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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

The shooter has been identified, 26yr old (not 20, as originally reported).

Another account of the shooter had him asking if the student was christian -- if replied yes, he shot them in the head; if no, he wounded them.

e: Not posting his name or picture but they are out there

Well, War on Christians Confirmed.


:smith:

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Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Trabisnikof posted:

Well, War on Christians Confirmed.


:smith:

Well people have been screaming for it for so long I guess it had to start sometime.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005

Tatum Girlparts posted:

So do meth labs get a free pass then, or just zip guns?

No, not a free pass, just using it as an example. What will probably happen is the same thing that happened with meth, the local product will be supplanted by cheaper imports made in Mexico.

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Trabisnikof posted:

Well, War on Christians Confirmed.


:smith:

im okay with it

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Milk Malk posted:

You asked for it.



This is a direct comparison of U.S. violent crime in areas with AND without gun control legislation. Germany before and after guns were removed as well. Guess when there was more violent crime?

this is a bad graph that doesn't define its data, how are you posting this like it proves anything

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



One victim short of having two mass shootings in one day: http://www.rt.com/usa/317311-inglis-shooting-town-hall/

Edit: Reports are saying "at least 3 dead with more injured", so America might just pull it off.

news posted:

Police are responding to reports of shooting outside of town hall in Inglis, Florida. Witnesses say there are multiple victims, according to local TV stations.

The Levy County Sheriff’s office has confirmed that at least three have been shot dead and 1 airlifted to UF Health Shands Gainesville with serious injuries, TV 20 reports.

Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Oct 2, 2015

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

The shooter has been identified, 26yr old (not 20, as originally reported).

Another account of the shooter had him asking if the student was christian -- if replied yes, he shot them in the head; if no, he wounded them.

e: Not posting his name or picture but they are out there

reminder that testimony from these things is incredibly suspect

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005

FAUXTON posted:

Gunbunnies are always caught in the best type of pickle when they talk about wanting a social safety net, because they also refuse to vote for anyone in the only major party who gives a poo poo about funding social services since they caucus with Feinstein.

If the anti-gun beliefs of the candidate are the thing preventing the candidate from being elected, maybe they should change their views?

Or is it better to have the correct political beliefs and remain out of power?

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

The shooter has been identified, 26yr old (not 20, as originally reported).

Another account of the shooter had him asking if the student was christian -- if replied yes, he shot them in the head; if no, he wounded them.

e: Not posting his name or picture but they are out there
Wasn't that poo poo spread after Columbine and turned out to be not true, and then Rick Santorum pulled it out at the last GOP debate?

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Armyman25 posted:

Or is it better to have the correct political beliefs and remain out of power?

yes

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Armyman25 posted:

If the anti-gun beliefs of the candidate are the thing preventing the candidate from being elected, maybe they should change their views?

Or is it better to have the correct political beliefs and remain out of power?

see the joke is that you claim that you want a thing, but then because they disagree with you about the thing you actually want, you won't vote for them, while still going "but i want that thing!"

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!
Guns are more important than lives in America

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005
Man it's sure nice that all it takes is someone murdering innocent students to get people talking about how much they hate gun regulation.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Wasn't that poo poo spread after Columbine and turned out to be not true, and then Rick Santorum pulled it out at the last GOP debate?

sort of. i linked a wiki page but the short version is that a story spread that klebold asked one of the victims, cassie bernall, if she believed in god, and shot her when she said yes

this conversation most likely didn't actually happen, but there's still a book about it

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Armyman25 posted:

If the anti-gun beliefs of the candidate are the thing preventing the candidate from being elected, maybe they should change their views?

Or is it better to have the correct political beliefs and remain out of power?

It's nice to see that you'd really rather see tons of people die due to inadequate social services, rather than have one fewer gun. And you think we should consider scum like you rational people.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Armyman25 posted:

No, not a free pass, just using it as an example. What will probably happen is the same thing that happened with meth, the local product will be supplanted by cheaper imports made in Mexico.

