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The Notorious ZSB posted:I don't mind that as an avenue for them to play with even if it feels a bit like a soulless cash grab based on taking elements from other popular shows and inserting MUPPETS. What, then, would you call The Muppet Show? Scaly Haylie fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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sbaldrick posted:Did the Muppet's always have legs, that was a little weird to me. The Muppets as characters always have had legs. The actual puppets only have legs in the shots where you actually see them. They show them much more often these days though since the special effects to do full body shots are much easier than they were in the 70s.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:30
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Lizard Wizard posted:What, then, would you call The Muppet Show? Not saying the original wasn't, just that it didn't feel as transparent?
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Sep 23, 2015 18:36
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I'll admit it, I laughed at Fozzie's bears-poo poo-in-the-woods joke.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:45
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Caryna posted:I grew up with the Muppets and I still like it the new show. I'm pretty sure it's just a heavy outbreak of rose-tinted glasses syndrome. It's a different show, the characters have moved on an adapted to the current tech and TV (show) business. Maybe it's time for people to move on as well and be open to new concepts? New concepts like watching Fozzy struggle with the disapproval of his girlfriend's parents, or watching Kermit and Piggy's heartfelt breakup? Yeah, no, if moving on means the loving Muppets of all things need to lose their cartoonish edge and become more serious, then I will very gladly stick with my "rose-tinted glasses" and continue to watch my Muppet Show DVDs. And complain about how they never loving finished releasing the whole series. 
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Sep 23, 2015 18:53
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On the topic of muppets and legs: http://youtu.be/aiUOzmy0CUc I have read so many explanations of how they did that and I still have no idea how they did that.
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Sep 23, 2015 19:02
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Diabolik900 posted:The Muppets as characters always have had legs. The actual puppets only have legs in the shots where you actually see them. They show them much more often these days though since the special effects to do full body shots are much easier than they were in the 70s. It's just wrong, it took me so far out of the loving show.
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Sep 23, 2015 19:10
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sbaldrick posted:It's just wrong, it took me so far out of the loving show. I agree, puppets are serious business
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Sep 23, 2015 19:20
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Rarity posted:puppets are serious business Seems to be the direction of the show, at least.
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Sep 23, 2015 19:57
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The TV IV > The Muppets - Puppets are Serious Business
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Sep 23, 2015 20:19
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Jamesman posted:New concepts like watching Fozzy struggle with the disapproval of his girlfriend's parents, or watching Kermit and Piggy's heartfelt breakup? Yeah, no, if moving on means the loving Muppets of all things need to lose their cartoonish edge and become more serious, then I will very gladly stick with my "rose-tinted glasses" and continue to watch my Muppet Show DVDs. What exactly about the interracial relationship between a woman and a man-sized bear puppet who happens to be an idiot and a bad comedian do you find serious?
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Sep 23, 2015 20:20
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Zoot with the rehab joke was pretty funny, but the plot(?) didn't really go anywhere and then it just... ends. Nothing really to hate or get excited about.
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Sep 23, 2015 20:43
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Yeah was there anything after the final commercial break? I flipped the channel and came back and it was Imagine Dragons playing and then credits.
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Sep 23, 2015 20:58
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I really enjoyed the show. I'd say it's more Larry Sanders Show than The Office, despite the docucam thing. It was bizarre and a little bit more racy than I expected. Also Kermit delivers some pretty great sass.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:39
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I'm guessing they are going for a vibe similar to the Simpsons in that it's mostly family friendly but occasionally delves into more adult oriented material, the pilot seemed like it was trying to find the balance but hadn't reached it yet so hopefully once it finds its feet we could have someonthg pretty drat good. Also I'm gonna have to demand more Pepe!
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Sep 23, 2015 22:55
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Wasn't The Muppet Show's pilot episode titled "Sex and Violence"? Think of the children.
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Sep 23, 2015 23:01
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What ever happened to Rolf? I missed his presence
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Sep 23, 2015 23:13
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Jonny_Rocket posted:What ever happened to Rolf? I missed his presence It was said that they weren't ever going to have him speak again after Henson's death, since he was the first Muppet, but I'm pretty sure they've reversed their decision on that. Maybe they just didn't want to bring all the muppets in at once in the first episode? I mean, was Sweetum there?
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Here's something that stood out as wrong: When Honeydew tazers Beaker. It was pure malice. Honeydew hurting Beaker, in the past, had aways been due to being a bit daft and not realizing what was going to happen. But in this case he just attacks him.
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Sep 24, 2015 00:53
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It's the new darker and grittier Muppets
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Sep 24, 2015 01:43
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Miss Piggy is literally Jenna Maroney in Muppet form. I thought it was solid and while no show will ever be 30 Rock, this was good enough I'm willing to commit too watching several episodes. Give some leeway, almost every pilot of amazing tv shows started out only a fraction as good.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:58
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Waltzing Along posted:Here's something that stood out as wrong: Really? I didn't get that. He's still a little daft. He said it was perfectly safe! He was wearing protective gloves, you see.
