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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Locker Room Zubaz posted:

How is retina a gimmick?

I guess gimmick is the wrong word because it is obviously the future (present). I have two of their retina laptops I use at work and I have non-retina external monitors hooked up to them and I look back and forth constantly and after literally 4 hours of use I couldn't tell the difference between the eye. Maybe I just have old eyes but it's kind of an incremental improvement over the light-and-day difference of SD vs. HD on televisions or when 2x retina first debuted on phones - you could really see the sharpness because of how close you hold the phone toy our eyes. Same for tablets, retina makes more sense there.

Yeah now that I typed this post I'm sure it's just me getting older.

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EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Locker Room Zubaz posted:

How is retina a gimmick? Hi dpi is the future and OS X is the only OS to really do it well. There is no downside to retina in Apple products because they are the only brand that understands how to put batteries in laptops.

Seriously guys just accept that apple is really loving good at making products that work well and are easy to use. Those who don't accept Apple just want a reason to be different than the majority and are willing to get a piece of poo poo that will never see an update and will be 100% unsupported in a year. But keep buying crap and keeping giving google all your personal data because they are truly a company that loves nerds and respects you.

I can't do poo poo with my iPhone because Apple bans any useful apps from the AppStore that threaten their ability to make money

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Locker Room Zubaz posted:

How is retina a gimmick? Hi dpi is the future and OS X is the only OS to really do it well. There is no downside to retina in Apple products because they are the only brand that understands how to put batteries in laptops.

Seriously guys just accept that apple is really loving good at making products that work well and are easy to use. Those who don't accept Apple just want a reason to be different than the majority and are willing to get a piece of poo poo that will never see an update and will be 100% unsupported in a year. But keep buying crap and keeping giving google all your personal data because they are truly a company that loves nerds and respects you.

lol

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

toggle posted:

isn't siri that big bummed porn lady?

her boobs are also nice

David Copperfield
Mar 14, 2004


im david copperfield

toggle posted:

isn't siri that big bummed porn lady?

she had to change her name to Siri Pornstar, thanks a lot apple

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
i use an iphone mostly because it's good but a nice bonus is idiot cjs who think deliberately making personal computing more difficult for themselves makes them smarter get really mad when they find out i use one while getting paid 3x their salary to write the software they have to support. sorry scrub i have more important things to do than janitor anime .mkvs :smug:

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

Mooktastical posted:

Today, I had a guy call to ask why his iPhone wasn't ringing when he got calls. Turns out, the switch was flipped. Derp.

I had another one last week that relied on the touch ID as his sole method of unlocking the device. As in, he forgot his pin code as soon as he set one. He also apparently had a gently caress load of pictures on it that were never backed up. Well, apparently iPhones won't let you fingerprint unlock after a restart. That was a fun one.

The mute switch thing is so loving common. I used to work for AT&T from the original iPhone launch through the 3GS, then for Sprint from the time they got theirs through the 5S, and people would be in a couple of times a week. Same thing when they added the "do not disturb" function in iOS 7, people would come in complaining it didn't ring, and I'd see the little moon up top and have to explain it.

And iOS 9 makes you enter your passcode every 48 hours, I guess other people were using Touch ID only so they added that in. Fun glitch - put in a bad passcode until it temporarily disables itself, then let the battery die or disconnect it. When it comes back, it'll be disabled for about 32 million minutes and force you to restore it. Really fun to explain that when people come in to get a device fixed and don't have the passcode, and disabled it trying to figure out what their kid set it to.

My favorite 2 issues though - people would buy a new iPhone then bring it back complaining the ear speaker didn't work. Invariably, they left the plastic film on the front, which does a remarkably good job of blocking the sound since you're supposed to peel it off before you use the phone.

The other one was people coming in saying one of the speakers on the bottom of the phone didn't work. At which point I have to explain that one of them is the microphone. People seemed disappointed that they didn't have stereo speakers on their phone, but how would you even notice when the speakers are like an inch apart?

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

thathonkey posted:

I guess gimmick is the wrong word because it is obviously the future (present). I have two of their retina laptops I use at work and I have non-retina external monitors hooked up to them and I look back and forth constantly and after literally 4 hours of use I couldn't tell the difference between the eye.

Staring at my 5k iMac and laughing at this post.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Staring at my 5k iMac and laughing at this post.

