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They did a pretty good job at destroying Occupy Wall Street, and co-opting economic protests with widespread support into some kind of stupid social justice circlejerk that annoyed everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCwhlZtHhWs
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# ? May 6, 2024 02:16 |
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Can we talk about mescalin-ity instead of masculinity?
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 19:42 |
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This is the acceptable level hth:
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:00 |
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http://i.imgur.com/fdHPaev.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WiUI6m0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fdHPaev.jpg
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:00 |
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I love the blanket stereotypes being thrown around itt: either all men are completely macho hulk hogan wannabes or screeching scrotum-less boys like that youtube vid. Seriously most men don't act like either of those and most women are not feminists, its just one vocal minority shrieking about the opposite vocal minority.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:03 |
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akasnowmaaan posted:Are you saying everyone or just shallow people in their early 20's every woman in your life would tolerate significantly more sexism from a hot man than they would from an ugly man. Every one of them, especially your mom. Neurolimal posted:nooz flash: hot people get away with more stuff exactly, that's what I'm trying to tell these people. The acceptability of any of your actions is determined by your desirability. That doesn't mean that you should take the red pill and buy a fedora, it means if you want to be a sexist rear end in a top hat full of toxic masculinity and be rewarded for it you better be sexy and/or rich
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:06 |
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Frosted Flake posted:They did a pretty good job at destroying Occupy Wall Street, and co-opting economic protests with widespread support into some kind of stupid social justice circlejerk that annoyed everyone. lol ya, it was feminists who destroyed OWS
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:19 |
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City of Tampa posted:every woman in your life would tolerate significantly more sexism from a hot man than they would from an ugly man. Every one of them, especially your mom. I wouldn't, as I am gay
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:24 |
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your handsome charms have no power over me now ruby rose on the other hand...
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:25 |
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nomadologique posted:lol ya, it was feminists who destroyed OWS
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:37 |
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Wow, can't believe all this feminism, there is sure a lot of that, it's everywhere, it's on the walls and I found some in my cupboards.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 20:50 |
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Game_Whino posted:I'm apparently catnip to feminists. What they seem to want is a guy who acts like a guy but doesn't do that stupid "He-Man women hater's" club bullshit. They don't seem to care that much about body shape, but they do care about grooming habits. Basically they want you to shower, shave/trim, comb your hair, don't stare at their tits unless you're invited to, look them in the eye when you're talking to them, and talk to them like they're human beings instead of sex toys. They're really not asking for much. Have you considered that you guys might just be gross losers? Game_Whino posted:I'm not a chubby chaser. I just don't generally give a poo poo if someone is fat or skinny as long as they aren't complete assholes and can hold a conversation. That said, the skinny one's tend to be a lot more aggressive and have more trouble taking no for an answer. Even after you've explained that you don't like them in that particular way, they still keep at it. I didn't mind it that much back when I was single, but I've been married for a while now and it gets really annoying really quickly. The only way to get them to back off is to point out to them that they're acting in an inappropriate manner that's probably influenced by some ingrained patriarchal bullshit.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:05 |
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Game_Whino posted:I'm apparently catnip to feminists. What they seem to want is a guy who acts like a guy but doesn't do that stupid "He-Man women hater's" club bullshit. They don't seem to care that much about body shape, but they do care about grooming habits. Basically they want you to shower, shave/trim, comb your hair, don't stare at their tits unless you're invited to, look them in the eye when you're talking to them, and talk to them like they're human beings instead of sex toys. They're really not asking for much. Have you considered that you guys might just be gross losers? heresy quote:Lesbians make better friends for guys. They don't hit on you constantly (and if they do they're obviously joking) and can give you insightful advice (usually while playing pool) in the event you have a fight with your wife because women keep coming on to you while she's around. also true
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:05 |
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yall should go gay, life is easier when your friends are also your casual fuckbuddies
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:07 |
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Moridin920 posted:heresy I'm disappointed that these didn't just make you want to laugh at the person who posted them. It has to be one of the worst attempts at humblebragging I've seen on these forums.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:09 |
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quakster posted:lack of a collective identity killed occupy with spoons so not feminism but a lack of focus, i agree
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:10 |
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Ambrose Burnside posted:so not feminism but a lack of focus, i agree There Was focus though. The focus was on Wall Street robbing the country blind and on income inequality. Then the SJWs and co. started dragging all their pet social issues into it, and it became a muddled mess.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:27 |
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Frosted Flake posted:There Was focus though. The focus was on Wall Street robbing the country blind and on income inequality. Then the SJWs and co. started dragging all their pet social issues into it, and it became a muddled mess. SJWs and co.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:31 |
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My girlfriend and I are going down to SJWs and Co. this weekend to pick out a new coffee table.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:32 |
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Neurolimal posted:only when all that is left are caramel guys with cunts and mulatto girls with dicks shall all discrimination be over Kix rule I am kixsexual and how dare you erase my kixperiences
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:34 |
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If you can't accept that there is a bit of clash between leftist that consider economic issues most important vs leftist that consider social issues most important in 2015 then I dunno what to tell ya net cafe scandal but yeah our inability to set differences aside and unite against a common enemy has been both a present and historic barrier to progressives.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:35 |
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Ever heard of a comma, dude?