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Lizard Wizard posted:What exactly about the interracial relationship between a woman and a man-sized bear puppet who happens to be an idiot and a bad comedian do you find serious? Seriously I don't know what show some people watched. Yes this dinner scene where the father angrily accused the bear puppet of wanting to go through their trash and making GBS threads in the woods, truly this is a grim look at the pain and stigma around interracial couples. The breakup thing was a bit more serious but the entire bit was that it ended with her hating an actress who's poster was adjacent to her when the breakup happened. It was a joke. Waltzing Along posted:Here's something that stood out as wrong: I'm almost 100% sure that *Honeydew does something pointlessly dangerous to Beaker* *Someone asks 'is that safe* *Honeydew says 'don't worry I'm wearing (insert protective gear here)'* was a bit that the original show did multiple times.
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Davros1 posted:It was said that they weren't ever going to have him speak again after Henson's death, since he was the first Muppet, but I'm pretty sure they've reversed their decision on that. Maybe they just didn't want to bring all the muppets in at once in the first episode? I mean, was Sweetum there? Of course they didn't have all the muppets there, they were missing my namesake! I seriously wonder if my homeboy is going to be in this muppets at all.
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Sep 24, 2015 04:08
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I enjoyed it and will keep watching for Statler and Waldorf burns alone.
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Bean posted:I seriously wonder if my homeboy is going to be in this muppets at all. Hes the owner/bartender of the bar that they sometimes go to after work - I guess they just couldn't fit him into the pilot.
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Sep 24, 2015 05:33
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sbaldrick posted:It's just wrong, it took me so far out of the loving show. They rode bikes in the Great Muppet Caper back in the 80s, legs are nothing new.
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Sep 24, 2015 07:27
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Davros1 posted:I mean, was Sweetum there? Sweetums tried to drag Animal out of the drum at the end. I loved Fozzie's comment about the hazards of online dating: "When your profile says 'passionate bear looking for love', you get a LOT of wrong responses."
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Dave Syndrome posted:I loved Fozzie's comment about the hazards of online dating: "When your profile says 'passionate bear looking for love', you get a LOT of wrong responses." Not wrong...just wrong for me
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Sep 24, 2015 08:58
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So One Million Moms is boycotting the Muppets. Plus and minus to this. Minus = your kid demo is shot, but the time slot change meant it was probably going to dip anyway. Plus = Anything OMM hates, everyone else races to see, because they tend to suck. So your target adult audience is going to go up.
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Pan Dulce posted:So One Million Moms is boycotting the Muppets. Plus and minus to this. Minus = your kid demo is shot, but the time slot change meant it was probably going to dip anyway. Plus = Anything OMM hates, everyone else races to see, because they tend to suck. So your target adult audience is going to go up. It'll pass. The network would do well to just sit and twiddle its thumbs while those crotchety biddies gesticulate.
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Sep 24, 2015 12:12
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I liked it. If anything, they've toned down the edgy/racy humor. http://youtu.be/g2aeGQLZnRA
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Sep 24, 2015 12:22
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I loved it. It had me laughing from start to finish. Yes it's different from other muppet stuff but who cares? Let them try this and see where it goes.
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Sep 24, 2015 14:48
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Dave Syndrome posted:It'll pass. The network would do well to just sit and twiddle its thumbs while those crotchety biddies gesticulate. Hell of a post, right here.
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CPColin posted:Hell of a post, right here. Can't post "hell".
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Dave Syndrome posted:It'll pass. The network would do well to just sit and twiddle its thumbs while those crotchety biddies gesticulate. 
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PotatoJudge posted:They rode bikes in the Great Muppet Caper back in the 80s, legs are nothing new. They showed both Kermit and Fozzie with legs in the first Muppet movie, so while rare, they've shown them since the beginning.
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Sep 24, 2015 18:41
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Sep 25, 2015 00:43
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If nothing else, click this. The Wilkins Coffee commercials are gold. Scaly Haylie fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Sep 25, 2015 |
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Jonny_Rocket posted:That makes sense. This show, in comparison, is a completely different beast altogether - does anything think it's a reflection on how comedy has drastically changed over the years? Are the writers are trying too hard to be "edgy" and "cynical"? (Granted, when I think of The Muppets, the last things that come to mind are "edgy" and "cynical", so maybe that's the overarching problem here) The original Muppet Show was kind of an all ages show. It was probably one of the original shows where the kids would laugh at a joke, but then setup a joke that the kids would miss, but the parents would get. (OK Rocky and Bullwinkle was pretty good at that too, but how many of us are old enough to argue that point.) I suppose if you want a totally kid friendly muppet show, I know a street where they do that, and if someone were to ask, I could give them directions. I liked the pilot, it seems like it's borrowing a bit from 30 Rock. But since 30 Rock was usually pretty funny, I've got no complaints. Back during the days of the Muppet Show, Kermit was the show producer of a variety show with a lot of behind the scenes mayhem. Now he's the show producer on a late night show with a lot of behind the scenes mayhem. Seems like a decent update to the old formula.
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