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 @ESPNU According to ESPN's FPI rankings, here are your top four teams in the country: 1) Ole Miss 2) LSU 3) Georgia 4) Alabama
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Thermos H Christ posted:
Please Alabama should still be number one
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Diggie posted:Is there a fan to his left blowing his hair and face to the side? Bros don't need a fan to get the flip.
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Sep 21, 2015 16:06
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CBS Sports recently had an interesting article about how 99% of college kickers/punters aren't coached at all and basically conduct their own practices, which explains a lot. There's also a very small amount of schools that specifically have special teams coordinators on staff. I'd dig it up, but I'm phone posting.
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Sep 21, 2015 16:33
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RumbleFish posted:CBS Sports recently had an interesting article about how 99% of college kickers/punters aren't coached at all and basically conduct their own practices, which explains a lot. There's also a very small amount of schools that specifically have special teams coordinators on staff. I'd dig it up, but I'm phone posting. I've heard that too. Most times, kickers, punters, and long snappers are just left to their own devices on a separate field during practice, unless they're doing full-field plays or practicing fakes.
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Sep 21, 2015 16:38
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RumbleFish posted:CBS Sports recently had an interesting article about how 99% of college kickers/punters aren't coached at all and basically conduct their own practices, which explains a lot. There's also a very small amount of schools that specifically have special teams coordinators on staff. I'd dig it up, but I'm phone posting. Here you go. It seems pretty stupid to not have coordinators for an entire part of the game, especially one as important as special teams.
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LeeMajors posted:So, I feel like college kicking is at its nadir. counter-point: Marshall Koehn, Bitch I think kicking has probably if anything gotten way better with time you are just more aware of high profile misses. I do not have numbers for it in college, but it's definitely true at the NFL level, where they just moved the extra points back because it had become so automatic as to be a complete waste of everyone's time. And just as a general rule people are better at most things now because The Past Is poo poo. I will stiff arm bronko nagurski's bitch rear end, bring him back to life. korrandark posted:Here you go. It seems pretty stupid to not have coordinators for an entire part of the game, especially one as important as special teams. You only get so many assistants and they generally don't want to spend a slot on a guy to coach kickers. Special teams coordinators usually double as a linebacker coach or something like that. MourningView fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Sep 21, 2015 |
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Sep 21, 2015 17:10
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MourningView posted:You only get so many assistants and they generally don't want to spend a slot on a guy to coach kickers. Special teams coordinators usually double as a linebacker coach or something like that. Or even GA's or the HC if he's not playcalling. Tubs did his own special teams. They sucked. With a playcalling HC, staffs more often have room for a special teams coordinator. TTU added one after years of terrible results. Things got markedly better last year, his first year, and have started off even better this year despite that coach getting a promotion to also coach a position (WR). Mike Leach used a ST coordinator for the longest time as well.
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Sep 21, 2015 17:18
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Iowa had one guy last year who was supposed to be doing it (Chris White, who is still nominally the ST coordinator and also coaches running backs) and they were poo poo. This year all of the defensive coaches are chipping in and we actually have pretty good special teams so far, at least when our returner is not inexplicably catching the ball as it is about to go out of bounds at the two and stepping out with it. But even then he is not attempting to lateral the ball to someone else as he falls out of bounds, so it's still progress! But yeah there are a lot of head coaches who do it, Beamer and Urbz probably being the most famous.
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Sep 21, 2015 17:21
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Raku posted:ban special teams imo and determine field position by having the fullbacks wrestle You could do it like the XFL and have your fastest players go after the ball. Of course it will probably end up like the XFL and the first time it's done there will be dislocated shoulders
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Sep 21, 2015 17:22
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Raku posted:ban special teams imo and determine field position by having the fullbacks wrestle This would give Iowa an immense advantage over the rest of the country and I support it completely. Special Teams Coordinator Dan Gable, boom now all Iowa opponents start every drive at the 3 inch line while we get to start in the red zone. MourningView fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Sep 21, 2015 |
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Sep 21, 2015 17:24
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A brief history of Bret Bielema's trolling http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-bret-bielema-troll-king/
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Sep 21, 2015 18:07
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I've also read that most punters and place kickers just send tape to a guru who says "hey fix this" and except maybe the off-season never really meet in person and talk once or twice a week
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Sep 21, 2015 18:16
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there are camps kickers can go to in offseason, but really surprising to hear most don't have a coach.
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Sep 21, 2015 18:23
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UGA vs. Bama got picked for CBS, 3:30 kickoff
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Sep 21, 2015 18:31
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KKKLIP ART posted:UGA vs. Bama got picked for CBS, 3:30 kickoff Goddamn it. Now not only do I have to watch Alabama lose again, I have to do with Vern and Gary on the call.
