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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

EmmyOk posted:

I was hoping one of them would have a normal name, "This is Cherno Alpha a brutal war machine, this is the great Crimson Typhoon, and this is Jeremy"

Jeremy... Omega Killfox. This Jaeger's so badass it got three names.

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MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
It's too bad the best jager name didn't make it out of viral marketing and into the movie proper, Diablo Intercept.

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

EmmyOk posted:

I was hoping one of them would have a normal name, "This is Cherno Alpha a brutal war machine, this is the great Crimson Typhoon, and this is Jeremy"

Jeremy got taken out in the prequel comic

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm

MariusLecter posted:

It's too bad the best jager name didn't make it out of viral marketing and into the movie proper, Diablo Intercept.

Was that the Mexican one piloted by convicts?

Pidmon
Mar 18, 2009

NO ONE risks painful injury on your GREEN SLIME GHOST POGO RIDE.

No one but YOU.

EmmyOk posted:

I was hoping one of them would have a normal name, "This is Cherno Alpha a brutal war machine, this is the great Crimson Typhoon, and this is Jeremy"

Saw this in a tumblr post so take it with a barrel of salt but apparently Uranus was originally going to be named George.

Mister Mind
Mar 20, 2009

I'm not a real doctor,
But I am a real worm;
I am an actual worm

Pidmon posted:

Saw this in a tumblr post so take it with a barrel of salt but apparently Uranus was originally going to be named George.

George's Star. (After King George III, so you know if that name stuck, we in the US would have repurposed Voyager 2 as a warship to take it in the name of George Washington.)

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Pidmon posted:

Saw this in a tumblr post so take it with a barrel of salt but apparently Uranus was originally going to be named George.

Haha that's neat! Also the Kaiju had pretty great names except for Scunner and Slattern. The ultimate level 5 had one of the names which didn't suit it.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Polaron posted:

Boy are you in for a surprise.

I'll be honest, I'm not likely to finish even the first episode because I was kinda unimpressed. What's the kicker?

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

MariusLecter posted:

It's too bad the best jager name didn't make it out of viral marketing and into the movie proper, Diablo Intercept.

That is a pretty badass name.

Also the 3 armed jaegar was so stupid. I dont care if it was piloted by triplets, they're not mutant triplets with 3 arms.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro
One of them controlled that third arm with his dick.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT
The etymology itself actually isn't; the term 'gypsy' (or 'gipsy') comes from the middle english for Egyptian, which is inaccurate but not particularly pejorative. To 'gyp' as a verb comes from the name given to the people, rather than the other way around.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Rough Lobster posted:

One of them controlled that third arm with his dick.

Must not be a big arm then.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Frostwerks posted:

Must not be a big arm then.

Oh I get it

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
My IIMM with Desperado is when Antonio's band mates show up and wreck poo poo and then die. Those two guys were really cool but then kind of died like chumps and Antonio did not care at all.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Grendels Dad posted:

My IIMM with Desperado is when Antonio's band mates show up and wreck poo poo and then die. Those two guys were really cool but then kind of died like chumps and Antonio did not care at all.

Nothing about his character implies that he's prone to giving fucks though

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Frostwerks posted:

I'll be honest, I'm not likely to finish even the first episode because I was kinda unimpressed. What's the kicker?

I'd say at least watch until you see the reveal, because it'll leave you speechless (for a variety of reasons).

If you can't bear it, here ya go:

The "ship" never left Earth. It's an immobile building in what is essentially a huge soundstage, controlled by super shady people. It was a big experiment designed to unleash latent telekinetic/psy/magic powers in people, presumably to be used to teleport humans to other planets. I'm not making this up.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen

Grendels Dad posted:

My IIMM with Desperado is when Antonio's band mates show up and wreck poo poo and then die. Those two guys were really cool but then kind of died like chumps and Antonio did not care at all.

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Nothing about his character implies that he's prone to giving fucks though

Ah, but there was one gently caress he did give in the movie...

Brother Tadger
Feb 15, 2012

I'm accidentally a suicide bomber!

Grendels Dad posted:

My IIMM with Desperado is when Antonio's band mates show up and wreck poo poo and then die. Those two guys were really cool but then kind of died like chumps and Antonio did not care at all.

This also annoyed me. particularly since they seem like such badasses, and then are killed by the first group of bad guys they encounter

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

1redflag posted:

This also annoyed me. particularly since they seem like such badasses, and then are killed by the first group of bad guys they encounter

It was a little disappointing because Banderas' character made such a big deal about how he can't call his friends, they would destroy the city. They did gently caress up that armored car pretty good.