Yeah it looks great until you go a site with mixed retina support or none at all or use an old app with no retina assets :smith:

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Who's excited who is hyped. gently caress yeah today is the day

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



This is an apple friend zone. All haters can get out

Fuck da Mods
Jun 27, 2013

fina get poz'd? :cabot: :gizz: :baby:
i love my mac

- posted from my iphone6+

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

EugeneJ posted:

touchscreen laptops are loving retarded

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

I don't deny that but you better believe at the price apple charges it should do everything a windows laptop could possibly conceive of doing, and then more

not being a touch screen laptop means it's better at being a laptop

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008

Locker Room Zubaz posted:

Seriously guys just accept that apple is really loving good at making products that work well and are easy to use. Those who don't accept Apple just want a reason to be different than the majority and are willing to get a piece of poo poo that will never see an update and will be 100% unsupported in a year. But keep buying crap and keeping giving google all your personal data because they are truly a company that loves nerds and respects you.

:allears:

Apple makes technology accessible to the mouth breathing masses. It's just like standard vs automatic. The more control you have, the better it's going to function. Having to rely on Apple's app for everything is poo poo. I am not just saying this to be different; Apple things are legitimately less robust, yet cost more.

Also, the Z1 came out in 2013 and got updated this year. Sorry if you are so indoctrinated to a tech firm that you need to cling to such outdated nonsense. Plus, the fact that Apple continues updates for longer than Android typically does is somewhat nullified by the techno-materialistic fetishism of idiots like you, not to mention that the retarded typical iTard wouldn't update even if they got paid to do so.

Btw, still waiting for you to back up how you're on a subsidy in TYOOL 2015. Please tell me you're on Sprint, lol.

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008

ethanol posted:

This is an apple friend zone. All haters can get out

You, like any era's Mel Gibson, are a stupid racist human being

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Mooktastical posted:

You, like any era's Mel Gibson, are a stupid racist human being
wow calling a racist a human being, that's definitely something

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007
They are calling its new feature Force Touch. Cuz you're gonna have to force to me touch it. Piece of poo poo.

Is the 12" iPad a reality yet? Or just a rumor?

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



This is an apple friend zone, no hate speech will be tolerated. only 1 hour and 52 more minutes!!

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
It's funny that the reasons for loving and hating Apple are equally bad. They break down to: I like Apple because I don't want to janitor my poo poo vs, it frustrates me that it's hard to janitor my poo poo on Apple devices.

Just buy the thing that frustrates you less. It doesn't have to be this big normative judgement.

FormerPoster
Aug 5, 2004

Hair Elf
Insider info: Apple is launching the Sega Saturn and it will be in stores TODAY :hellyeah:

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008

tuyop posted:

It's funny that the reasons for loving and hating Apple are equally bad. They break down to: I like Apple because I don't want to janitor my poo poo vs, it frustrates me that it's hard to janitor my poo poo on Apple devices.

Just buy the thing that frustrates you less. It doesn't have to be this big normative judgement.

I'm obviously guilty of this, but you're right. The two platforms crib more and more poo poo from each other every year, so it boils down exactly how you say.

Ben Murphy
Sep 9, 2001

I like him in spite of the fact that he's not me.

tuyop posted:

It's funny that the reasons for loving and hating Apple are equally bad. They break down to: I like Apple because I don't want to janitor my poo poo vs, it frustrates me that it's hard to janitor my poo poo on Apple devices.

Just buy the thing that frustrates you less. It doesn't have to be this big normative judgement.

people use their purchases to give themselves an identity, when you make a judgment against a product they've attached themselves to, they take it as a personal attack against themselves

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
I looked down and realized I have a Dell keybourd. Using a ps/2 port? poo poo is crazy!

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
their hardware is great but overpriced

I'm not really a fan of their mobile OS

I kind of wish there was an android smartphone as small and good as the iphone

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

tuyop posted:

It's funny that the reasons for loving and hating Apple are equally bad. They break down to: I like Apple because I don't want to janitor my poo poo vs, it frustrates me that it's hard to janitor my poo poo on Apple devices.

Just buy the thing that frustrates you less. It doesn't have to be this big normative judgement.

nerds center their entire identity around being good at a thing that apple destroys so they can't be little kings in their kingdoms anymore so they're frustrated. it's telling because most apple users couldn't give less a poo poo about windows or andoird or w/e but hooo boy will the opposite talk your ear off about how wrong & dumb you are.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Prince of Space posted:

people use their purchases to give themselves an identity, when you make a judgment against a product they've attached themselves to, they take it as a personal attack against themselves

actually apple computers are better than PCs so shut the gently caress up nerd

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Monkey Fracas posted:

their hardware is great but overpriced

I'm not really a fan of their mobile OS

I kind of wish there was an android smartphone as small and good as the iphone

iOS and OS X are slowly turning to crap. Sorry. It wasnt always this bad

Flocons de Jambon
Apr 11, 2015
Any hot news from Huawei? I can't wait to buy a new Huawei. I still like my old Huawei, but I could always use a new Huawei.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Locker Room Zubaz posted:

Seriously guys just accept that apple is really loving good at making products that work well and are easy to use.

this is true but the caveat is they are for people who aren't all 'technical' or whatever and want poo poo to just work with little to no fiddling out of the box. Great for a lot of the population (moms, middle aged people, etc.). They also charge a huge premium for that.

