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I can see a PMom, EXAKT, Hal, TMM Scumteam. Looking for posts that would make that unlikely.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:03 |
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Lumpen posted:I can see a PMom, EXAKT, Hal, TMM Scumteam. I don't think you'll find anything between me and Hal or TMM (TMM calling me scummy after he's already outed is pretty null). I wanted to get rid of EXAKT for inactivity, pretty vocally, but Pig seems to be in my corner today so
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:07 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:I don't think you'll find anything between me and Hal or TMM (TMM calling me scummy after he's already outed is pretty null). ON EXAKT: Pinterest Mom posted:You haven't commented on EXAKT, either. Are we meant to understand that your top three scum reads are me, plus two people you've decided are scum because they're linked to me? Pinterest Mom posted:Exakt's vote on merk looks like it's coming from a good place. I don't want to vote for them. Pinterest Mom posted:I think SirSam is a pretty good dunk choice, too. PMom did go on about EXAKT being a lurker, but there was no lynch pressure there so that's very easy distancing. Then the pretty odd gambit-counter-gambit exchange with CPig which reads really weird to me... and then gets abandoned and swept under the rug fast. Was it supposed to provide an alibi? Pig does seem to be "in your corner" today. CapitalistPig posted:Does no one else see how scummy ljtrigirl is being? ON TMM: Pinterest Mom posted:Talk about your TMM suspicion? He's hedging and not giving opinions, is that it? I didn't see much else on TMM, but PM did call out TMM's fakeclaim and did vote him, so that would have to be busing to put them together, which based on that claim I wouldn't rule out. ON HAL: Pinterest Mom never mentions, interacts with, or responds to Hal in any way in this game, that I could find. That is suspicious.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:28 |
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Wait, no, ON HAL: Pinterest Mom posted:Is this a reasonable opinion for Hal to hold? He just played a game with scum Diq a month ago, went to LYLO with him. Pinterest Mom posted:lj, if you want your vig to be useful, take out someone like exakt or hiip or hal Pinterest Mom posted:I guess you think they're BK and Hal, and they're just so bad at their jobs that they failed to convince much of anyone? Pinterest Mom posted:
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:34 |
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No Diqnol literally did add the words "I am scum" to the second, mafiaedited post.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:38 |
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On rereading PMom, I think it's likely he's Scum. I believe Hiip's claim. If PMom were Town, would a Busdriver be likely to switch PMom last night, or would PMom be the most logical Framer target?
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:39 |
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I'd definitely be the most logical framer target.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:39 |
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I am very suspicious of Lumpen.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:40 |
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Lumpen: explain how me and Hal not interacting is a point against me or Hal.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:41 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:No Diqnol literally did add the words "I am scum" to the second, mafiaedited post.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:42 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:I'd definitely be the most logical framer target. Pinterest Mom posted:Lumpen: explain how me and Hal not interacting is a point against me or Hal.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:44 |
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Lumpen posted:Go on... quote:Have you never seen a Namedrop Analysis in Mafia? It Is Known that Scum tend to avoid talking to or about each other, compared to non-Scum. It is mostly an unconscious reaction. I can't remember who used to actually go through and tally the namedrops for a Namedrop Analysis, but it was shockingly accurate.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:46 |
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CapitalistPig posted:I am very suspicious of Lumpen. I want to hear you analyze PMom and Hal.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:47 |
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I claimed VT in my first post and that's indeed what I am.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:50 |
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Did I miss something? Why do we think there is a framer?
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:51 |
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Oh hiipfires result I see.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:52 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:Did I miss something? Why do we think there is a framer?
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:52 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:Did I miss something? Why do we think there is a framer? I got a scum result on BK except he wasnt so im doubting my town result on fiery and scum on pmom
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:52 |
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Lumpen posted:How shocking! I am very suspicious of EXAKT and not impressed with you so far. You know perfectly well that's not how I operate. I don't think Pinmom is scum because reasons. I also don't think anything about hal because I didn't read all the 75 pages worth of crap before I joined. I am suspicious of you because your logic is consistent with not making any real sense and its just lots of words that don't actually mean anything.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:54 |
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Looking over TMMadman, a few choice quotes: TMM's posting about PMom strikes me as Scumbuddy distancing. TMMadman posted:Ehhhh, I think it's just PMom. I always think he is scummy but he always turns up as town. I can never make heads or tails of him, so I just kind of read him and then let it go unless it's particularly bad. I let other people who are smarter than me make the case on PMom. TMMadman posted:... TMM makes a weak case on Hal that doesn't go anywhere. TMM seems eager to get off his own case on Hal TMMadman posted:I'll do some re-reads when I get home in a couple hours. I'm comfortable with my Hal vote, but I can move it. TMMadman posted:Alright, since the Hal vote isn't going anywhere, I'll start with ##unvote . I'll just have to look at Hal another day. TMM never really said much or interacted meaningfully with EXAKT, but when it was clear he was busted, suddenly he points at EXAKT and PMom as "definitely Scum": TMMadman posted:...
