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Davros1 posted:An Ordinary Life Haven't heard it, but it's by Fitton, and Fitton owns, so I assume it's good. Fitton's really only gotten better.
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Sep 24, 2015 00:23
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This is literally the most excited I've been since at least the 50th, maybe even since 2005.   Jerusalem posted:I always hoped they'd get Tennant to do Big Finish Doctor Who stories, but never in my wildest dreams did I think they'd get the best revival Who companion back on board as well. loving awesome. Yeah this is just the goddamn icing on the cake. If you'd asked me who I'd want back, it would always be Donna over Rose or anyone else. Of course, we can also get some Captain Jack/10 action as well (but not the kind he or you are thinking )It's good to know David Tennant's constant pestering of Big Finish and the BBC has finally paid off!
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Sep 24, 2015 00:27
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^^^^^ This is just awesome news. Please let it be the adventures of Doctor Donna.computer parts posted:The Doctor regenerates into a quipping half Asian (by name only) girl with Kung Fu Powers. And everybody dies.
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Sep 24, 2015 00:28
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I would like a Tom/David team-up. Two most popular Doctors in one audio? Bigfinish.com would crash again.
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Sep 24, 2015 00:33
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Burkion posted:Let's be fair Yes, true. It's just that we hear "X" has to go every few years. And I know, that people should move on, but it just seems like I hear "X has to go" like every year, no matter who's in charge. ... and is it possible they're might've been "no one" to replace him, because they weren't looking, really?
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Sep 24, 2015 01:30
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RunAndGun posted:... and is it possible they're might've been "no one" to replace him, because they weren't looking, really? I thought that was more or less it. Either he stayed or they cancelled the whole thing.
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Sep 24, 2015 01:36
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DoctorWhat posted:...no. Exactly. And even when they were reliably putting out great material, Big Finish was never really good at serialized storytelling. They're more or less okay at telling one-off "safe" stories that slide right into established material. Every time somebody suggests Nicholas Briggs for showrunner I wince a little. It will never, ever happen, for a number of reasons, but it's really not a good idea.
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Sep 24, 2015 01:46
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Jerusalem posted:the best revival Who companion back on board as well. They didn't announce Rory is coming back.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:03
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TL posted:They didn't announce Rory is coming back. When they do, I promise to be excited about the second best revival Who companion coming back  In all seriousness, Rory was part of the best trio - it's like comparing the Troughton/Jamie/Zoe trio to Sarah-Jane. One may have been the best single companion, but the other was in the best group dynamic.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:11
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RunAndGun posted:Yes, true. It's just that we hear "X" has to go every few years. And I know, that people should move on, but it just seems like I hear "X has to go" like every year, no matter who's in charge. It comes up because Moffat himself keeps saying that he's closer to the end of his tenure than the beginning.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:13
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Ten meets Jamie and they get strapped into a machine that makes them swap accents.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:18
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Tim Burns Effect posted:Ten meets Jamie and they get strapped into a machine that makes them swap accents. I'm down.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:33
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Tim Burns Effect posted:Ten meets Jamie and they get strapped into a machine that makes them swap accents. Kilts EVERYWHERE.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:41
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Eventually I want Jamie to have been a companion for every Doctor. That means we need to legitimately invent time travel so he can do a show with Hartnell too, and we'll get him to pick up the missing episodes while he's back there. Win-win.
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Sep 24, 2015 03:07
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Or alternately, every companion gets a one shot with 6!
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Astroman posted:Or alternately, every companion gets a one shot with 6! Clearly the best solution. Everyone was all excited by T.Bakes showing up last week that they totally glossed over the superior Baker on the viewscreen.