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Sep 21, 2015 18:36
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Special teams coordinators are good and cool but just don't promote them to head coach.
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Sep 21, 2015 18:38
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ahahahahaha oh baylor https://twitter.com/CareyWWLS/status/646007654637178881
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:ahahahahaha oh baylor they want the death penalty don't they
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MourningView posted:counter-point: Marshall Koehn, Bitch Well there were high profile misses in the past too--but I feel like there's a reason PATs and short field goal misses seem so dramatic and inexplicable--because in the past they were fairly automatic. Deemphasizing coaching would make sense though. And no, Nagurski would still eat your heart.
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Thermos H Christ posted:
I bet Texas A&M's 5th. RumbleFish posted:CBS Sports recently had an interesting article about how 99% of college kickers/punters aren't coached at all and basically conduct their own practices, which explains a lot. There's also a very small amount of schools that specifically have special teams coordinators on staff. I'd dig it up, but I'm phone posting. Yeah kicking in general is pretty much ignored by college coaches, mostly because none of them know anything about kicking/punting and don't want to spend a bunch of time scouting guys because they're not even sure what they're looking for. It's why these two guys have managed to monopolize the high school kicking/punting/long snapping scouting "business" by being the first major academy specifically designed to just tell coaches "Hey this kid's really good at kicking you should get him."
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MourningView posted:This would give Iowa an immense advantage over the rest of the country and I support it completely. still 7-5
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:ahahahahaha oh baylor JUST LEADING THEM IN PRAYER GOD BLESS
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korrandark posted:still 7-5 We would definitely still only score like 24 points a game. LeeMajors posted:Well there were high profile misses in the past too--but I feel like there's a reason PATs and short field goal misses seem so dramatic and inexplicable--because in the past they were fairly automatic. Like I said, my guess would be that if anything kicking numbers have gotten better as time goes on and you're just noticing the misses more. I don't have the numbers on it though.
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Sep 21, 2015 19:18
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I love how easy of a team Baylor is to hate.
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Crotch Bat posted:I love how easy of a team Baylor is to hate. Arthur is a real piece of poo poo.
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Sep 21, 2015 19:35
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Bret Bielema's comeback after getting verbally destroyed by Kliff Kingsbury.
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OpaqueEcho posted:Arthur is a real piece of poo poo. Remember when everyone thought Texas was stupid for not trying to hire him?
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That Oct 3rd primetime lineup is real bad. Arkansas at Tennessee 6 or 6:30 ESPN, ESPN2 or SEC Network Mississippi State at Texas A&M 6 or 6:30 ESPN, ESPN2 or SEC Network Ole Miss at Florida 6 or 6:30 ESPN, ESPN2 or SEC Network Notre Dame at Clemson 7:00 pm ABC Michigan at Maryland 7:00 pm BTN Oregon at Colorado 9:00 pm ESPN That is very weak. Fox sports decided to not even show up, even when they had a good OU vs WVU matchup they could have put there. Instead, they're showing baseball...
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Sep 21, 2015 19:57
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UCLA vs ASU might be on late but could be a good one if ASU gets its poo poo together this week against USC and we look good/ok against Arizona.
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https://twitter.com/max_olson/status/646025080309309440?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet That Works posted:Remember when everyone thought Texas was stupid
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Sep 21, 2015 20:03
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Art Briles doesn't seem to know a lot about what is going on his team.
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korrandark posted:Art Briles doesn't seem to know a lot about what is going on his team. Sooner or later he's going to have to put the "I didn't know what was going on" card back in the deck.
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Sep 21, 2015 20:09
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Does Finebaum take callers on his TV show?
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Sep 21, 2015 20:12
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Cole posted:Does Finebaum take callers on his TV show? Yeah, I think it's a simulcast with his regular radio show
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Sep 21, 2015 20:16
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Oh man Finebaum is starting off good. Calling for Saban's head with the second caller.
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Tennessee-Florida will be a close game and will come down to field goals in the end, and Tennessee will lose because our usually reliable kicker has gone mental this year for some reason and he can't even be trusted with gimmie 35 yarders.
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@PeterBurnsESPN: First @finebaum caller just compared Will Muschamp to cancer. So it appears we are off to a calm and collected start today.
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kayakyakr posted:That Oct 3rd primetime lineup is real bad. All those SEC games looked like they'd be interesting at the start of the season. Miss St/aTm is still sorta compelling. Notre Dame @ Clemson is still compelling. Michigan @ UMD lollers. Harbaugh camera all day, also Edsall is awful and MD will be a hilarious 7-5 forever in the B1G because of him.
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