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Holyshoot posted:The new format isn't bad. More drama at least. And the chick's and dudes get hotter every year. It's been years since I've seen any Real World but reality in general is something that can basically run forever since it's pretty cheap on the whole thing is pretty much just a concept that you can plug different people in with little problems, unless it revolves around a given host or cast of people or something. Like, Survivor's something that can possibly still be going on after we all die. If the ratings don't dip sharply then there's literally hundreds of thousands of islands and remote locations you can go launch a bunch of people onto with cameras and run games of coconut chess or whatever to decide who wins. I just hope I'm still alive when Survivor: High Earth Orbit and Survivor: Deep Sea Lab both air. Skip Survivor: Low Earth Orbit, it's not as good as High Earth Orbit was. That '70s Show definitely. It's one of my favorite live-action shows I won't lie, but they really had no loving idea what to do with it after long enough out of high school. Should have cut and run with a strong finish in season 5, 6 at the latest to have that whole "Well we're out of school what do we do with our lives now" poo poo that happens to fresh graduates. Which leads us to Two and a Half Men, another show with Ashton on it. That went on way too long and should have been done when Sheen was. Hell, it probably should have been over before then but I was already pretty well tuned-out by the time all that drama went down. Shima Honnou fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Gaunab posted:Most live action adult swim shows should have been canceled after their first episode, the obvious exception being Eric andre. Mr. Pickles is a great show. Its a shame they were out of stuff for Super Jail, its a good trade off though.
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Alain Post posted:B/W TV is very serious to me and there's no way in hell Beverly Hillbillies/Gilligan's Island can even touch the Andy Griffith Show The Phil Silvers show.  Nat Hiken was the poo poo.
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Pron on VHS posted:The Office (US) became a lot less funny after Jim and Pam got together, and became completely unfunny once Sabre bought Dunder Mifflin, at which point there were still 3 full seasons to come! When Michael Scott left the show, it should have been over & done. Everything that happened after that kinda sorta happened, petered out, went nowhere and died. I even hated the loving finale though most people seem happy with that. It got loving bad. Also poor Ed Helms. I've never seen a show decide to gently caress an actor/character so repeatedly for that many painful seasons. ED: Also who the gently caress thought it was a good idea to pair him with a like 19 year old girl, make a huge point of how PERFECT THEY ARE, then just randomly do a 180 out of nowhere? Holy poo poo that whole plot. loving late Office. Tenzarin posted:Mr. Pickles is a great show. Its a shame they were out of stuff for Super Jail, its a good trade off though. I think Adult Swim is the only reason anyone knows of Darkplace, though they had nothing to do with it. Anyone who's NOT seen Darkplace should watch it on youtube. It's only six episodes long but that actually fits the tone perfectly and it's so packed with stuff going on you're bound to miss half of it on a first watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO-ZGP68-3w&spfreload=10 Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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How was Cheers near the end of it's run? I can't remember whether it was good or not.
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Rollofthedice posted:How was Cheers near the end of it's run? I can't remember whether it was good or not. Cheers stayed good until the end of its run, but like most shows, it got more insular and ridiculous as time went on. It also leaned a little too heavily on the comic relief characters towards the end (think latter day Simpsons). Overall, I'd limit 'classic' Cheers to the first 3 seasons and label anything after that (seasons 4-11) as merely above average.
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Junior G-man posted:Every single answer to this thread should have been "Sons of Anarchy after season 2. I think the problem with the show was that Kurt Sutter seemingly had no one to answer to like he did when he worked on The Shield and would just push boundaries and storylines that served no real purpose. The first 2 seasons were excellent, season 3 dragged on and on and on but had a really good season finale, season 4 started to get pretty good but the finale was just such poo poo. Season 5 continued the poo poo and I bailed when they killed off Opie.
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Rollofthedice posted:How was Cheers near the end of it's run? I can't remember whether it was good or not. The attempt to have Sam & Rebecca a thing got old pretty quickly, especially when they tried to have a baby.
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Northern Exposure should have hard cut to black after the first episode of the final season (the one where Joel dreams an alternate New York where all the people from Sicely are his friends/neighbors). The episodes where he becomes a hobo shaman are, you know, kinda interesting and soooooo quirky but the town's new doctor and his wife sucked and the show had clearly lost almost all of its magic very quickly. It's particularly odd because everything in seasons 2-5 is pure solid gold, probably my second or third favorite run of a network TV comedy/drama ever. And season 6 has just enough good stuff in it (Holling's episode, Chris finally getting his degree) to make it all the worse when viewed as a whole. Plus the season 5 finale was a perfect hour of television. S06E01 could have served as a web-exclusive "epilogue" if it had been possible at the time.
