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Quote-Unquote posted:yes other companies claim they invented poo poo too what i'm saying is that apple gets an unfair amount of negative attention for common (albeit evil) business practices. and it has little to do with the end product
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momerath posted:what i'm saying is that apple gets an unfair amount of negative attention for common (albeit evil) business practices. and it has little to do with the end product Apple should be burned to the ground, all employees in the west tortured and killed, all employees in the east freed, and any with more than two apple product in their home sterilized as an example for following the dumb.
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momerath posted:what i'm saying is that apple gets an unfair amount of negative attention for common (albeit evil) business practices. and it has little to do with the end product are you a groundskeeper for a football stadium?
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Quote-Unquote posted:are you a groundskeeper for a football stadium? no. i'm gay.
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Mooktastical posted:If you want to complain about how disingenuous an argument is, it's best to not start with a false equivalency. There are no companies the size of Apple. Apple has 21x Sony's market cap. Yeah, this is a good point. I'm not sure how it changes anything, though. Difference in degree rather than kind. I just mean that you could argue that a small town mechanic is a company that might actually care about its customers, but it doesn't make sense for any massive tech multinational. Some companies may care about their customers, just not the kind of company of which Apple is one example. quote:You asked why it water resistance was a big deal, and I told you. That all tech companies are evil should be self evident, even if the only metric were to be labor practices or environmental impact. You and Zubaz both have now asked supposedly good-faith questions just to try to rationalize away the answers, and paint anyone that disagrees as a crazy person for not drinking the all-natural grape Flavor Aid. The market for water resistant phones is the entire smartphone market. Just because Apple hasn't started to implement it or claimed to have invented it yet, that doesn't mean that it's not a worthwhile feature for literally every phone sold since at least Q1 2013. I don't think you're crazy and I'm not arguing with you on the waterproof usefulness point, but customer attachment to that feature. It would be cool to have a waterproof phone even though I've never lost one to water damage. You should treat these things like $800 sugar cubes and if that bugs you, wrap it in one of those cases or buy something that won't bother you. It's not like Apple operates outside of regular economics just because they're large, if there was a demand for a feature to such an extent that it cost them more money than implementing the feature, they would implement that feature. Since they haven't, and are still successful, obviously it's not as significant as some people seem to think, much like removable batteries, reasonably priced storage, physical keyboards, etc. Wanting all or some of these things is a good reason to not buy an iPhone, whether Apple loves you more than Google is not. Don't be emotionally attached to corporations.
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Sep 11, 2015 15:02
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haters itt are the same people who can't help but make dick jokes when a cool & successful dude drives by in a porsche before they finish their cigarette and go back to their mall kiosk
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Sep 11, 2015 15:21
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momerath posted:so they never claimed to invent anything is what you're telling me I never asserted that they did and tried to explain where that attitude might come from. Go jerk off because you're sticking your dick in the face of people who weren't asking for it.
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Sep 11, 2015 15:23
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Necc0 posted:haters itt are the same people who can't help but make dick jokes when a cool & successful dude drives by in a porsche before they finish their cigarette and go back to their mall kiosk quote:
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Sep 11, 2015 15:24
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momerath posted:what i'm saying is that apple gets an unfair amount of negative attention for common (albeit evil) business practices. and it has little to do with the end product Can you tell us how a "fair" coverage of Apple's business practices should look like?
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midnightclimax posted:Can you tell us how a "fair" coverage of Apple's business practices should look like? Just ignore the slave labor and the company's lack of innovation since their evil leader died. See? That was easy.
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Sep 11, 2015 15:25
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midnightclimax posted:Can you tell us how a "fair" coverage of Apple's business practices should look like? maybe don't vilify more than other products it because it's hip and cool
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midnightclimax posted:Can you tell us how a "fair" coverage of Apple's business practices should look like? Maybe just replace the mentions of Apple with "capitalism" and "corporations" where appropriate so that we can discard the destructive myth of conscious consumption?
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momerath posted:maybe don't vilify more than other products it because it's hip and cool Are you sending this advice back to 2010 via time travel
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I'm happy with my S5; does everything I need it to and quickly unlike the 3 year old Motorola Droid HD Maxx (great battery life but it was past its prime) I jumped off of But man this thing looks really plasticy and cheap- other person had it for a year and the fake metallic coating they put on the plastic bezel is already starting to flake off in places It's great but it looks like a cheap piece of crap, unlike apple products which look great and function great Would have wound up paying a bit more for an equivalent apple phone, though In the end it's your choice really but I can't help but roll my eyes at apple's sorta kinda messiah complex. Doesn't have anything to do with their product quality, on the other hand PHONES THE PHONES, GUYS
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lol if you dont have the most expensive phone to post on facebook at work and play crossy road on the toilet
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 Are Macs used for anything other than CGI movies and posing?
