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SlayVus posted:Remember, watching porn reduces the resale value of your video card. The images are burned forever into the VRAM, always taking up space.  lol
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HalloKitty posted:Nano is full-fat Fiji (as the rumours previously suggested). I'm imagining these are aggressively binned and throttled, but that's an interesting part.  Christ can't they give us Fiji LE already
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Aug 26, 2015 16:39
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HalloKitty posted:Nano is full-fat Fiji (as the rumours previously suggested). I'm imagining these are aggressively binned and throttled, but that's an interesting part. Considering that Fury X's have not existed at retail since the pittance released at launch and these cards are going to be more aggressively binned than those, then my only response can be LOL. Good luck with that poo poo AMD.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:41
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"Hey guys, we're selling every single one we make!"
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Aug 26, 2015 17:18
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Aug 26, 2015 17:24
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Aug 26, 2015 17:36
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I upgraded because I didn't expect it to work right but also never use my PC so I had nothing to lose. So far it opens Steam exactly the same as 8.1 and 7 did, which is about all my Windows PC is used for. Working great for everything I use it for, and it even preserved driver compatibility for my old audio interface so it didn't break my DAW. Had no issues on my newer Haswell-based comp either. Actually it's been totally fine so far and I like it better than 8.1 though I think I'm always going to prefer the XP-style start menu. I was ready for more frustration than this but not complaining.
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So the Nano is like a hypothetical Asus 980 Mini for 550$, still gotta see how noise and throttling are if you can buy one in the wild at all. I don't see a market for that, do you really need to built such a tiny gaming rig for which a 350$ Mini 970 ain't good enough?
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Aug 26, 2015 18:11
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sauer kraut posted:So the Nano is like a hypothetical Asus 980 Mini for 550$, still gotta see how noise and throttling are if you can buy one in the wild at all. Most ITX cases have no problems holding a 980ti/titan x so its really a niche product.
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Aug 26, 2015 18:17
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Aug 26, 2015 18:35
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:
 . I could see them sucking up some of the Nano part supply too if they want to update the Mac Pro.Don Lapre posted:Even AMD uses intel
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Aug 26, 2015 20:25
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I used to use Opera and Chrome to give talks when I worked on another browser. It's not always bad to show that you're aware of other players, or can even interoperate. No customer likes paying strategy tax; we'd love to see NVIDIA showing off some cool Gameworks feature on Fury-X, right?
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Subjunctive posted:I used to use Opera and Chrome to give talks when I worked on another browser. It's not always bad to show that you're aware of other players, or can even interoperate. No customer likes paying strategy tax; we'd love to see NVIDIA showing off some cool Gameworks feature on Fury-X, right? There is a difference in using a product you do not make (Intel using AMD GPU) and using a product you directly compete against (AMD using Intel CPU's)
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MikusR posted:There is a difference in using a product you do not make (Intel using AMD GPU) and using a product you directly compete against (AMD using Intel CPU's) Saying AMD "competes" with Intel is pretty generous...
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MikusR posted:There is a difference in using a product you do not make (Intel using AMD GPU) and using a product you directly compete against (AMD using Intel CPU's) Well, in my case I was using a product I directly competed with (a different browser).
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Don Lapre posted:16500 is the highest single 980ti score on firemark. for a 4770/4790k I'm running 2x 980Ti with a 4970K, all stock clocks, in Windows 10 and I only get 18975 on basic Fire Strike. I wonder what's going on there, hmm! Edit: hmm, Afterburner shows that GPU2 usage didn't get above 20% during the run. I'd have thought that the demo would get better SLI scaling than that!
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Subjunctive posted:I'm running 2x 980Ti with a 4970K, all stock clocks, in Windows 10 and I only get 18975 on basic Fire Strike. I wonder what's going on there, hmm! Windows 10 SLI is broken. Go back to Windows 7 or 8.
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SlayVus posted:Windows 10 SLI is broken. Go back to Windows 7 or 8. Broken how? GPU2 is definitely getting some use, and I haven't had stability issues. Do you mean that the drivers are not apportioning load effectively any more?
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Subjunctive posted:Broken how? GPU2 is definitely getting some use, and I haven't had stability issues. Do you mean that the drivers are not apportioning load effectively any more? Running SLI 980ti and 4770k I only got 13k in Firestrike on win 10. I'm getting 21.5k on my normal gaming clocks in 8.1.
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Subjunctive posted:Broken how? GPU2 is definitely getting some use, and I haven't had stability issues. Do you mean that the drivers are not apportioning load effectively any more? Something somewhere is broken in Windows 10. I don't know what it is, but they did release a hotfix for the SLI. The hotfix driver is 355.80. Whether that fixes the problem or not, idk.
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veedubfreak posted:Running SLI 980ti and 4770k I only got 13k in Firestrike on win 10. I'm getting 21.5k on my normal gaming clocks in 8.1. Ugh, I don't want to downgrade ugh ugh 
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Subjunctive posted:Ugh, I don't want to downgrade ugh ugh
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Subjunctive posted:I'm running 2x 980Ti with a 4970K, all stock clocks, in Windows 10 and I only get 18975 on basic Fire Strike. I wonder what's going on there, hmm! Try this http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3738/~/geforce-hotfix-driver-355.80 Looks like I won't be able to purchase my 980 Ti until tomorrow. Which sucks because it'll be shipped by FedEx. Which is estimated for 3-5 days and they don't have a store near me for me to pick up from.
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Trip Report: Display Driver Uninstaller kicks rear end. Reboot in safe mode, remove nvidia drivers, reboot in safe mode, remove Intel drivers, install card, install nvidia drivers, everything is working fine now. Windows 10 can still go gently caress itself for causing such a stupid issue but at least I have it fixed now.