That movie has so many badass characters who you feel die too quickly simply because you want to see more of them. Danny Trejo's character is another such example, I wanted to see him throw-knifing fools for hours.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
While I loved Mad Max Fury Road there were a few little things that bugged me in the film:

-How did the Warboys catch up with the War Rig so quickly? I get that Corpus tipped his dad off as soon as he saw it going off-route, but by then it had a sizable head start. All the vehicles had to be lowered by lifts, and there were a LOT of them in pursuit. I'm surprised they were able to catch up to the War Rig while it was still in Buzzard territory.

-How did Rictus survive Bigfoot crashing? He was on the back, completely unprotected when Immortan swerved to try to avoid hitting Splendid. Yet later, he apparently dies when the War Rig he's on top of swerves and throws him off. Seemed kind of inconsistent. Hell, they could've had him die in the process of Immortan trying to save one of his wives and replaced him with another Imperator fighting Max at the end and it wouldn't have made much difference near the end of the film.

-Splendid being surprisingly (visibly) un-mangled considering she fell out of a moving vehicle, tumbled through sharp rocks, and was run over by a monster truck.

-Every time the plot dictated, the War Party 'caught up' with the Rig. It happened during the Buzzard Attack, and after the Sandstorm. After the Rig crossed the night bog, that apparently was the only point in which the War Party 'gave up' chasing them, until they decided to sprint for the Citadel.

Jay 2K Winger
Oct 10, 2007

What are you looking for?

Panfilo posted:

While I loved Mad Max Fury Road there were a few little things that bugged me in the film:

-How did the Warboys catch up with the War Rig so quickly? I get that Corpus tipped his dad off as soon as he saw it going off-route, but by then it had a sizable head start. All the vehicles had to be lowered by lifts, and there were a LOT of them in pursuit. I'm surprised they were able to catch up to the War Rig while it was still in Buzzard territory.

-How did Rictus survive Bigfoot crashing? He was on the back, completely unprotected when Immortan swerved to try to avoid hitting Splendid. Yet later, he apparently dies when the War Rig he's on top of swerves and throws him off. Seemed kind of inconsistent. Hell, they could've had him die in the process of Immortan trying to save one of his wives and replaced him with another Imperator fighting Max at the end and it wouldn't have made much difference near the end of the film.

-Splendid being surprisingly (visibly) un-mangled considering she fell out of a moving vehicle, tumbled through sharp rocks, and was run over by a monster truck.

-Every time the plot dictated, the War Party 'caught up' with the Rig. It happened during the Buzzard Attack, and after the Sandstorm. After the Rig crossed the night bog, that apparently was the only point in which the War Party 'gave up' chasing them, until they decided to sprint for the Citadel.
Let me try answering some of these--

1. The War Rig is nitro-boosted, but also prone to overheating. We saw that during the climactic chase back toward the canyon: Furiosa had to back off the throttle to avoid blowing out the second engine until the first engine was repaired. Plus, when they were going into Buzzard territory, she was still playing like she was driving a legit mission, and not pushing the War Rig to the max. By contrast, Immortan's forces were gunning full-out to catch up to her from the get-go. It wasn't until the cover was blown and her escorts were picked off/turned on her that she went full-out into the sandstorm.

2. It looked like Rictus fell off more toward the back of Bigfoot's crash, so the vehicle was still ahead of him when it flipped. Conversely, when Nux rolled the War Rig, he was standing on its hood, and it was coming more down on top of him. Plus, you then had the Doof Warrior's Ampmobile (or whatever it's called) smashing into the War Rig wreck, and probably coming right over Rictus. With that, plus the explosions and flames and whatnot, it seems likely that Rictus would be dead either from the crash, or would die of his wounds before reaching the Citadel.

3. Yeah, that's not one I can explain.

4. See my answer to number 1. The War Rig can put on some speed, but it isn't meant to do so over long distances without burning out the engines. Furiosa needed to keep the War Rig running for the long haul to escape Immortan's pursuit, whereas Immortan was willing to sacrifice as many War Boys, vehicles, and resources as he could to catch her. But by the time they hit the bog, the chase was getting too costly to maintain, as the People Eater pointed out. When the Bullet Farmer and the Peacemaker was destroyed, and with his grief at losing both Splendid and Rictus' baby brother, it doesn't seem unlikely that Immortan would call off the pursuit at that point. But when he realized that Furiosa and her party were going to try to take the Citadel, it suddenly became worth it to resume pursuit, to avoid losing his capital.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Plus, Immorten would have to turn around anyway. I don't remember an explination as to why the war party essentially sets up camp when the rig passes the swamp and Bullet Farmer is killed.
From that point to them crossing the war party again is over a day later.