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rejutka posted:The Phil Silvers show. Bilko was good stuff. There's a reason that show ran as reruns in the UK for like 50 years or some poo poo. e) but that's 50s TV, which was actually really good! The 60s kinda sucked until Norman Lear and MTM saved TV, though obviously it's more complicated than that 
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Rollofthedice posted:How was Cheers near the end of it's run? I can't remember whether it was good or not. Cheers was pretty much never bad. It kinda survived by being two different shows, it was a great romantic sitcom for the first half, and a great, mostly-comedic ensemble sitcom for the second half.
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Moonlighting. At the end they had whole episodes with Booger and Agnes as the leads because Cybill had twins and Bruce was making Die Hard and other movies. They would open episodes with the actors apologizing for all the show's problems. Bruce and Cybill hated working with each other and all the issues were clearly transferred into the product.
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Revolution. I usually tolerate a lot in regards to sci-fi/post-apocalypse but holy poo poo was this show dull. Terra Nova. If you haven't seen this, don't. If you have, you know what I'm talking about. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Revolution was a weird case because it started off as an action-packed alt-apocalypse show that hooked people at the premiere, then really just went in stupid places (this character double-crosses us, oh wait now he's triple-crossing, oh no I need to save my sister it's suddenly revealed that I have but now SHE'S double-crossing us) from like the halfway point of season 1 to the finale, and then actually started picking up again in season 2 by actually playing out the consequences of the previous finale. I dug season 2 a lot but by then there was no way they'd be able to win back the audience with all the stupid-rear end poo poo that went down prior. Thompsons fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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I know the writer's strike of about 6 years ago gets mentioned a bit, but I wonder how much the 1988 Writer's Strike caused shows of that era to have quality issues. Was Moonlighting one of the shows affected by that at the time?
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JediTalentAgent posted:I know the writer's strike of about 6 years ago gets mentioned a bit, but I wonder how much the 1988 Writer's Strike caused shows of that era to have quality issues. Was Moonlighting one of the shows affected by that at the time? Heck yes it did. It canceled their big 3D episode. Coke made 40 million special 3D glasses for the first nationwide 3D TV broadcast. They ended up reusing the glasses instead for a Super Bowl commercial.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Moonlighting. They just had to have Dave and Maddie gently caress. That ruined everything. To make matters worse, they tried to get back to the show's original format. By then it was too late. Still, it was a clever show at its peak.
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DarkCrawler posted:Revolution. I usually tolerate a lot in regards to sci-fi/post-apocalypse but holy poo poo was this show dull. Terra Nova actually was canceled basically immediately though.
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Fox is a network that seems to REALLY hype up and promote its series before they launch... Until they go to air and they're not instant smash hits, at which point they let them die quiet and forgotten deaths. I think I remember more Fox promos for shows than actual shows.
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Irish Joe posted:Cheers stayed good until the end of its run, but like most shows, it got more insular and ridiculous as time went on. It also leaned a little too heavily on the comic relief characters towards the end (think latter day Simpsons). Overall, I'd limit 'classic' Cheers to the first 3 seasons and label anything after that (seasons 4-11) as merely above average. This is exactly how I feel about it. Once Coach died, it lost a lot of heart, but stayed good til the end.
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The second season of Cheers was probably the best IMO, and the second season finale (two-parter, but especially the second part) might be my favorite sitcom episode ever.
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To me, the worst season was Five. A lot of the Sam/Diane stuff was terrible that season. Like her basically forcing him to propose. Season six rebounded hard and aside from becoming a little too cartoony, never had any real problems.
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Aphrodite posted:Terra Nova actually was canceled basically immediately though. Terra Nova wasn't canceled fast enough because the studio didn't pull the plug halfway through the first airing of the first episode.
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Whenever I hear about Grey's Anatomy, a show I've never watched in my life, my reaction is "Wait, that's still on?" ...I've been having this reaction for the past 5 years. 11 goddamn seasons and an upcoming 12th one. It just seems like one of those shows that will survive forever, no matter what.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Fox is a network that seems to REALLY hype up and promote its series before they launch... Until they go to air and they're not instant smash hits, at which point they let them die quiet and forgotten deaths. They seem to be getting a little smarter about it, at least. Bob's Burgers had a mostly negative reception at first, but thankfully they let it play out.
