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Nintendo Kid posted:no, moron, most people really don't want child porn posted on their site Agreed. But they don't want to be "under investigation indefinitely" more, hence the DoJ cooperative CP filters in place on 4chan, 8chan, reddit, etc.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:02
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Powercrazy posted:Agreed. But they don't want to be "under investigation indefinitely" more, hence the DoJ cooperative CP filters in place on 4chan, 8chan, reddit, etc. no, the fbi filters are the most effective way to keep cp off of the site, other than using another government's filters if you really wanted to.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:19
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Nintendo Kid posted:no, the fbi filters are the most effective way to keep cp off of the site, other than using another government's filters if you really wanted to. Do non-american sites use fbi's filters?
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Aug 13, 2015 23:21
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um why does the fbi have child porn? dont they know its bad and illegal?
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Aug 13, 2015 23:23
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Carbon dioxide posted:Do non-american sites use fbi's filters? well really the filters are shared among INTERPOL members, but if you're in the US you'd get them and the tools through the FBI just because they're local and corresponding agencies for different countries.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:34
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Triglav posted:um why does the fbi have child porn? dont they know its bad and illegal? There are people out there who investigate everything on the internet that's illegal, horrible, and disgusting, in order to get the people creating that stuff locked up. A lot of those people develop PTSD-like problems after a while. There's an article and a youtube clip out there about people in Latin America that're hired by Facebook and the like to check reported images and delete the illegal stuff. They get a rather low wage... and most can't keep it up for more than a few months or so, it's more traumatizing than you'd think. I respect those folks.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:37
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yeah my ex used to do terms of service compliance verification for mastercard or some other payment processor and she said they had company-provided counseling to deal with the things they saw
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Aug 14, 2015 00:10
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Nintendo Kid posted:no, moron, most people really don't want child porn posted on their site i'm friends with a guy who's friends with "hotwheels," the guy who runs 8chan. i can tell you right now that man actually does want child porn posted on his website. fun fact: for his birthday him and a bunch of gamer gators went to a strip club and spent the entire time using the free wifi to "troll SJW's" online.
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Aug 14, 2015 00:57
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Dessert Rose posted:yeah my ex used to do terms of service compliance verification for mastercard or some other payment processor and she said they had company-provided counseling to deal with the things they saw apparently Google hires contract workers to do this sort of poo poo and promises them that they'll totally hire them full time on a better job when the contract is up and when it's up they just toss them aside and refuse to pay any of the medical bills for their now completely broken brains.
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Aug 14, 2015 01:00
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:i'm friends with a guy who's friends with "hotwheels," the guy who runs 8chan. i can tell you right now that man actually does want child porn posted on his website. welp, death by guillotine i guess
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Aug 14, 2015 01:06
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:i'm friends with a guy who's friends with "hotwheels," the guy who runs 8chan. i can tell you right now that man actually does want child porn posted on his website. >_<
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Aug 14, 2015 01:18
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Dessert Rose posted:yeah my ex used to do terms of service compliance verification for mastercard or some other payment processor and she said they had company-provided counseling to deal with the things they saw like i'm not trying to be cheeky or anything. i'm just kind of baffled by people trying to do that
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Aug 14, 2015 01:33
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Space-Pope posted:i'm confused by this. are there really people who tried to sell that kind of stuff, and they accepted mastercard? bestiality and a thousand other things would be part of that, and often even legal though definitely against the terms of service for the merchant thing.
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oh right. i forgot about things being technically legal, but against TOS that sucks :\
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Aug 14, 2015 01:39
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Carbon dioxide posted:There are people out there who investigate everything on the internet that's illegal, horrible, and disgusting, in order to get the people creating that stuff locked up. also, the filters apparently just take hashes of images/video and compare them to a list of hashes of known child porn; this way the FBI sidesteps forcing (for example) gmail from storing child porn to compare against user email attachments.
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Aug 14, 2015 01:39
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:apparently Google hires contract workers to do this sort of poo poo and promises them that they'll totally hire them full time on a better job when the contract is up and when it's up they just toss them aside and refuse to pay any of the medical bills for their now completely broken brains. that's hosed. facebook at least limited people's exposure and offered counseling.
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Aug 14, 2015 01:41
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uninterrupted posted:also, the filters apparently just take hashes of images/video and compare them to a list of hashes of known child porn; this way the FBI sidesteps forcing (for example) gmail from storing child porn to compare against user email attachments. the hashes also allow for really satisfying mean-time-to-law-enforcement numbers.