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:14 |
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TMM has made posts identical to the first one in the last few games we've been in together~
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:17 |
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Looking at Hal:Hal Incandenza posted:I don't know about the PinMom case. He does spend a ot of time just shooting people down and not commenting on too much, but his post where he sort of cases ljtrlgirl makes some decent points and feels more genuine than manufactured. The point that he spends a lot of time casing her on D1 without voting is fair, but I also buy the explanation about her being new. Hal Incandenza posted:The last time PMom was dissatisfied with his scumteam (and the setup) he just stopped posting period. He's actually making a conscious effort to contribute this game and he's felt concerned enough to make sure we know why he can't post much at the moment. This is not the actions of disengaged PinMom After merk calls Hal scummy for defending PMom, he gets selfconscious about it: Hal Incandenza posted:Fair, it's a little awkward. I actually started to post that I agreed with you (andljtrlgirl) but then halfway through I changed my mind and started all over so it probably is a bit more "constructed" just because I was going back and forth in my head a few times about which way I was leaning. Hal on TMM: Hal Incandenza posted:Hrm that is a bit of pickle. Hal Incandenza posted:It's not exactly a who's who of the towniest players on TMM right now, claim or otherwise. I really do wish we had some confirmation as to what a harpoon kill flavor was. Stabbed is too vague and not quite in line with the flavor I would expect but not far enough off to feel comfortable calling it either way. I saw nothing between Hal and EXAKT.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:25 |
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Looking at EXAKT:EXAKT Science posted:Like I mentioned earlier, TMM is on my radar, but I also the QPQ is scummy and don't think they're scum together. What do you think of QPQ, Rarity? EXAKT Science posted:In light of his recent posting, I think TMM is a good kill for today. EXAKT Science posted:
EXAKT Science posted:TMM probably isn't happening today, tho EXAKT didn't have anything notable to say about PMom or Hal.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:34 |
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Ok. If Hal isn't ccing the cop claim, I think Hal is neutral with diqnol. Hal- Are you neutral with a compatible VC? What is it?
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:45 |
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~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ SUPPOSABLY SCUMMY
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:51 |
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ljtrigirl posted:Ok. If Hal isn't ccing the cop claim, I think Hal is neutral with diqnol. I'm just a fisherman, vanilla town. Sorry!
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:57 |
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I strongly urge everyone to make a LumpenList. At this point, process of elimination can be useful. Look at the evidence, hypothesize who could possibly be Scum with TMM and with each other, and look through the posts to find patterns that support or deny the hypothesis. Then post the fruit of your judgement on the record to be evaluated. If you think I'm wrong in mine, show me why and explain your train of thought.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:05 |
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Oh, we're into fullclaims now? I'm a nexus. I redirect night actions used against me to a random target. That doesn't account the redirecting shenanigans though because someone has been redirecting actions that weren't targeted on me. I grabbed the pearl day 1 because I figured it would be safest in my hands, and I kind of figured that the valuable pearl item was why a nexus was put in the game.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:27 |
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I think I know what that vial is LJ, I have one too.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:27 |
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HiipFire posted:The BK flip, since I got a scum result on him An insane cop and a godfather would be a really weird combination.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:31 |
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SirSamVimes posted:Oh, we're into fullclaims now? Why are you claiming stop. Here's my lumpenlist: Scum: Sams, Lumpen Who knows: Pig, Hal, f_v town: Hiip, lj I'm missing someone.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:40 |
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fiery_valkyrie posted:An insane cop and a godfather would be a really weird combination. That too
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:41 |
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Oh, QPQ. I feel good about him given interactions with TMM, put him in the town bucket.
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:41 |
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youre missing quidproquo
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:43 |
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oh wow im late
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:43 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:Why are you claiming stop. Because having a comprehensive list of who claims what would make it easier to spot a liar. Why are you so averse to it this late in the game?
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# ? Sep 4, 2015 23:06 |
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CapitalistPig posted:Does no one else see how scummy ljtrigirl is being? girl is too erratic to be scum at this point. I briefly considered her as a potential serial killer, but that doesn't make sense either given that her role, if I remember correctly, was independently confirmed. She's probably town. I won't go too far into set-up explanation, but I doubt Ecco would include a scum gunsmith that could give weapons out freely to their comrades.
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# ? Sep 5, 2015 01:39 |
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yeah I get that now.
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# ? Sep 5, 2015 01:41 |
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CapitalistPig posted:You know perfectly well that's not how I operate. Can you elaborate on this a bit? I've found Lumpen's posts pretty straight forward the entire game. He occasionally over-analyzes things, but I remember nothing about his content that "is consistent with not making any real sense." Nothing about him reads as scum to me. If you want to point to specific posts, that would be wonderful.
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# ? Sep 5, 2015 01:44 |
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Lumpen posted:I strongly urge everyone to make a LumpenList. At this point, process of elimination can be useful. Look at the evidence, hypothesize who could possibly be Scum with TMM and with each other, and look through the posts to find patterns that support or deny the hypothesis. Then post the fruit of your judgement on the record to be evaluated. If you think I'm wrong in mine, show me why and explain your train of thought. DREADFULLY DUBIOUS
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THANKFULLY TRUSTWORTHY
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