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SlayVus posted:Windows 10 SLI is broken. Go back to Windows 7 or 8. veedubfreak posted:Running SLI 980ti and 4770k I only got 13k in Firestrike on win 10. I'm getting 21.5k on my normal gaming clocks in 8.1. Anecdotes are awesome, aren't they? SLI's been working just fine for me since day one, slightly higher scores than Windows 7 and I'm right in line with where my hardware should be in 3DMark. Something was broke as hell on veedubfreak's install for sure, my SLI 970s beat his 980tis by a lot, but what was actually wrong is still in question.
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SlayVus posted:Try this I'll try that, thanks. I got a driver update through GeForce Experience the other day, not sure which. If they mean system RAM, though, I doubt I'm hitting it with 32GB over the course of one benchmark run.
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http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-nano-unleashed-649-fastest-miniitx-card-full-fiji-gpu-4-gb-hbm-performance-faster-gtx-980/Nano Price posted:Q4- Price?  AMD has lost their collective minds.
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"Faster than a GTX 980*" *until user presses one damned button and overclocks the 980 to the sky for $200 less
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DrDork posted:"Faster than a GTX 980*" I am getting more and more perplexed by this tendency the last 3 gens as it seems to just shoot nvidia in the foot when it comes to benchmarks. Its not even the overclock boost (which is obviously a big deal, now more than ever) but even the reference vs. aftermarket gap is just strangely huge. It seems pretty evident that none of these cards actually need to be at reference values as low as they are, nor is it even a realistic benchmark since who exactly owns a truly reference 970 or 980? Not many. But its a happy "problem" at least
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Lowen SoDium posted:The last card that I had that had a reference style blower cooler had a high pitched whine. The last 2 cards I have had, have had 2 larger open fans and had been much quieter. Is this the case on the 980ti cards? The EVGA ACX+ cards have my eye. ACX is an amazing cooler, definitely keeps things chilly provided you have good airflow. Everyday use, I keep Afterburner set at 30% on my 970 and it stays in the mid to high 20s temp wise, I usually bump it to 40% for gaming but it barely gets close to 60 with everything maxed out. I had an older 670 with a blower cooler and it was definitely louder, had to have the fan profile at 40% everyday/55% gaming to get the same temps (I know, I know, older generation, but just for comparison sake on blower vs ACX/dual fan).
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1gnoirents posted:I am getting more and more perplexed by this tendency the last 3 gens as it seems to just shoot nvidia in the foot when it comes to benchmarks. Its not even the overclock boost (which is obviously a big deal, now more than ever) but even the reference vs. aftermarket gap is just strangely huge. It seems pretty evident that none of these cards actually need to be at reference values as low as they are, nor is it even a realistic benchmark since who exactly owns a truly reference 970 or 980? Not many. Working with a reference cooler in a worst case scenario system is probably how they come up with those clocks. They don't want people griping that their shiny new card isn't working in a dusty tomb of a case.
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Dogen posted:Working with a reference cooler in a worst case scenario system is probably how they come up with those clocks. They don't want people griping that their shiny new card isn't working in a dusty tomb of a case. ...which the Nano happily shows that AMD hasn't learned a damned thing from: they drop the cooling solution from Fury X's AIO closed loop down to a single 92mm fan, and advertise a clock that's only 50Mhz lower, despite also losing 100W of potential draw. Which either means that the Fury X was really, phenomenally stupid (dropping the $100 premium for the AIO would have actually made it a compelling option at $550), or there's no way the Nano is going to hold 1000Mhz for more than a few moments before it clocks down.
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That depends. If its true that the Nano's are cherry picked Fiji's that happen to clock well at lower volts that idea doesn't pan out. Higher clocks generally require more power but it'd be incredibly strange for an extra 50Mhz to require that much extra power. Its more likely that the Fury X's use the 'normal' good enough Fiji dies which was why it was launched first. It probably took a while to test for and build up enough inventory of cherry picked dies to launch Nano. That being said the $649 price is too high, they won't sell many. But then if they can't produce many anyways they probably don't care either. Also you're being excessively hyperbolic about the reference 290X HSF. Most just bumped the fan speed up and that problem went away.
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Don Lapre posted:16500 is the highest single 980ti score on firemark. for a 4770/4790k So, I looked into this more. I was right, single highest score for a single GTX 980 Ti with a 4790k is 18338. There are over 600 scores over 17000 on fire strike. Edit: Doesn't really matter though. Also, the Fury Nano is stupid and AMD needs new engineers. SlayVus fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Jesus Christ AMD, why? Just why? What the gently caress is the point of the Nano? Anyone interested in buying a loving $650 video card can also afford a big enough PSU to power a 275W card! Most of the ITX cases can fit such a PSU and a long, dual slot card! This thing is entirely pointless outside of a absolutely tiny demographic! 
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Even from AMD's own literature: 30% faster than a 970. That's great, and in some games the difference is even greater! So why isn't it 30% more than a 970? Why is it double the price? So, yeah, it was as I feared. They finally have a compelling new product, but they priced it where nobody will buy it. 980 Ti, anyone? HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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HalloKitty posted:Even from AMD's own literature: 30% faster than a 970. That's great, and in some games the difference is even greater! So why isn't it 30% more than a 970? Why is it double the price?
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At least there's no compelling reason to upgrade from a 290(x) if you're not ponying up for a 980ti!!!!! AMD have completely written off this year, have they. It's hilarious that the GPU chart of "750ti < 270x < 280 < 280x < 290 < 290x < 970 < (an incomprehensible abyss) < 980ti" is going to stick for more than two whole years
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