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:36 |
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net cafe scandal posted:Ever heard of a comma, dude?
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:37 |
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Frosted Flake posted:There Was focus though. The focus was on Wall Street robbing the country blind and on income inequality. Then the SJWs and co. started dragging all their pet social issues into it, and it became a muddled mess. the movement was never focused beyond "general discontent with economic matters" and from the very beginning diverged enormously in scope and goal depending on the location, sometimes doing good + concrete work and sometimes full of feelgood liberal horseshit. the occupy group in my city was heavily driven and concerned with first nations matters, for ex, touching on both social and economic issues that never got a word of mention in, say, american city occupy camps. "SJWs ruined everything" is some top tier revisionism tho Ambrose Burnside fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Sep 30, 2015 |
# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:47 |
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unfortunately economics in 2015 are complicated enough that you can take the average pissed off person and start babbling at them until they feel retarded and go 'fine capitalism is fine' just out of surrender it's hard to get people riled up without something simple for them to back but there's no simple solutions here that can fit into easy soundbites. not impossible, but unfortunately this also means it is very easy to derail. all you need is some people trying to muddy everything and an opposition that doesn't care about rational discourse and prefers to call you an evil communist muslim satanman then gently caress up public education and hey you've got US politics, 2015. The right is retarded, the left can't stop arguing with each other long to organize or even form a coherent platform, and no one knows poo poo so they don't sit around talking about how hosed they're getting. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Sep 30, 2015 |
# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:49 |
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im going to do some MANscaping when I get home.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:53 |
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ArbitraryC posted:If you can't accept that there is a bit of clash between leftist that consider economic issues most important vs leftist that consider social issues most important in 2015 then I dunno what to tell ya net cafe scandal but yeah our inability to set differences aside and unite against a common enemy has been both a present and historic barrier to progressives. i don't think the left is really split on social vs economic issues being more important. usually seems like the various ideologies under the leftist umbrella balkanize over implementation, not the underlying ideas
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 21:55 |
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All I'm saying is that there are better ways to go about it than sitting in a park, and talking in a special order to avoid hurting feelings. Trade Unionism, for example has a clear purpose, method of organization, funding and (had) public support (once). Look at a General Strike vs Occupy and you can see the difference. Now you get "Unions were traditionally opposed to women and Blacks in the workforce, so we can't work with them. Economic issues are secondary to trans/indigenous/feminist... " Nothing gets done.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:03 |
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Mental-Rectangle posted:i don't think the left is really split on social vs economic issues being more important. usually seems like the various ideologies under the leftist umbrella balkanize over implementation, not the underlying ideas I dunno, I feel like it's a common thing. Almost every discussion of privilege revolves around social identities rather than class for example. Also you see stuff like social activists from expensive private universities crashing Bernie Sanders rallies.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:04 |
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net cafe scandal posted:Ever heard of a comma, dude?
