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EXAKT Science posted:My concern is that the pearl switches the alignment of the holder or some similar dumb thing. Considering how mad Ecco was at your Skyrim set up I doubt it :P
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BottleKnight posted:I guess we could hold a group consensus that nobody picks up the pearl. I'm not super interested in speculating about what it does but I guess it wouldn't be too hard to say just don't pick it up. O like this.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:02
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Rarity posted:Considering how mad Ecco was at your Skyrim set up I doubt it :P Oh the stories I could tell you about other Ecoo games...
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Aug 25, 2015 23:03
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BottleKnight posted:I guess we could hold a group consensus that nobody picks up the pearl. I'm not super interested in speculating about what it does but I guess it wouldn't be too hard to say just don't pick it up. I'd still like to pick it up if there is a safe way to confirm my alignment afterwards. I'd be happy to leave it where it is if only one of us is left
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Aug 25, 2015 23:06
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When I get up a computer, I'm am just going to unload.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:06
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I don't have any problem with either mason picking the pearl up and think alignment-swapping speculation may be over-paranoid. Plus I think Ecco would give us dirty looks if we let the setup's namesake sit in the dirt.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:07
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TMMadman posted:When I get up a computer, I'm am just going to unload. 
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Aug 25, 2015 23:08
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The Ninth Layer posted:I don't have any problem with either mason picking the pearl up and think alignment-swapping speculation may be over-paranoid. Plus I think Ecco would give us dirty looks if we let the setup's namesake sit in the dirt. We can put it in the corner and cover it with a sheet, Ecco would never know. That said, I think giving it to a mason is the better choice. That way we don't have to worry about it being scooped up.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:09
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You're getting part of it too. Regardless of your masonry.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:10
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On reflection, I'm not sure I like how the vote's swung away from merk. I said to Kash that it would take something big to turn the tide elsewhere and sure enough Sam's come in and been a huge idiot and everyone's taking the opportunity to jump on it. But I've seen much more from merk to make me suspicious than I have from Sam. I'm going to leave my vote where it is when I go to bed, just in case something swings it back round. I except town can lynch Sam without me if it wants to anyway and if they do he's done enough bad play to deserve the heat.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:12
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The Ninth Layer posted:I don't have any problem with either mason picking the pearl up and think alignment-swapping speculation may be over-paranoid. Plus I think Ecco would give us dirty looks if we let the setup's namesake sit in the dirt. Even though if they'd done that in the story this game is based on, everything would have turned out fine?
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Aug 25, 2015 23:13
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I would support the Masons holding the pearl, and Vimes should drop it on pain of death if he refuses. However, I really don't think SirSam is likely to flip Scum and I would prefer not to mislynch today. The bandwagon swing off merk reeks.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:15
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Lumpen posted:I would support the Masons holding the pearl, and Vimes should drop it on pain of death if he refuses. This is the first smart thing you've said in this game
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Aug 25, 2015 23:20
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Just gonna repeat what I said to Kash here cause I think the analysis is worth bearing in mind. It's not a bad lynch by any means but the swing from merk feels suss to me. It's always easier to lynch town merk cause scum jump all over the case. Scum merk is way harder cause his buddies will normally hold back from voting him so he escapes the lynch (Counter-Strike Mafia is a great example of this). So him sitting as top candidate with plenty of heat for ages to suddenly being out of the discussion looks scummy as hell to me.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:23
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Rarity posted:On reflection, I'm not sure I like how the vote's swung away from merk. I said to Kash that it would take something big to turn the tide elsewhere and sure enough Sam's come in and been a huge idiot and everyone's taking the opportunity to jump on it. But I've seen much more from merk to make me suspicious than I have from Sam.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:27
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The Ninth Layer posted:The people who switched off merk were EXAKT, Kash and myself, just to be clear. Do you think more than one of us is scum? I've felt iffy about Exakt since he switch off the vote leader to start pushing a TM case that had zero other votes while still claiming to think merk was scum. I've felt your posting this game has been very towny and think it's more likely you're just being misled. It's not necessarily the people switching from merk in this situation are the scum, there's also the other people piling onto Sam (and Samfu earlier) that have influenced your swing.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:31
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##unvote ##vote merk You guys are gonna make me read too much. Deadline is tonight apparently so I should read something I guess.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:33
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:##unvote Can you focus on the push from merk to the Sams and tell me if it looks artificial to you please?
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Aug 25, 2015 23:36
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##vote SirSamVimes At this point I feel better about this vote than merk, who I've been on the fence on. I'll try to check in before deadline, but can't be sure if I'll be able to or not.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:37
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Rarity posted:Just gonna repeat what I said to Kash here cause I think the analysis is worth bearing in mind. This isn't a bad point.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:43
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Anyway I need to go to bed now. Everyone, I hope you make the right choice here.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:47
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Rarity looks better than she did D1, that's why I'm not dogging her any more.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:56
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Samfucius posted:Rarity looks better than she did D1, that's why I'm not dogging her any more. Rarity is claiming confirmed masons with Kash.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:58
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Diqnol is still scummy, and my actual pick for today. My pressure on keane was legitimate but diq is still worse. All you fell off him once he started posting "nice" which I don't get at all. ##unvote ##vote diqnol
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Aug 25, 2015 23:58
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CCKeane posted:Rarity is claiming confirmed masons with Kash. I am aware of this. I buy it.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:59
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Only four hours to deadline here, I will change my vote if necessary on my lunch break but I really prefer diqnol.