Dr Scoofles
Dec 6, 2004

Panfilo posted:

-Splendid being surprisingly (visibly) un-mangled considering she fell out of a moving vehicle, tumbled through sharp rocks, and was run over by a monster truck.

Yeah that is a bit dumb. I guess maybe something to do with the seemingly arbitrary rules of censorship in the USA? Like, you can show a woman all hosed up but if she's pregnant that's too much and would have to be cut? I dunno.

As a slightly relevant aside. I hit a car at 50mph on my little motorbike and had all kinds of broken bones, many of them crush injuries, and the only cut I had was a tiny little one on my shin. No bruises what so ever, you couldn't tell I was hosed up internally just by looking at me. So, it happens I guess if you stretch the imagination a bit.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
The Doof Warrior's purpose is to keep the War Boys fired up or to set a pace, like the drummer in the American Revolution right? But in the scene where they introduce him and in the final battle, the Doof Wagon is near the front of the convoy and its speakers are pointed directly forward.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Inzombiac posted:

Plus, Immorten would have to turn around anyway. I don't remember an explination as to why the war party essentially sets up camp when the rig passes the swamp and Bullet Farmer is killed.
From that point to them crossing the war party again is over a day later.

I'm surpassed Immortan had his whole War Party farting around outside the bog and didn't think to recall at least some of them. They had no idea initially the Rig would double back and wasted a day and a half with the Citadel undefended.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Inzombiac posted:

Plus, Immorten would have to turn around anyway. I don't remember an explination as to why the war party essentially sets up camp when the rig passes the swamp and Bullet Farmer is killed.
From that point to them crossing the war party again is over a day later.
Immortan is grieving for Splendid and the son, so stops the war party. That's what prompts Bullet Farmer to get pissed off and charge ahead, among other things. The mines laid by Max probably don't help, either.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Dr Christmas posted:

The Doof Warrior's purpose is to keep the War Boys fired up or to set a pace, like the drummer in the American Revolution right? But in the scene where they introduce him and in the final battle, the Doof Wagon is near the front of the convoy and its speakers are pointed directly forward.

I'm assuming the Doof Wagon is generally in the middle or rear of the formation. But when the War Rig doubles back, the Doof Wagon inadvertantly ended up being closer. Right before the crash, you can see Warboys scrambling over it to get on the Rig.

The Doof Wagon was also one of the bigger vehicles, and after People Eaters Rig blew up it looked like Joe intended to stop the Rig by sandwiching it between his Gigahorse and the Doof Wagon.

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




Also its perfectly reasonable to assume the giant doofspeakers work at making it specifically audible to the warparty's target in a chase.

Gonna be terrifying knowing the louder that gets the sooner you die.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
How do you lot know the names of all of the cars? Peacemaker, Gigahorse, Bigfoot, are they fan names or did I miss references in the film?

Pidmon
Mar 18, 2009

NO ONE risks painful injury on your GREEN SLIME GHOST POGO RIDE.

No one but YOU.

Memento posted:

How do you lot know the names of all of the cars? Peacemaker, Gigahorse, Bigfoot, are they fan names or did I miss references in the film?

There was an artbook.

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012

Memento posted:

How do you lot know the names of all of the cars? Peacemaker, Gigahorse, Bigfoot, are they fan names or did I miss references in the film?

Here you go: http://vehicleshowcase.madmaxmovie.com/

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Dr Christmas posted:

The Doof Warrior's purpose is to keep the War Boys fired up or to set a pace, like the drummer in the American Revolution right? But in the scene where they introduce him and in the final battle, the Doof Wagon is near the front of the convoy and its speakers are pointed directly forward.

It could also just be a symbol / standard to rally around, like having somebody carry an American flag during the revolution. Thats one more person who could carry a gun but in a lot of cases you have somebody carry a flag anyways. The symbol means something even if you can't hear it.

And in addition to the speakers and guitar, there's lines of dudes banging on drums. Deep booming drums could carry around the caravan even without the speakers maybe?

My IMM with the doof wagon was that the guy playing the guitar wasn't even playing anything. Like I guess he's a dumb mutant and most guitar skill is lost to the ages so he's not going to be a shred master or whatever, and he's a dumb war boy so he's not going to be playing amazing grace, yeah totally. But he isn't even rocking out on a basic chord progression or anything, he isn't even playing a decent rhythm or melody at all. Whenever the camera pans by the doof wagon its just <random guitar noises.mp3> like somebody is destroying a guitar on-stage and left it plugged in. I ... guess that's wild and crazy but it just sounded lame. Like dude at least just play one loving power chord, for the love of god.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
He should've been playing High On Fire songs imo

Also who has ever put this much thought into the Doof Wagon? Its purpose is to be cool.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
Coma the Doof Warrior was a symbol of Immortan Joe's dominance over the wasteland. I mean do you see one of the Buzzard vehicles have some dude with a flamethrower accordian doing a cossack dance? No, because the Buzzards are a weak Beta gang.