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 Returning to Earth, the Doctor, Sarah and Harry arrive in the Scottish Highlands to investigate the mysterious destruction of several oil rigs in the North Sea. Local superstition speaks of a deadly threat that lurks in the mists on Tulloch Moor, but the truth is even more disturbing; the legendary Loch Ness Monster is a terrifying cyborg beast which is controlled by the Zygons, an advanced alien race who are desperate to ensure their own survival, at any cost... Tom Baker is the Doctor in Terror of the Zygons. X X X X X Cast Doctor Who - Tom Baker Sarah Jane Smith - Elisabeth Sladen Harry Sullivan - Ian Marter Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart - Nicholas Courtney RSM Benton - John Levene Duke of Forgill/Broton - John Woodnutt Sister Lamont - Lillias Walker The Caber - Robert Russell Angus - Angus Lennie Huckle - Tony Sibbald Munro - Hugh Martin Radio Operator - Bruce Wightman Corporal - Bernard G. High Soldier - Peter Symonds Zygon - Keith Ashley Zygon - Ronald Gough Producer: Philip Hinchcliffe Writer: Robert Banks Stewart Director: Douglas Camfield Original Broadcast: 30 August – 20 September 1975 Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cmj12piWog X X X X X Terror of the Zygons serves to both kick off Tom Baker's second season as the Fourth Doctor while also closing the book on the UNIT era of the Third Doctor and is everything about classic Doctor Who distilled into a single serial. Silly looking aliens that also serve as intriguing protagonists. Special effects that both help and hinder the overall story. Tom Baker as the Doctor in word and deed. A female companion in constant peril. A lot of running around. A disused Welsh quarry. And somehow, thanks to some fine directing, production work and an memorable alien menace, it all clicks together to form a solid and memorable story. After the events of Revenge of the Cybermen, the Doctor, Harry, and Sarah Jane find themselves called to the moors of Scotland by the Brigadier. UNIT is currently investigating the destruction of several oil rigs in the North Sea by a force strong enough to completely demolish the structures in a manner of minutes. While the Doctor navigates local politics, Harry and Sarah run afoul of a strange alien force – one who can assume the shape of their victims and have plans for the destruction of humanity, with the aide of a creature of Scottish mythology...  I'm honestly surprised to find that it took Doctor Who almost twelve years to tell a story involving the Loch Ness monster. Inspired by the global interest in the mythical monster that swept the world in the 1960's Robert Banks Stewart started out penning a serial called Loch Ness/The Loch Ness Monster/The Secret of the Loch/The Secret of Loch Ness/Secret of Loch Ness, but as the script writing process progressed, Philip Hinchcliffe suggested a change in both the story's focus and the story's title. In order to work around the special effects limitations of showing the Loch Ness Monster (called the Skarasen), Stewart rewrote the script with the hostile aliens as the central foes, and as such the story was renamed Terror of the Zygons. This was definitely for the best, as the Skarasen's SFX were easily the weakest part of the episode while the biotechnology of the Zygons was one of its most interesting features. The change allowed Stewart to ground the script with a sense of realism, but one has to first realizes that from the very beginning of the story, this script is as Scottish as all hell. Aside from the moorish filming location (Scotland by way of West Sussex), we've got a small Scottish village with bagpipe music playing over the first 30 seconds of dialogue, accents a plenty, an innkeeper with “second sight,” Scottish nobility with a manservant literally nicknamed “Caber,” and even the Brigadier himself in a kilt (no surprise as his name IS “Lethbridge-Stewart”). There's a also a hint of current 1970's events as well; Terror of the Zygons aired the very month the first barrels of North Sea crude oil were pumped from several new oil rigs dotting the coast, causing tensions between the longtime fishing industry and the booming oil business. The story itself is very basic – an alien race has infiltrated a small Scottish village with the overall goal of conquering the entire Earth via humanity's total destruction. There are a few moments of action, a few moments of humor, some good cliffhangers including a smash bang one in the first episode that reveals a Zygon in all its front-suckered glory, and a satisfying conclusion with a moment tacked on that brings it down slightly. If one were to look at just the script, Terror of the Zygons would probably fall squarely in the middle in terms of quality – some good moments, a few bad ones, but nothing that would