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I think Senna is a lot of the issue. With his famous doctrine of "I'll pull into their line and if they are still there we crash" Which isnt racing its just psychotic betting.
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willcrouch posted:I think Senna is a lot of the issue. With his famous doctrine of "I'll pull into their line and if they are still there we crash" Mark Webber and Montoya were probably the best modern examples of that...and usually got away with it.
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1500quidporsche posted:Reminder that Rosberg was semi regularly beating Schumi and is now garbage against Hamilton. it's not impressive to beat a 200 year old schumacher who had been retired for years
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Alain Post posted:These moves are so lovely. I remember Verstappen did one on Sainz, I think, where he was totally out of control with his tires locked sliding into the corner and Sainz had to move out of the way. Commentators praised it, of course. Stupid rear end driving. I think you're mistaking "lovely" for "An awesome sport people want to watch". You know why WRC cant keep a TV contract? Becuase its boring as hell to watch people try to execute driving lines safely and with skill.
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Alain Post posted:Get depressed by rewatching that Arnoux/Villeneuve battle and realising that it only lasts so long because neither driver blocks or runs the other guy wide The reason they kept it so clean was because they drove in an era where there was a real chance of them killing each other if they tried any dirty tricks.
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Alain Post posted:These moves are so lovely. I remember Verstappen did one on Sainz, I think, where he was totally out of control with his tires locked sliding into the corner and Sainz had to move out of the way. Commentators praised it, of course. Stupid rear end driving. It speaks volumes about the quality of F1 drivers that after 7 months of karting this is literally my go to method for overtaking when I need to, and I'm a man who's driving style has been described as "greasy" by 1986 Osella driver Allen Berg.
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My favorite moment of the last 5 years of F1 was when Big Pastor Maldonado actually stood up to Hamilton pushing him off the track at Valencia 2012. Everyone blamed Pastor, because of racism, obviously.
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gret posted:Schumacher did that poo poo all the time. Schumacher would do that poo poo on a straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2YmTUEIens
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Sep 28, 2015 22:58
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So I watched the race and thought the Mercedes blackout was actually a great idea. Some really good fights in the midfield.
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Is it really that new? It seems like at least sky had been focusing on the actual racing since last season. No broadcaster should ever focus on a +20 second lead when 12th-13th are nose to nose through fast corners.
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Nah it's been like this cause people accused Red Bull of making up drama on the radio to get Vettel airtime. Best the lead car gets in a race like that is a full lap onboard when there's a lull in the rest of the pack.
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meat CRime posted:Is it really that new? It seems like at least sky had been focusing on the actual racing since last season. No broadcaster should ever focus on a +20 second lead when 12th-13th are nose to nose through fast corners. It's not Sky's or anybody else's choice, the TV coverage is on a world feed so every broadcaster is getting the same video. It's why they have to work around broadcasts of the team audio as well. Used to be that Monaco and Japan would produce race coverages themselves for the rounds they hosted, but I think it's all done in house now.
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Nice, thanks for the explanation yall
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f1 is poo poo and red bull is poo poo
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I dunno, this is pretty cool http://gfycat.com/CluelessClearHarrierhawk
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harperdc posted:Used to be that Monaco and Japan would produce race coverages themselves for the rounds they hosted, but I think it's all done in house now.
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Bring back thermal cam ffs
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Sure I saw thermal on one of the cars lining up for the grid? Rare though.
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They had a few thermal shots last race but they weren't very good.
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Jesus H Christ. Sauber and Force India have properly thrown their toys out of the pram and have reported f1 to the EU for being anti-competition http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-facing-eu-investigation-after-sauber-force-india-complaint/?v=2&s=1 I look forward to customer cars in 2017.
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CratSock posted:Hamilton knows he can do it to almost anyone on the track, and it's almost as bad as the dive bomb corner attempts made by some of the young guys that depend on the victims not wanting to be crashed so they allow the move. AKA the Senna move, AKA the move done by Hammy's hero I do agree that Nico just isn't as forceful as Lewis on the track...or anywhere, really, and Lewis knows it and totally uses it to his advantage. If the one other guy on the grid that has a car as good and fast as yours is doesn't have the cajones to stick a move, you know that you can just do what you like on the track. That's Lewis' advantage right now. It is a shame that Alonso isn't in the Ferrari right now, I'm sure he'd be able to give it to Lewis (on the track, not in a glory hole palace or whatever gay thing you lads are thinking right now).