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Samfucius posted:Diqnol is still scummy, and my actual pick for today. My pressure on keane was legitimate but diq is still worse. All you fell off him once he started posting "nice" which I don't get at all. This is a nonsense vote. What is your take on Merk?
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Samfucius posted:I am aware of this. Then you phrased this: Samfucius posted:Rarity looks better than she did D1, that's why I'm not dogging her any more. In the craziest possible way.
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Aug 26, 2015 00:02
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Also I do not get this sirsamvimes thing at all. Are we just mad because he has the pearl?
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Aug 26, 2015 00:02
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CCKeane posted:Then you phrased this: Why do I need to specifically mention the masons thing is things are jiving better in general?
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Aug 26, 2015 00:03
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CCKeane posted:This is a nonsense vote. What is your take on Merk? Merk seems town to me. He is posting without pretense, as far as I can read these things.
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Aug 26, 2015 00:04
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What's your take on Merk, Sam?
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Aug 26, 2015 00:04
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I do not want to vote him.
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Samfucius posted:Why do I need to specifically mention the masons thing is things are jiving better in general? Because there is a big difference tone wise between "I backed off because ofna claim" and "I backed off because of her posting" and you implied the latter pretty strongly, which suggests you've been reading the game closely, an assertion that I doubt with every ounce of my ghostly being.
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Aug 26, 2015 00:06
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I'm here and in transit. Will be around for the deadline.
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Would someone summarize the SirSam case or link me to where he was last discussed? Thank you.
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Samfucius posted:Why do I need to specifically mention the masons thing is things are jiving better in general? ##unvote ##vote samfucius I think you flip scum. I reread Samfucius earlier and I've been thinking about it, and while he is lurking in the sense that this game has a large volume of posts, he has posted pretty consistently since the game started. He isn't self-conscious, as was said earlier, but he is harping on very specific things while not even mentioning big, game-important stuff. He doesn't seem in the conversation at all, and it's not because he isn't posting or doesn't have time to respond to the more important stuff. It's not thoughtless, it's fake. Vimes has posted a lot of white noise but I just read it as more genuine. Samfucius here reminds me of when I read Dark Hospital II, where he was scum.
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I think the better options is ##vote merk His posting is not sincere and he is not scum hunting. From today merk posted:I'm voting Keane until he votes. I'm also not posting until Keane votes. very next post merk posted:I saw a post by ltjrigirl and wanted to try to figure out her alignment I think. He is not interested in Keane's role alignment here and his "only voting keane" comment is posturing.
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Taking another look over merk, some things stand out to me that haven't been discussed. The major thing is the sheer number of times he makes excuses for being out of the thread, not posting, not posting enough, not contributing. In my experience, just like lurking is Scummy, being selfconscious about appearing to lurk is especially Scummy. Being absent from the thread isn't great, but explicitly excusing oneself from posting is Scummy. I realize that a lot of the community here disagrees with me about this and misinterprets this point as criticizing people for being busy IRL. That is not what I'm saying is Scummy, it's incessantly talking about it in a self-conscious way that is Scummy. I don't think I've ever seen merk do it. I don't know if it's an intentional experimental gambit or an unintentional slip, but holy cow he does it is ridiculously prevalent in his posting. I think I've caught them all but I'm not even sure: merk posted:Guys, I am in a conference call and have to pee very badly. Help. merk posted:I made it through the conference call, guys. merk posted:I will be out of pocket all day tomorrow and maybe through deadline. I'm moving into a new home which doesn't have Internet yet. At best, I will be on a phone. merk posted:I didn't read the gamer case yet beyond a glance. There's one post of his I saw that I didn't like. merk posted:I have to drive to Indianapolis today in a few hours, so I'm going to hang around the house a bit until then. I think I want to analyze: a) how Gamer became the lynch candidate; and b) who was leading the lynch at the time Gamer started bubbling. merk posted:I'm out for awhile. Let that irrational fear build up and vote me instead of looking at my a) and b) items which actually finds a scum. merk posted:Ok, I'm really out this time. merk posted:Ok, going to get on the road right now. merk posted:I am posting through iPhone voice recognition so I apologize if that didn't come through correctly. merk posted:I'm out all week during the business day working. Gotta get back. merk posted:We lynched town on d1 and no one has analyzed that lynch. I haven't had the opportunity yet because I've been on a phone. merk posted:I'm voting Keane until he votes. I'm also not posting until Keane votes. merk posted:... merk posted:Yeah, I'm going to get lynched. I don't have the time or even a computer to stop it. Good job, scum - two games in a row where my unavailability gets me lynched (saved my CPig in the last one). Lynch Diqnol and PMom when I flip town. merk posted:Literally without a computer. merk posted:Literally without a computer. I also wanted to comment on this: merk posted:If you ever get to the point when you can realize your case on me is a small gut read from the TMM unvote which is inflated by your need to defeat me (for reasons I don't know), I'll think you're town. You won't get there though, regardless of alignment. In conclusion, merk is Scum, lynch merk.
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Lumpen posted:I would support the Masons holding the pearl, and Vimes should drop it on pain of death if he refuses. I'll honestly say I didn't expect a flip to Vimes based solely on me getting angry at his joke vote and his unwillingness to hand off the pearl. I'd back it because I don't believe for a second the pearl does absolutely nothing and his fear of scum holding it for even a day set off alarms for me. His content sucks and is minimal. That said, it's somewhat disconcerting to me to see things flip off merk like they did. I'm here from now til deadline and I'm concerned about this. ##unvote
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