make it stand out overall. What makes this story special is primarily the production work by the staff. Director Douglas Camfield and cameraman Peter Hall both do a superb job in presenting the action. Camfield keeps the Zygons hidden away during the first episode, with close-ups of their claws and eyes adding to the mystery until the big reveal during its cliffhanger, while Hall does a great job keeping everything and everyone in shot, especially during the “running around” scenes that UNIT and the Doctor do so well. Camfield also makes more mundane moments, such as a conversation between Benton and Angus being intercut with closeups of the Zygons spying on them. The true standout moment is during the second episode, where Harry's alien duplicate is hunting Sarah Jane through the hayloft of a barn. For a few moments, Terror of the Zygons goes the route of Peeping Tom as Camfield shoots the nail-biting scene like a tense slasher movie.   In many ways, Terror of the Zygons serves as the swan song for the UNIT era. During the Third Doctor era, many an adventure focused from the Doctor's time with the international organization as their scientific adviser. Although UNIT would feature in several other Fourth Doctor stories, this serial serves as the final regular appearance for both Nicholas Courtney as Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart and John Levane as Sergeant Benton. Philip Hinchcliffe decided that UNIT's presence meant less time on-screen for the Doctor and wanted to focus more on Tom Baker's larger than life persona. Perhaps realizing that this was the proverbial end of the road both men are in fine form here, with Benton being the everyman soldier who does as ordered and does it very well and the Brigadier as the officer who does what he does for Queen and Country, including doing everything he can to steer the Doctor on track towards the destruction of the oil rigs (“(Harry) will be fine. He just needs time.” "Yes, well, time is the last thing we have, Doctor. Another rig's just been destroyed."). We would see Benton one more time in The Android Invasion, but this is truly his final story, while the Brigadier would pop up in The Mawdryn Undead, The Five Doctors, and Battlefield as well as a handful of Big Finish audios. Terror of the Zygons would also be Harry Sullivan's last story as companion (aside from a throw-away appearance in The Android Invasion). The writers and Hinchcliffe had originally expected an older actor to be cast at the Fourth Doctor and picked Ian Marter as someone who could take on the majority of the physical work. With Baker able to handle his own stunts, Hinchcliffe went against the advice of script editor Robert Holmes and wrote Harry out at the end of this story. While this did give us the absolutely classic Four/Sarah Jane dynamic that defined Tom Baker's run, it's a bit of a shame because I enjoyed Harry's time on the show. Ian Marter nailed the quintessential old-school British man, and for all the talk of him being an imbecile during his time in the TARDIS, Harry was capable (smashing the Zygon console to save the Doctor in the third episode), brave (assisting a fallen oil rig survivor while under rifle fire) and determined to do the right thing, as well as being absolutely demonic during his scene in the barn. In the end, Harry was a fine one-season companion, and I'm bummed that we didn't get a few Big Finish audios with him as Ian Marter passed away from diabetic complications in 1986. I've joked that Sarah Jane often seems to be the damsel in distress, from her kidnapping in Robot to her constant state of despair in The Ark in Space, but this has been mixed with moments of leadership and bravery as seen in Genesis of the Daleks. Terror of the Zygons sees Sarah as both captive (locked in a compression chamber) as heroine (rescuing Harry from the heart of the Zygon's ship). But also seen an inquisitive Sarah Jane as she investigates the Duke's records, as well as...well, Elisabeth Sladen being “cute” as Sarah Jane sticks her tongue out at the Duke behind his back in a nice moment of charm. Sarah Jane's turn her helps set the stage for her upcoming time as Four's lone companion, and it's a very bright future indeed for the duo.  