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WITNESS THE POWER! posted:Whenever I hear about Grey's Anatomy, a show I've never watched in my life, my reaction is "Wait, that's still on?" Speaking of this, CSI (yes, the original one that outlasted its two spinoffs) is finally ending with a two part TV movie next Sunday.
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computer parts posted:Speaking of this, CSI (yes, the original one that outlasted its two spinoffs) is finally ending with a two part TV movie next Sunday. I'd say it was the end of a loving era right there, but there's another spinoff that's still rolling.
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sweetmercifulcrap posted:They seem to be getting a little smarter about it, at least. Bob's Burgers had a mostly negative reception at first, but thankfully they let it play out. Not really, while I didn't initially like Bob's Burger, it kind of grew on me. It's still stuck in the Sunday NFL afterglow hellslot. So if an NFL game goes long, or goes into overtime, it gets overwritten by Football. I understand why they network would rather show a game in overtime but it's getting to the point It seems like Fox should just accept that Football games run long, so everything before The Simpsons should be moved into a friendlier timeslot.
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sweetmercifulcrap posted:They seem to be getting a little smarter about it, at least. Bob's Burgers had a mostly negative reception at first, but thankfully they let it play out. Don't forget Fringe managing to get five seasons despite not only failing to be JJ Abrams' successor to LOST but being a show that struggled to break a 1 in the Nielsen ratings by the end. Even if you buy the conspiracy theory that it's totally because the lead actress is a distant relative of Rupert Murdoch by marriage it was pretty savvy of them to keep a cult sci-fi show going because of its success on other mediums and its online fandom and just scaling the budget and programming slot to fit it rather than nuking the whole thing after one season. That said, I would have kind of been OK if Fringe had gotten cancelled a little sooner since most of season 4 was a waste of time that amounted to nothing new or interesting and season 5 was basically a completely different show.
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Shima Honnou posted:I'd say it was the end of a loving era right there, but there's another spinoff that's still rolling. Yeah but apparently the ratings for that one are equivalent to the last season of CSI vanilla so it might not have a long shelf life. Which in CBS terms means it'll probably get 4-5 seasons and only get cancelled because they have another successful show to replace it.
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WITNESS THE POWER! posted:Whenever I hear about Grey's Anatomy, a show I've never watched in my life, my reaction is "Wait, that's still on?" My only exposure to this show was the Rifftrax Mike and Bridget did for the first two episodes.
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My wife used to watch Grey's Anatomy and it was so unwatchably bad at least 6-7 years ago that it broke even her tolerance for utter poo poo shows. I think the breaking point was an episode where the main character drowned and had been underwater for like 45 minutes or something but they managed to bring her back with some CPR and apparently she's been able to carry on practicing medicine just fine for year with whatever severe brain damage she would have sustained from that incident.
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raditts posted:This also applies to most animated Adult Swim shows. the best current Adult Swim show, by a country mile, is the result of giving a mentally retarded rapist a blank check that really kind of says things about Adult Swim I think
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(Mike Tyson Mysteries is a goddamn wonderful show though, that's not intended as a knock against it in any sense except "holy poo poo that got funded")
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To be fair, I'm pretty certain he has nothing to do with the show's production other than showing up to do his lines.
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raditts posted:My wife used to watch Grey's Anatomy and it was so unwatchably bad at least 6-7 years ago that it broke even her tolerance for utter poo poo shows. I think the breaking point was an episode where the main character drowned and had been underwater for like 45 minutes or something but they managed to bring her back with some CPR and apparently she's been able to carry on practicing medicine just fine for year with whatever severe brain damage she would have sustained from that incident. I had a moment like that with Law & Order: SVU. There was a kidnapped little girl and they find out the perp had buried her somewhere, so Benson and Stabler rush to the scene and shout, "Hurry up! She's been buried for almost an hour!" So they dig her up and she's absolutely fine. Like, immediately, without CPR or anything. After having been buried alive. For an hour.
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Sleeveless posted:Even if you buy the conspiracy theory that it's totally because the lead actress is a distant relative of Rupert Murdoch by marriage It's even sillier than that. Her aunt who was married to Murdoch divorced him in 1999.
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Tomahawk posted:Literally any superhero show Except for The Cape.
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