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I've said it many times - the biggest way to help passing in F1 isnt DRS, tyres or KERS systems. It's to stop allowing drivers to run each other right off the track without consequence.
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This is why we need Pastor being lapped, so he can wreck Lewis under blue flags.
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So not giving people space to overtake is bad, but people taking advantage of being given space is bad. Goons.
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thermal cam is poo poo
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So um, what do you guys like about F1? (srs)
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Halo14 posted:So um, what do you guys like about F1? (srs) the drama between races
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krushgroove posted:It is a shame that Alonso isn't in the Ferrari right now, I'm sure he'd be able to give it to Lewis (on the track, not in a glory hole palace or whatever gay thing you lads are thinking right now). Exactly. The main reason why this year is poo poo is that its the same as a lot of the Schumacher years, in that the best driver is in the best car, but unlike for a lot of the Schumacher years we do have 2 other good drivers but both of them are stuck driving the shitest new car on track and loosing the will to live.
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Halo14 posted:So um, what do you guys like about F1? (srs)
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Halo14 posted:So um, what do you guys like about F1? (srs) flavio dick dot jpg
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Halo14 posted:So um, what do you guys like about F1? (srs) old dangerous tracks and ground effects
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Halo14 posted:So um, what do you guys like about F1? (srs) At this point, the handbags at dawn style drama, joking about the politics and sometimes during a race you'll get a single nice racing move that has bigger implications to the wider picture (like Lewis' pass into turn 1/2). For on-track action I prefer watching Moto3 motorcycle races. MotoGP has a bit more on-track action than F1 right now but there's actually a battle for the championship this year, which makes it more interesting to watch.
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krushgroove posted:At this point, the handbags at dawn style drama I like your version better.
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krushgroove posted:At this point, the handbags at dawn style drama, joking about the politics and sometimes during a race you'll get a single nice racing move that has bigger implications to the wider picture (like Lewis' pass into turn 1/2). For on-track action I prefer watching Moto3 motorcycle races. MotoGP has a bit more on-track action than F1 right now but there's actually a battle for the championship this year, which makes it more interesting to watch. GP2 is a completely watchable series even if Van Door is running away with the championship.
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Cool, thanks guys. For me so far it's the technology, blows my mind the ridiculous amount of money spent on keeping these things in working order just for a race. I can understand the drama that has to go along with such high stakes. I also spend time watching practice so I can see what gadgets they use in testing & improvement -fascinating stuff. I definitely look forward to and enjoy watching MotoGP/2/3 more. They seem a lot less precious, breaking bones and getting back on the bikes like maniacs the next week blows my mind. I actually look forward to the interviews as well. The grid girls are beyond compare too...
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Fast cars go vroom. Seriously, don't overanalyse it.
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Jedit posted:Fast cars go vroom. Adults throwing tantrums, billion dollar businesses sucking and quitting. Watches painted on gloves, exotic third world locations. My F1.
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I've literally never watched F1 before this season and the races are kinda boring but I enjoy fast cars go vroom.
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Halo14 posted:Cool, thanks guys. Definitely the tech is amazing, but some of the really interesting stuff has been outlawed pretty quickly (fan cars, mass dampers, coanda exhausts, exhaust-diffuser stuff) but it's worth keeping up with things just to appreciate the next technical advance. Keeping the tech relevant for the general public vs providing ways for engineers to really advance auto tech is a tough line to walk for the FIA, but to me getting close to an F1, LMP or other really high-end racing car is super super interesting, just trying to absorb all the tiny aero vanes and scoops and slots and things. And yeah in general motorcycle racers in all classes are the hardest fuckers out there.
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krushgroove posted:Definitely the tech is amazing, but some of the really interesting stuff has been outlawed pretty quickly (fan cars, mass dampers, coanda exhausts, exhaust-diffuser stuff) but it's worth keeping up with things just to appreciate the next technical advance. Keeping the tech relevant for the general public vs providing ways for engineers to really advance auto tech is a tough line to walk for the FIA, but to me getting close to an F1, LMP or other really high-end racing car is super super interesting, just trying to absorb all the tiny aero vanes and scoops and slots and things. This. It's absolutely fascinating what people try to do to break the mold (as you note the fan-car, ground effects, etc). Seeing whatever one team does to gain a competitive advantage is great. I think my favorite was when Murray made that tiny bleed valve in the suspension system, and made a fake box on the car to gently caress with other teams to prevent them from figuring out how the car was lower on the track but the legal ride height when it was stationary.  And The Worst Thread are what I like about F1. GramCracker fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Sep 29, 2015 |
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