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i liked that one older spongebob episode when the characters get superpowers. the quikster, the elastic waistband, captain magma and misappear. hope this helps.
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Aug 10, 2015 20:06
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drat, Miss Appear is a good superhero name.
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Aug 10, 2015 20:10
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ZombieParts posted:They've been having problems keeping the FF alive for years. The best modern iteration of them is The Incredibles. Yeah, from what I've heard, Fantastic Four comic books have had lovely sales for just about ever. And, in general, movies tend to promote the comic and boost sales of the books from what I've heard. But with this movie, that probably wasn't going to happen (hell, it probably would have had the opposite effect, like people cancelling on the book because the movie ruined it for them). So what's Marvel to do? They can't make a good film to promote the book, so they're better off shelving it and working on what they actually control and what is actually making money for them. This is just based off what I've heard, though.
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Applewhite posted:Idk maybe don't get high at work? gently caress you! A dime bag and an eight ball is an important part of a Tranks morning!
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Aug 10, 2015 20:14
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It seems to me, a person who has not and most likely never will see this movie, that Trank wanted to do a darker weirder take on the Fant4stic 4our that the 'Studio People' ultimately started panicking about so they started ramming their fists down his throat causing him to mentally give up on the project and in turn probably lash out at his trailer furniture thus forcing the studio to do all those reshoots and re-edits ultimately resulting in a generic mess of a movie I don't think Trank was some sort of evil drugged up clown rear end in a top hat who ruined the movie by himself, I'm way more willing to believe in studio interference from some boardroom clowns
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Aug 10, 2015 20:16
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gfanikf posted:gently caress you! A dime bag and an eight ball is an important part of a Tranks morning! Have we established yet that Trank isn't Kevin Smith out of his fat suit?
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Zzulu posted:I dont get whats so hard about the fantastic four property. They're 4 superheroes instead of the regular one. It needs to be a team up movie like the Guardians of the Galaxy and the "science" gimmick of theirs should only be used to get them to the actual fantastic adventure I.E Space Adventure or Other World adventure idk it seems like ff is maybe just too wacky like for a studio who wants a new batman or avengers ff is actually very trippy with cosmic rays and a big walking rock man and rubber man while all the studio wants is something that is safe and will make them money there's also the way they relate with each other like a family and it seems like script writers for comic book movies have real problems with that kind of dynamic so when the cast is supposed to bicker but make up in a family kind of way they just snipe at each other unpleasantly and then welp here's the bad guy so we better make up. also there's the problem with their origins i mean i'm not someone who hates on super movies reflexively but i think super hero origins are the worst things that always bog down the front half of a movie. at some point people are going to be like yeah we know or don't care how spider man became spider man just get to the fight scenes. stop trying to explain how a superman can turn himself into fire and just let him turn himself into fire please.
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He clearly wanted to do a dark horror-ish film which sounds neat. What hosed it up was that the studio initially said yes to that then after filming had a coniption and made them reshoot the entire second half. Tranks comes across as a knobhead but I do not think the failure is his fault tbh. Maybe his version would have flopped but probably would have been well-received
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Zzulu posted:I dont get whats so hard about the fantastic four property. They're 4 superheroes instead of the regular one. It needs to be a team up movie like the Guardians of the Galaxy and the "science" gimmick of theirs should only be used to get them to the actual fantastic adventure I.E Space Adventure or Other World adventure If you do their origin story, you probably won't be able to do space adventures until the second film. If you don't do their origin story, you have to explain how a bunch of seemingly regular people (i.e., not dudes born in space like in Guardians) go off and have space adventures, as well as some allusion to how they got their powers. Note that when people say The Incredibles was the last "good" version of F4, they didn't do wacky space adventures either even though they didn't really have an origin story (at least for the parents).
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EmmyOk posted:He clearly wanted to do a dark horror-ish film which sounds neat. What hosed it up was that the studio initially said yes to that then after filming had a coniption and made them reshoot the entire second half. Tranks comes across as a knobhead but I do not think the failure is his fault tbh. Maybe his version would have flopped but probably would have been well-received yeah i heard that it sounds like a bad fit for fantastic four honestly. i think it might be cool for if someone ever options, like, the rights for planetary
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Also, the thing should have blue pants and there should at least be the coy implication that he has both a butt AND a penis and that they are both Rock Hard at all times
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Eventually The Thing should take out his massive Thing and start using it as a huge club, too
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computer parts posted:If you do their origin story, you probably won't be able to do space adventures until the second film. If you don't do their origin story, you have to explain how a bunch of seemingly regular people (i.e., not dudes born in space like in Guardians) go off and have space adventures, as well as some allusion to how they got their powers. Start in medias res, with the Fantastic Four fighting the Mole Man and his rock monster. They beat him and it goes into a flashback of how they get their powers that doesn't last that long. You can take ten minutes for the origin and that'll be more than enough for even someone who has never heard of the Fantastic Four. Then the bulk of the film is fun adventures in super science.
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Aug 10, 2015 21:03
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burritolingus posted:Start in medias res, with the Fantastic Four fighting the Mole Man and his rock monster. They beat him and it goes into a flashback of how they get their powers that doesn't last that long. You can take ten minutes for the origin and that'll be more than enough for even someone who has never heard of the Fantastic Four. Then the bulk of the film is fun adventures in super science. An FF movie needs to take place in the 60s, and have bright colors and a soundtrack from a Billy Wilder film.
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Red posted:An FF movie needs to take place in the 60s, and have bright colors and a soundtrack from a Billy Wilder film. I absolutely agree.