The second season of Tom Baker's time as the Doctor was where the Fourth Doctor was truly established. His larger than life onscreen presence was one of the reasons that UNIT and Harry Sullivan were written out, to ensure as much screen time for Baker as possible. Baker's Doctor is much more alien than his predecessor, having to be convinced by the Brigadier that the destruction of the oil rigs should be of vital interest to him. There's also a very creepy scene (well shot by Camfield) where the Doctor hypnotizes Sarah to slow her breathing down that adds to the Doctor's aura of mystery. What Baker really sells are the Doctor's sudden mood swings and his on-purpose overreaction to the simplest of comments (Duke - “I do believe your serious.” Doctor - “OH, YES, VERRRRRRY”), going from deadly serious to flippant and jaunty in a moment's notice (You can’t rule the world in hiding. You have to come out on to the balcony sometimes to wave a tentacle – if you’ll pardon the expression!”) without any effort on his part. The Doctor's brilliance is on display as he single-handedly sets the Zygon's ship to explode, after a moment where he uses his own body to channel an electrical current to short-circuit a doorway (and it's here that viewers get a first hand listen at Baker's loud screaming that will continue throughout his tenure) as well as giving a hint of his physicality during his final confrontation with Broton.    The weak point of Terror of the Zygons is easily the Skarensen model. The Loch Ness Monster was supposed to be the central focus of the story, but the special effects just...weren't very good. In Robot, the Chroma Key inserts of the Robot didn't take away from the plot itself, but here the Skarensen is just so off-putting that it distracts from the overall story. The climax of the story, where the creature swims up the Thames and attacked a gathering of politicians, is done via the Doctor, Sarah, and Harry starring off-camera, with a few inserts and a lot of piped in screaming, before the Skarensen swims away, and that's the end of it. The titular Zygons themselves are easily the high point. Despite only appearing in this story during the classical era, the Zygons made enough of an impression on viewers and fans to have made numerous appearances in the expanded media, as well as playing a key part in the 50th anniversary story The Day of the Doctor. The Zygons' home planet was destroyed by an unknown catasrophe (later clarified at the Time War), and a colony fleet is on the way to Earth to turn it into their new homeworld, utilizing their ability to shapeshift in order to The Zygons' plot is a little silly (destroying oil rigs? Six Zygons using the Loch Ness Monster to convince the world to surrender to their awe-inspiring might?) but there's no denying just how gruesome they look.  James Acheson did a wonderful job creating the costume, crafting a unique looking creature that simply oozes with what I can only describe as “biology.” What could have been a silly costume is enhanced by the prominent pyramid/cone shaped head and the multitude of suckers adorning their body. The set designers go one step further by infusing their technology with a biological element – a lot of arteries and veins, knobs overflowing with skin and muscle and bone...the control panel actually made me queasy a few times while watching this episode, not because it was disgusting, but because it was disturbing and VERY well done. It all added to the Zygons' uniqueness, added by the performance of John Woodnutt, who acted in several Who episodes as well as numerous other science-fiction series, as the Zygon leader Broton. While Broton is your standard alien warlord who refuses to admit he's been beaten, Woodnutt adds a level of menace that shines through the costume and makeup. The Zygon's shapeshifting effects are well done for the era, adding a level of paranoia to the proceedings as the viewer doesn't quite know who is a Zygon and who isn't (Sister Lamont's murder of Angus the innkeeper is another well done and incredibly terrifying scene, kudos to Angus' actor for his small but memorable part). Cygnia posted:I wanted to take a few moments to deal with the season premiere tonight before approaching this classic episode. I'm not spoiling anything, don't worry. Random Thoughts - Doctor - “Oil an emergency? Huh! It's about time the people who run this planet of yours realised that to be dependent upon a mineral slime just doesn't make sense. Now, the energising of hydrogen...” - While filming the escape from the Zygon's ship, the crew placed the model of the ship almost directly in front of the camera and placed the actors on the other side of the quarry, where the truck they were jumping out of was hidden by the model. Very well done. - Sarah grabbing the UNIT phone as it rings before sheepishly handing it over to Benton. - Sarah - “How do I know you're not a Zygon?” Harry - “Come on, old girl.” Sarah - *relieved* - As I said before, this story is simply as Scottish as gently caress]. Cobi's Synopsis - Terror of the Zygons is a solid story all-around, with good acting, good production values, a good script with a handful of memorable moments and an alien menace that makes an immediate and lasting impression. Next up – The Doctor and Sarah answer an intergalatic distress call that takes them to a far flung planet at the edge of the universe... Tom Baker is the Doctor in...Planet of Evil.