There's the other people that enjoy fiddling and dicking around with things Apple won't let them do on their closed environment stuff or they don't care for the high price for various reasons and so Apple products are not necessarily the best choice for those people.

For example, my friend's HDD on his Macbook just died. Since he is not a techie and has little to no computer knowledge, it's worth it to him to just pay the premium and have Apple fix it (or buy a new laptop - he said his was 'bricked' after the HDD died). Then there's people like me who think nothing of popping open the bottom and swapping the drives out.

It doesn't have to be one or the other for the entire population :shrug:

quote:

But keep buying crap and keeping giving google all your personal data because they are truly a company that loves nerds and respects you.

lol if you don't think Apple is jacking your personal data too though

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008

Necc0 posted:

nerds center their entire identity around being good at a thing that apple destroys so they can't be little kings in their kingdoms anymore so they're frustrated. it's telling because most apple users couldn't give less a poo poo about windows or andoird or w/e but hooo boy will the opposite talk your ear off about how wrong & dumb you are.

I welcome stupid people getting iOS devices, it usually makes my job easier. Figuring out where Samsung decided to move random settings ever other update gets really loving old. If Apple didn't still hold to retarded poo poo like apps not being able to talk to each other, I'd probably be posting on an iPhone right now.

Also, you're one of a few fanbois that are more than happy to enlighten us poors on the inherent superiority of the walled garden philosophy, so saying that without a hint of irony is quite telling, itself.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Necc0 posted:

nerds center their entire identity around being good at a thing that apple destroys so they can't be little kings in their kingdoms anymore so they're frustrated. it's telling because most apple users couldn't give less a poo poo about windows or andoird or w/e but hooo boy will the opposite talk your ear off about how wrong & dumb you are.

Yeah and there's Apple nerds who will tell you how dumb you are for not getting Apple too

there's idiot fanboys for literally every single thing.

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007

Monkey Fracas posted:

their hardware is great but overpriced

I'm not really a fan of their mobile OS

I kind of wish there was an android smartphone as small and good as the iphone

Yeah this.

There hasn't been an android phone smaller than 4.5" for its screen size since the Droid Mini from 2013.

Huge phones are the worst. Even a 4.7" screen is too big for me to comfortably text with one hand. Though I have literal female hands so ymmv.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Necc0 posted:

nerds center their entire identity around being good at a thing that apple destroys so they can't be little kings in their kingdoms anymore so they're frustrated. it's telling because most apple users couldn't give less a poo poo about windows or andoird or w/e but hooo boy will the opposite talk your ear off about how wrong & dumb you are.

Yeah, this is a true and cool point when we get into these weird platform wars.

But I think most users of any product are equally inept. It's not like every Android user is some power-using sperglord. Nearly all of the people I've met with an android phone count "cheap" as their most important feature. And some Apple users are pretty spergy about their workflows and productivity software on their tiny phones (yeah, that's me). If anything, it's weird that poweruser status boils down to micromanaging icons and file systems these days.

Really, we should get together and lament our mutual miscategorizations as grannies or anime hoarding nerds based on the logos in our pockets. :(

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
i need apple to tell me what to buy because i cant think for myself

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I had the first iPhone and the next couple after that and they were good but I tell you what: the new update comes out your phone will work like utter poo poo because the new O/S is 'designed with the new iPhone in mind' (and they'd roll the OS out months beforehand sometimes) and it's just like.... you know they do that on purpose, the assholes.

Although I just got the lollipop update on my Android and basically same thing; fancier graphics that present less information (on the lock screen n drag down thing) and also my phone lags and runs a little slower now.


Just get what you like and stop caring about other people's opinions

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Moridin920 posted:

I had the first iPhone and the next couple after that and they were good but I tell you what: the new update comes out your phone will work like utter poo poo because the new O/S is 'designed with the new iPhone in mind' (and they'd roll the OS out months beforehand sometimes) and it's just like.... you know they do that on purpose, the assholes.

Although I just got the lollipop update on my Android and basically same thing; fancier graphics that present less information (on the lock screen n drag down thing) and also my phone lags and runs a little slower now.


Just get what you like and stop caring about other people's opinions

im getting the 6 s

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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
The only apple products I've ever actually owned were a 2nd gen ipod and an ipod "classic" which was really the last scrollwheel-type ipod released

great products that allowed me to carry around all my music during college before the days of Just Stream Almost Literally Everything

and for what it's worth both of the drat things are still working and in fine shape after I replaced the batteries; 2nd gen I gave to my parents and the other one comes with me on road trips sometimes


Moridin920 posted:

there's idiot fanboys for literally every single thing.

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