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:06 |
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It's funny because money is the gateway to social change. No one is going to oppress a market demographic with money.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:06 |
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City of Tampa posted:every woman in your life would tolerate significantly more sexism from a hot man than they would from an ugly man. Every one of them, especially your mom. This is true.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:10 |
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Frosted Flake posted:All I'm saying is that there are better ways to go about it than sitting in a park, and talking in a special order to avoid hurting feelings. all that is fine except the "sjws ruined the focus" as a blanket statement straight up did not happen. the structure and dynamics of occupy groups fundamentally worked against concerted n tightly-focused work, that was never the point of the movement at any point. id just as soon say the 9/11 truthers or the GMO weirdos or any of the other pet issue people were all bigger distractions and diversions than the social issues people cause they all got plenty of message boosting towards issues that had even less to do with occupy's grievances than the people trying to include social stuff in dialogues
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:11 |
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ArbitraryC posted:Also you see stuff like social activists from expensive private universities crashing Bernie Sanders rallies. Truth. Well-meaning trust fund babies referring to Black Canadians as "People Of Colour" or "POCs" and deigning to speak on our behalf is lol. The pearl clutching should they ever happen to be in a Black neighbourhood is pretty hilarious, since Jane-Finch may as well be Iraq as far as they're concerned. Ambrose Burnside posted:all that is fine except the "sjws ruined the focus" as a blanket statement straight up did not happen. the structure and dynamics of occupy groups fundamentally worked against concerted n tightly-focused work, that was never the point of the movement at any point. id just as soon say the 9/11 truthers or the GMO weirdos or any of the other pet issue people were all bigger distractions and diversions than the social issues people cause they all got plenty of message boosting towards issues that had even less to do with occupy's grievances than the people trying to include social stuff in dialogues That's a good point. I'm just frustrated because I feel like the bad optics of OCW set back any future movement in the public's eyes a fair bit. It's like how the Battle of Seattle or Toronto G20 is about the underlying issues for some people, but tear gas and burning police cars for more. Frosted Flake fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Sep 30, 2015 |
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For instance, how do we solve the energy crisis and get off fossil fuels? You'll get an argument in a room full of leftists over nuclear power. How do we solve world hunger? You'll get an argument in a room full of leftists over genetically modified crops. How do we fix economic issue 'x'? The speed of implementation of the solution will range from gradually voting for less bad people until you start getting good people, vs bloody revolution hail satan im gay full communism now. The issue here is that in our attempt at creating intellectual safe spaces to discuss all sides of the ideas, we leftists have kind of allowed a lot of people on our side to get away with having loving retarded opinions. when you leave that door open, people naturally infiltrate all positive progressive movements and use them as a base of operations to build their own insular ideologies within them. basically a purge is necessary. ArbitraryC posted:I dunno, I feel like it's a common thing. Almost every discussion of privilege revolves around social identities rather than class for example. Also you see stuff like social activists from expensive private universities crashing Bernie Sanders rallies. iirc the black lives matter girls turned out to be republican false flags Discussion of privilege tends to be focused more on creating a reverse hierarchy within a movement that places whoever thinks they deserve the biggest pity parade on top. It's identity politics usually. It ties back into what I was saying about people using progressive safe-spaces to cultivate insular attitudes.
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:14 |
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Mental-Rectangle posted:iirc the black lives matter girls turned out to be republican false flags What?
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:17 |
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ArbitraryC posted:What? http://reverbpress.com/politics/black-lives-matter-seattle-protestor-is-a-former-tea-party-palin-fan/
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 22:20 |
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QUEEN CAUCUS posted:Kix rule no dice prepare to be kixshamed
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Mental-Rectangle posted:http://reverbpress.com/politics/black-lives-matter-seattle-protestor-is-a-former-tea-party-palin-fan/ e: like I'm flabbergasted people would more willingly believe this is a false flag thing rather than the reality of the environment we've created in modern social identity politics. It's not a surprise at all that someone who's latched onto this would previously have been a diedhard tea partyer, it's pretty much two sides of the same coin. ArbitraryC fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Sep 30, 2015 |
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I went to the Occupy thing in Tampa right before the loving RNC convention was here thinking that there would be some real political protest going on, and as I was walking up to it I saw a crusty gutter punk with giant mutilated earlobes and sleeved up tattoo arms doing that loving annoying "community megaphone" thing and I just turned around and left without even going into the park.
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