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Sep 24, 2015 03:52
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In a perfect world, Revenge of the Cybermen's place would have been taken by Terror of the Zygons and given us a near-perfect season. But then this season wouldn't have as strong a start as it did, which would be a shame, it's just that Revenge of the Cybermen is such a let-down 
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Jerusalem posted:In a perfect world, Revenge of the Cybermen's place would have been taken by Terror of the Zygons and given us a near-perfect season. But then this season wouldn't have as strong a start as it did, which would be a shame, it's just that Revenge of the Cybermen is such a let-down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLgE0Ok3LI
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Sep 24, 2015 05:11
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Terror of the Zygons is one of my favourite classic Who stories. Despite being filmed in Sussex, it really manages to capture the sense of isolation in the Highlands well. A lot of Scotland is beautifully desolate and empty, just with small pockets of civilisation here and there outside the cities. We see an inn, a clinic, a castle, roads, but aside from our regulars and a couple of stragglers, there's a very real sense of emptiness about the place. I had Terror on VHS as a kid, where it was edited into one long Hammer-esque film, and I loved it. One of its main reasons being that it is so drat creepy. Harry and Sarah-Jane in the hayloft, as mentioned above is a very human horror moment, as ostensibly it's one person trying to kill another in a rather brutal way, not just an alien trying to bloodlessly zap someone. Special praise must be given to the casting of the Sister, whose bulging eyes make her all the more unsettling. The shot of her in the woods after the reintroduction of long-running companion Mr. Rock especially stands out, looking around to see if anyone has seen what she's done. The Zygons themselves are a great design, and I'm surprised it took NuWho so long to bring them back (as well as the fact that they never came back in the Classic era either). I was especially pleased that Nick Briggs managed to copy the sibilant whispering of their speech so perfectly. "Immediately, commander." It occurs to me that I now own it on dvd, but haven't yet watched it at all. Time to fix that. 
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Sep 24, 2015 08:46
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CobiWann posted:Terror of the Zygons Did you notice that the Zygon gives them a lift in the first episode when he had no reason to
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Did you notice that the Zygon gives them a lift in the first episode when he had no reason to  Huh. I never clocked that until now. Maybe it was the real duke? Presumably they actually let the real people out now and again, otherwise why bother keeping them dressed?
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Sep 24, 2015 09:49
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I chalked it up to the real Duke turning out to be an OK guy once rescued, and the Zygon was just keeping up appearances.
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Sep 24, 2015 09:54
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Rhyno posted:It comes up because Moffat himself keeps saying that he's closer to the end of his tenure than the beginning. When he last said that he was actually closer the start than the end. Seriously.
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Sep 24, 2015 10:20
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HERAK posted:If i ever win the lottery I'm paying to get the Laundry Files adapted for tv, Game of Thrones style. There are a few British scifi/fantasy authors i would love to either contribute a story idea or write a full script. It has worked before: we briefly had Douglas Adams. Yes, I've been reading that series. I'm about to start the third one. It's good. I would also be interested in seeing what Ben Aaronovitch might do if he was given another go at it (I read the most recent Rivers of London book a couple of months back). CobiWann posted:<snip> I hope you don't mind me saying (I enjoy reading your reviews but never really have much to add, I'm afraid) that this Cygnia fellow you quote each time always seems awfully cross. Maybe he or she should have a lie down? 
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Wheat Loaf posted:I hope you don't mind me saying (I enjoy reading your reviews but never really have much to add, I'm afraid) that this Cygnia fellow you quote each time always seems awfully cross. Maybe he or she should have a lie down? Cygnia is one of my best friends and someone who has seen drat near as much classic Who as Boston’s PBS channel ever aired. She’s also a drat good writer who has been out of work for a very long time. I asked her to contribute her thoughts to my reviews as both a non-goon opinion and a way to get her writing, even for a little bit. She also LOATHES Moffat as a misogynistic type who can only write women when they’re being coy and flirty towards his male characters and really wants Chris Chibnall to take over as showrunner and…well, she has an outlet now. But I’m willing to take the good with the bad… (And your statement with your avatar just makes it even better)
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Sep 24, 2015 12:13
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CobiWann posted:She also LOATHES Moffat as a misogynistic type who can only write women when they’re being coy and flirty towards his male characters and really wants Chris Chibnall to take over as showrunner HE WROTE CYBERWOMAN
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Sep 24, 2015 12:23
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MikeJF posted:HE WROTE CYBERWOMAN Oh, no, no, no, no.  No, I meant Paul Cornell, the guy behind Human Nature/Family of Blood and Father’s Day. She’s a huge fan of his. I blame the Pope’s visit. With all these street closings my morning commute has been shot all to hell and so has my routine. I’m having my morning coffee at 7:30 instead of 5:30 so I'm more brain fried than usual.