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Aug 14, 2015 01:43
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:i'm friends with a guy who's friends with "hotwheels," the guy who runs 8chan. i can tell you right now that man actually does want child porn posted on his website. sounds like they got owned
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Aug 14, 2015 01:45
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rare footage of fredrick "hotwheels" brennan trolling some SJWs IRL
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Aug 14, 2015 01:58
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so you're saying Paul Rudd is actually hotwheels
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Aug 14, 2015 02:06
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that's just paul rudd's newest movie
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uninterrupted posted:also, the filters apparently just take hashes of images/video and compare them to a list of hashes of known child porn; this way the FBI sidesteps forcing (for example) gmail from storing child porn to compare against user email attachments. I wonder what else has been hashed and added to the list. presumably everything snowden has gifted us
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Aug 14, 2015 02:20
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Aug 14, 2015 02:26
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Probably not. The cp list is the cp list and it is only the cp list. A hosting company i used to work for actively discouraged us from developing tools to discover cp being hosted except for those things that could just check hash values on upload. I wasn't really privy to the implementation of that tool, but the reason the lawyers gave for not seeking out more was that it became a huge pain in the rear end to deal with law enforcement at that point. Kinda hosed up imo. We did find pedo stuff on a pretty regular basis. Usually it was a tiny php site accessible through a randomly generated url. Almost always a wordpress site was hacked to upload it. Finding one of those makes you want to take some time off and reevaluate humanity's right to continued existence.
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Aug 14, 2015 02:32
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For everyone who freaked out about Lenovo UEFI/BIOS writing execs to the (windows) filesystem, have a read about the intel AMT which works even on the lunix! FSF writeup Wikipedia on known vulnerabilities one man's remote manament protocol is another man's backdoor, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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froward posted:one man's remote manament protocol is another man's backdoor, I guess. this is often literally the case
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Aug 14, 2015 02:56
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Winkle-Daddy posted:Probably not. The cp list is the cp list and it is only the cp list. A hosting company i used to work for actively discouraged us from developing tools to discover cp being hosted except for those things that could just check hash values on upload. this is an interesting (albeit 10 year old) document about BT's cleanfeed system, which they use to prevent their customers from accessing CAI: https://publicaffairs.linx.net/news/?p=154 it essentially uses static routes to force requests to certain IPs to go via a reverse proxy that can block by URL two things of particular note: - they claim they'd rather throw the whole thing out than fall victim to scope creep quote:BT says that if the pressure to extend the scope of Cleanfeed became too great it would simply cancel the project. - they were worried about filtering for CAI jeopardising their status as a common carrier, rendering them responsible for policing all the other illegal poo poo online quote:If BT faced an adverse finding on this issue Cleanfeed would be terminated. doubtless this is something goddamnedtwisto can elaborate on
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Aug 14, 2015 03:02
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Have we talked about how the stagefright patch didn't actually fix anything? Cause that's kinda nifty.
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Aug 14, 2015 03:09
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Trabisnikof posted:Have we talked about how the stagefright patch didn't actually fix anything? Cause that's kinda nifty. the link was posted, but we ended up talking about CP instead.
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Aug 14, 2015 03:42
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ultramiraculous posted:the link was posted, but we ended up talking about CP instead. goons.txt
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Aug 14, 2015 03:43
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ultramiraculous posted:the link was posted, but we ended up talking about CP instead. the SA user control panel is called "usercp.php" and my bookmark for it just says "CP"
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Aug 14, 2015 03:47
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speaking of android malware, what is a good thing to do to find out if you are boned? both my wife and i got messages to our lg g4's (on sprint's network) that our sim card was successfully unlocked, with just a button to press "ok". I'm sure that has something to do with the garbage sprint loads on their androids but it did make me wonder what's out there that isn't just terrible security theater?
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Aug 14, 2015 03:55
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Winkle-Daddy posted:speaking of android malware, what is a good thing to do to find out if you are boned? both my wife and i got messages to our lg g4's (on sprint's network) that our sim card was successfully unlocked, with just a button to press "ok". I'm sure that has something to do with the garbage sprint loads on their androids but it did make me wonder what's out there that isn't just terrible security theater? thanks to the freedom of anroid, you have dozens of options for anti virus for your phone. check them out.
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Aug 14, 2015 04:04
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so to actually talk about the stagefright fuckup:Aleksei Vasiliev posted:anyway in other google news: https://blog.exodusintel.com/2015/08/13/stagefright-mission-accomplished/ the issue here is that SIZE_MAX is UINT_MAX on 32-bit devices (most of them), right? the fix works if SIZE_MAX is ULONG_MAX, like if you compiled it as 64-bit?
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Aug 14, 2015 04:10
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Last Chance posted:thanks to the freedom of anroid, you have dozens of options for anti virus for your phone. check them out. Now you have n+1 problems.
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Aug 14, 2015 04:12
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mostly can i used this to strengthen my case that macros usually poo poo because they don't usually come with types the compiler can yell at you about?
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Aug 14, 2015 04:13
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ultramiraculous posted:mostly can i used this to strengthen my case that macros usually poo poo because they don't usually come with types the compiler can yell at you about? No, it has nothing to do with macros.
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well it might if llvm called out mis-matched int sizes like i thought it did. i thought there was a warning/error similar to swift, where doing operations with differently sized integers w/o casting gets called out. there's only signedness difference checks, apparently.
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