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Red posted:An FF movie needs to take place in the 60s, and have bright colors and a soundtrack from a Billy Wilder film. I agree. With the Corman Film style uniforms and that contemporary version of 1960s America it would work really well imho
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I always thought Tim Robbins would make a good Reed Richards.
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EmmyOk posted:I agree. With the Corman Film style uniforms and that contemporary version of 1960s America it would work really well imho I think so, yeah embrace the inherent goofiness/campiness of the characters and don't try to make it "cool" in terms of focus-grouped contemporary appeal take the smallest of fuckin chances and make something neat
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Red posted:An FF movie needs to take place in the 60s, and have bright colors and a soundtrack from a Billy Wilder film. 100% for this and also making every Superman film a period peice set in the 20s.
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maybe they just need to start sorting the superheros into like the decades they are most suited for all the really goofy ones go into the 60s where the universe follows like some kinda Adam West Batman logic stick all of your kinda boring whitebread characters in the 40s or 50s if there is neon in the costume at all or the name references some kind of outdated electronic thingy stick em in the 80s maybe put your gritty antihero vigilante types in the 70s or 90s
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Monkey Fracas posted:maybe they just need to start sorting the superheros into like the decades they are most suited for I'm all for this, but will the gritty guys from the 90s reference the boring guys from the 50s?
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Now I kinda want to see a neon cyberpunk hero have adventures in the uptight 50s.
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Grendels Dad posted:I'm all for this, but will the gritty guys from the 90s reference the boring guys from the 50s? Gritty 90s Antihero will say something like "Who do you think I am, [Morally Upstanding 50s WhiteBread All-American]?" before like dispatching a bad guy in a totally s1ck 2cool fashion It's all right here in the flowchart
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Monkey Fracas posted:Gritty 90s Antihero will say something like "Who do you think I am, [Morally Upstanding 50s WhiteBread All-American]?" before like dispatching a bad guy in a totally s1ck 2cool fashion Building a conan, I like it.
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EmmyOk posted:I agree. With the Corman Film style uniforms and that contemporary version of 1960s America it would work really well imho Setting, themes, and costumes are easy. The problem is, FF would depend so much more heavily on actor-to-actor chemistry, it would be really tough to cast. You'd need to have Ben Grimm, a gruff but nice Jewish New Yorker from a blue collar background, with an over-the-top voice, have sharp banter with spoiled rich kid Johnny Storm. Sue plays referee between them. The easy one to cast is Reed, who is basically autistic. Edit: Ha ha Mr. Autistic
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Red posted:Setting, themes, and costumes are easy. We also need actors from the 60s tbh. Bridgette Bardot as Sue, Anthony Perkins as Mr. Autistic, Rock Hudson as Ben Grimm, not sure about Johnny. EmmyOk fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 22:04
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mf doom as dr. doom
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must be at least one shot of Reed like sticking his neck around a corner and going "hey what's up in this room gang" or something
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Gaunab posted:mf doom as dr. doom Every act is preceded by a freestyle rap about loving Mr. Fantastic's bitch
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Applewhite posted:Now I kinda want to see a neon cyberpunk hero have adventures in the uptight 50s. Also whoever linked Maestro used the wrong Maestro. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maestro_%28comics%29
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EmmyOk posted:We also need actors from the 60s tbh. Bridgette Bardot as Sue, Anthony Perkins as Mr. Autistic, Rock Hudson as Ben Grimm, not sure about Johnny. Rock Hudson as Ben Grimm, come on. Grimm's straight up Jackie Gleason. Johnny is James Dean.
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Wrong thread!
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Best Invisible girl.
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Young Freud posted:Rock Hudson as Ben Grimm, come on. Grimm's straight up Jackie Gleason. james dean did an effects test where he turned into the human torch. it was pretty cool but it only worked once.
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Rick and Morty is a good show and comic.
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If I was making the Fantastic Four at this point in the game, I'd skip all the origin poo poo and just introduce them as heroes at the top of their game. Straight up superstars bigger than the Avengers and appearing on talk shows and getting a lot of media attention. Be all smug and "take that Marvel" while they show newspaper clips saying poo poo like "Fantastic Four easily stop alien invasion in New York" and just a huge arrogance about them. The Dr Doom, who is basically Iron Man, appears and is like "more like that fagot four" and a rivalry ensues.
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ZombieParts posted:If I was making the Fantastic Four at this point in the game, I'd skip all the origin poo poo and just introduce them as heroes at the top of their game. Straight up superstars bigger than the Avengers and appearing on talk shows and getting a lot of media attention. Be all smug and "take that Marvel" while they show newspaper clips saying poo poo like "Fantastic Four easily stop alien invasion in New York" and just a huge arrogance about them. The Dr Doom, who is basically Iron Man, appears and is like "more like that fagot four" and a rivalry ensues. Same idea, kinda They're cocky and egotistical and super scientists, appearing on tv and what not and being called the Fantastic Four and loving it. The country of Latveria is in constant chaos, so they intervene, giving the rebel leader a power suit they invented. But then hte rebel leader basically begins a genocide in Latveria, and they go to stop him but are defeated. Headlines start calling hm Dr. Doom as he promises once he emancipates Latveria any nation that harbors terrorists will be next. how hard was that Fox.
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burritolingus posted:Start in medias res, with the Fantastic Four fighting the Mole Man and his rock monster. They beat him and it goes into a flashback of how they get their powers that doesn't last that long. You can take ten minutes for the origin and that'll be more than enough for even someone who has never heard of the Fantastic Four. Then the bulk of the film is fun adventures in super science. Open with a quick montage and voice-over. It'd take less than five minutes. "these guys went into space, spcae rays gave them space powers" loving got it.
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