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Sep 24, 2015 12:34
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MikeJF posted:HE WROTE CYBERWOMAN Hey, he also wrote Dinosaurs on a Spaceship. Yeah, that's all I've got.
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Sep 24, 2015 12:56
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Wheat Loaf posted:I would also be interested in seeing what Ben Aaronovitch might do if he was given another go at it (I read the most recent Rivers of London book a couple of months back). That would be great to see, loving the RoL series. If anyone here hasn't read the Rivers of London series, get thee to a bookstore, they're very, very good. Chock full of Who references, too.
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CobiWann posted:Cygnia is one of my best friends and someone who has seen drat near as much classic Who as Boston’s PBS channel ever aired. She’s also a drat good writer who has been out of work for a very long time. I asked her to contribute her thoughts to my reviews as both a non-goon opinion and a way to get her writing, even for a little bit. I see. I did not mean to be rude, of course. The_Doctor posted:That would be great to see, loving the RoL series. I believe Aaronovitch has actually mentioned he pictures Nightingale as being played by Paul McGann.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I see. I did not mean to be rude, of course. Didn't seem rude at all. No need to apologize! She also pointed out to me this morning that the DVD of The Two Doctors is out-of-print and going for nearly $200 bucks now thanks to Jimmy Savile...hopefully it'll be re-released by the time I make it that far in my classics watch.
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CobiWann posted:Didn't seem rude at all. No need to apologize! The R1 release? I bought the R2 version just the other week for ten bucks. Sounds to me like the money you'd save in Who serials alone would make up for the cost of a region-free DVD player!
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Sep 24, 2015 15:24
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"The Two Doctors" is one of the older ones - the second Colin Baker story released on DVD, I believe. Surprised it hasn't had a special edition re-release yet, when stuff like "The Green Death", "The Claws of Axos", "The Ark In Space", "The Visitation" and "Resurrection of the Daleks" all have, when they were released either alongside it or after it. That being said, I don't know whether they released a special edition as part of the Sontaran box set that came out after they showed up in the revival.
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Forktoss posted:The R1 release? I bought the R2 version just the other week for ten bucks. Sounds to me like the money you'd save in Who serials alone would make up for the cost of a region-free DVD player! Yeah, that's been my plan for a while. Just can't seem to convince my wife that it's totally worth the cost of yet another DVD player, and then the costs of importing English DVDs.
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Sep 24, 2015 15:36
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My original copy of Two Doctors on DVD had a borked third episode. Something in the original encode caused the video to go to crap and lock up whatever DVD players I was using. E-mailed the manufacturer's support line and they actually sent me a replacement for free. This was subsequent to it going out of print too, I didn't have to send the original back or anything. Lucky me I guess.
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Sep 24, 2015 15:38
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I thought they'd re-released The Two Doctors without the Savile clip - I bought my copy after all the Savile revelations came out and it doesn't have the offending clip on it...
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Sep 24, 2015 15:40
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CobiWann posted:Didn't seem rude at all. No need to apologize! "Thankfully" most of them only seem to be moving around $70-$100 on eBay. But of all the episodes... I'm going to choose to believe this is because everyone really wants to see the Robert Holmes documentary extra feature.
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You can sometimes find codes online that'll allow you to set your DVD player to Region 0.After The War posted:I'm going to choose to believe this is because everyone really wants to see the Robert Holmes documentary extra feature. Was that not on "Horror of Fang Rock"? (Might be thinking of a different writer.)
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