The guitar noise was also likely not just a morale boost for the Warboys, but struck fear in their enemies by being an ominous reminder of what was coming.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
It'd still strike more fear if you heard metal riffs instead of just occasional guitar sounds. Errrr how do I play this thing? DUNNO SMASH IT MORE.

I can understand not wanting to play recognizable popular music from our time, but at least play some arpeggios and power chords dude.

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

Zaphod42 posted:

My IMM with the doof wagon was that the guy playing the guitar wasn't even playing anything. Like I guess he's a dumb mutant and most guitar skill is lost to the ages so he's not going to be a shred master or whatever, and he's a dumb war boy so he's not going to be playing amazing grace, yeah totally. But he isn't even rocking out on a basic chord progression or anything, he isn't even playing a decent rhythm or melody at all. Whenever the camera pans by the doof wagon its just <random guitar noises.mp3> like somebody is destroying a guitar on-stage and left it plugged in. I ... guess that's wild and crazy but it just sounded lame. Like dude at least just play one loving power chord, for the love of god.

According to this interview:

quote:

Did they tell you to play anything in particular or did you take it upon yourself to just start riffing?

Yeah, the guitar wasn’t… it wasn’t a great guitar. It spent a lot of time out in the desert, you wouldn’t want to record with it. Most of the time, I’d just try to make noise. I pulled out some AC/DC, some Soundgarden, some Zeppelin, but after eight hours, you do just start thumping on it for a while.

But he can't exactly help what they did in post with the soundtrack.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

glitchkrieg posted:

According to this interview:


But he can't exactly help what they did in post with the soundtrack.

Yeah I totally understand that recording it you'd get really loving tired playing songs over and over while you're rigged up to a moving car.
But how many people would notice if his fingerings didn't match the soundtrack? Hell they probably don't match exactly even with the <guitar sounds> instead of rocking out.

The vast majority of movies don't have people playing instruments correctly, we're used to that. People playing piano they just don't show the fingers, people playing guitar just fake it, etc. That's accepted in cinema.

You could have slipped in some slayer riffs or judas priest or something and only like .01% of the guitar nerds in the audience might even notice he wasn't playing it. Or again, if you don't want to use licensed music just have some metal riffs going, basic progression of power chords. But they just did like random guitar sounds in post. I don't get it.

Its like his audio was treated as a Foley sound, instead of like music.

Chip McFuck
Jul 24, 2007

We droppin' like a comet and this Vulcan tried to Spock it/These Martians tried to do it, but knew they couldn't cop it

Zaphod42 posted:

Yeah I totally understand that recording it you'd get really loving tired playing songs over and over while you're rigged up to a moving car.
But how many people would notice if his fingerings didn't match the soundtrack? Hell they probably don't match exactly even with the <guitar sounds> instead of rocking out.

The vast majority of movies don't have people playing instruments correctly, we're used to that. People playing piano they just don't show the fingers, people playing guitar just fake it, etc. That's accepted in cinema.

You could have slipped in some slayer riffs or judas priest or something and only like .01% of the guitar nerds in the audience might even notice he wasn't playing it. Or again, if you don't want to use licensed music just have some metal riffs going, basic progression of power chords. But they just did like random guitar sounds in post. I don't get it.

Its like his audio was treated as a Foley sound, instead of like music.

I wasn't really bothered by the fact that he didn't play any songs. It is the post apocalypse, the fact that they even have a working guitar at all would be pretty rare.

Inzombiac posted:

Plus, Immorten would have to turn around anyway. I don't remember an explination as to why the war party essentially sets up camp when the rig passes the swamp and Bullet Farmer is killed.
From that point to them crossing the war party again is over a day later.

If I remember correctly, Immortan Joe stops the war party to grieve and so he can see if the baby she was carrying is still alive. The Bullet Farmer gets fed up waiting around and just goes for it.

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Sneaksie Taffer
Sep 21, 2009

Zaphod42 posted:

Its like his audio was treated as a Foley sound, instead of like music.

Except it's incorporated into the soundtrack? What the hell are you talking about?

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Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011
Yeah, the soundtrack weaves some of the riffs in as it nears the Doof Warrior, and its really obviously a riff instead of just smashing the guitar or whatever Zaphod's talking about. Listen to the video above and it'll be a lot more obvious. I thought it was a really need effect, personally.

e: Thanks for the link, too, its pretty cool.

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