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happyhippy posted:
Well, since that image is going with the hard-on collider as its metric for non-childishness, you can see that quite a few of the "most brilliant scientists in the world" seem to choose some kind of MacBook for themselves when they're not shackled to the linux shitshow that runs their experiments. They seem to be doing work things with them too! Just watch the trailer, Apple all over this movie: http://particlefever.com
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tuyop posted:Well, since that image is going with the hard-on collider as its metric for non-childishness, you can see that quite a few of the "most brilliant scientists in the world" seem to choose some kind of MacBook for themselves when they're not shackled to the linux shitshow that runs their experiments. They seem to be doing work things with them too! only because academic discounts actually drive the hardware into a reasonable pricerange like smart people would ever pay full retail for that trash. lol
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tuyop posted:Well, since that image is going with the hard-on collider as its metric for non-childishness, you can see that quite a few of the "most brilliant scientists in the world" seem to choose some kind of MacBook for themselves when they're not shackled to the linux shitshow that runs their experiments. They seem to be doing work things with them too! I don't see you denying about being posers.
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The Goatfather posted:only because academic discounts actually drive the hardware into a reasonable pricerange but they could have still bought the inferiors
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engineers I know always complain when they get to work or to a lab and have to use the lovely windows computers instead of their macbook pros. in the year 2015 enterprises are finally becoming mac based. IBM is completing a full switch to macbook pros. bootcamp works 100% now, there's absolutely no reason you can't have both OSs on your mac. RIP LENOVO PIECES OF CHINESE SPY DOGSHIT
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I would say if money was absolutely no problem (as in I can just spend this money it's not even mine or something so I don't care) then yeah mac laptop divorced from any cost issues I think they're almost unquestionably the best dual-boot it and they're the ultimate laptop here's the thing though- even if you can handily afford it is the money you spend on it still worth it to you? For many people yeah it is but that's not everyone.
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ethanol posted:engineers I know always complain when they get to work or to a lab and have to use the lovely windows computers instead of their macbook pros. in the year 2015 enterprises are finally becoming mac based. IBM is completing a full switch to macbook pros. bootcamp works 100% now, there's absolutely no reason you can't have both OSs on your mac. RIP LENOVO PIECES OF CHINESE SPY DOGSHIT the only reason you cant do the same thing with osx on any superior windows or linux pc/laptop is that apple's lawyers made this a license violation, had their engineers put artificial roadblocks in the way and will sue any company that facilitates it  . It's totally legal though to virtualize OSX on an apple host which totally defeats one of the core benefits of virtualizationwhy do with quality and design what you can do with lawyers
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The Goatfather posted:the only reason you cant do the same thing with osx on any superior windows or linux pc/laptop is that apple's lawyers made this a license violation, had their engineers put artificial roadblocks in the way and will sue any company that facilitates it yeah that's because all the non apple hardware is loving dogshit and apple doesn't want to deal with you making up problems that are purely because of your dogshit hardware human being
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ethanol posted:yeah that's because all the non apple hardware is loving dogshit and apple doesn't want to deal with you making up problems that are purely because of your dogshit hardware human being the hardware is literally the same except for the aesthetic bits you loving idiot
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loma @ nerds not submitting to the god steve jobs
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The Goatfather posted:the hardware is literally the same except for the aesthetic bits you loving idiot yeah that must be why every pc video game thread during launch is a bunch of idiot goons complaining about their driver problems
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ethanol posted:yeah that must be why every pc video game thread during launch is a bunch of idiot goons complaining about their driver problems You pulled this from the 1998 troll handbook didn't you? This argument feels older than I am and I'm not that young.
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Can Mac's play Quake 3 yet?
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The Goatfather posted:the hardware is literally the same except for the aesthetic bits you loving idiot lol
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Has the "macs don't run games" thing become untrue yet? There are some releases for mac OS but I feel like most games come out for windows and the mac treatment is a special second consideration if it happens of course not really an issue if you dual-boot but still
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if u want to be a gamer turd go PC for sure if u want cool fun computers for work and play go mac
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Buy a console and then play the one pc exclusive you like on your 15 rmbp imo
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happyhippy posted:
Different machines have different use cases. Outfitting a command control room like that with Apple hardware would be pointlessly expensive furthermore none of apples products are designed for that type of usage. Theyre high quality appliance machines used for common personal computing. Hth
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thathonkey posted:Different machines have different use cases. Outfitting a command control room like that with Apple hardware would be pointlessly expensive furthermore none of apples products are designed for that type of usage. Theyre high quality appliance machines used for common personal computing. Hth 
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apple.... it's good
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the only two reasons to buy a pc are if you wanna play games or if you're poor, and neither of those things are cool.
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yeah i was just looking for the last photo I saw of NASA using macbook pros lmbo and it wasn't even this one
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Look at the conformity here in this pic. loving cult.
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Necc0 posted:apple.... it's good APPLE BAD!!!
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