Armyman doesn't want to have to deal with the shame of getting murdered by a hard to find Mexican knockoff gun. If he goes out: he wants to make sure he dies staring down the barrel of a good 'ol high quality American firearm you can get just about anywhere.

Bullfrog
Nov 5, 2012

Apparently, this is one of the shooter's accounts: https://archive.is/bfbMx

This is getting weirder and weirder.

EDIT: I can't confirm the veracity of this so I'm just going to say take it with an enormous grain of salt.

Bullfrog fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Oct 2, 2015

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Bullfrog posted:

Apparently, this is one of his accounts: https://archive.is/bfbMx

This is getting weirder and weirder.

who, armyman?

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
I would not have expected a self identified conservative with a profile name of IRONCROSS45 to be a mixed race dude that is up for interracial dating.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Meanwhile, in reality, it's massive numbers of American made guns that are overwhelming Mexican gun laws ever since we lifted our ban on the kinds of weapons used by the cartels et al.

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

eviltastic posted:

I would not have expected a self identified conservative with a profile name of IRONCROSS45 to be a mixed race dude that is up for interracial dating.
It's a popular symbol in some punk and biker circles, doesn't automatically associate you with white supremacy.

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Gail Wynand posted:

It's a popular symbol in some punk and biker circles, doesn't automatically associate you with white supremacy.

uh

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

lover, conservative, professional, intellectual, introvert


:commissar:

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

I should have specified, not just the neo-Nazi ones.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Trabisnikof posted:

Meanwhile, in reality, it's massive numbers of American made guns that are overwhelming Mexican gun laws ever since we lifted our ban on the kinds of weapons used by the cartels et al.
I'm sure Los Zetas bought their Huey gunship from a Gander Mountain in Arizona somewhere.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Armyman25 posted:

No, not a free pass, just using it as an example. What will probably happen is the same thing that happened with meth, the local product will be supplanted by cheaper imports made in Mexico.

But...those cheap Mexican guns are often coming from us...

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot

Lessail posted:

Guns are more important than lives in America

If lives were so important, the Founders would have put the right to life in the Constitution along side the right to own guns and the right to not have soldiers crash at your house.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Meat Recital posted:

If lives were so important, the Founders would have put the right to life in the Constitution along side the right to own guns and the right to not have soldiers crash at your house.
Fun fact: There has been only one 3rd Amendment case heard by the Supreme Court.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Rent-A-Cop posted:

I'm sure Los Zetas bought their Huey gunship from a Gander Mountain in Arizona somewhere.

While movies might lead you to think otherwise, most of the deaths from the drug war in Mexico weren't from helicopters.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Trabisnikof posted:

While movies might lead you to think otherwise, most of the deaths from the drug war in Mexico weren't from helicopters.
Well then they need to step that poo poo up because if it isn't cool I'm not interested.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Trabisnikof posted:

Meanwhile, in reality, it's massive numbers of American made guns that are overwhelming Mexican gun laws ever since we lifted our ban on the kinds of weapons used by the cartels et al.

Yes and no. Lots of Mexican guns came from the US, but overwhelmingly either got there through legal sales to Mexican police and military units the cartels stole them from, or else got smuggled over the southern border thanks to decades of the US government arming up the rest of Latin America. The popular article about the percentage of Mexican guns traced to the US was based on a subset of a subset that got submitted to the US for tracking, since guns with no serial numbers or that obviously didn't come from US civilian channels weren't going to be submitted in the first place.

Not to say the cartels don't like them some smuggled guns from straw purchasers in Texas, but they're a minority and disproportionately are blinged up showpiece status symbols rather than what's being used for crime. The leftovers from cold war death squads get the work done, but they're less pretty.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Gail Wynand posted:

It's a popular symbol in some punk and biker circles, doesn't automatically associate you with white supremacy.

Those circles have considerable overlap with nazis just FYI

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Gail Wynand posted:

It's a popular symbol in some punk and biker circles, doesn't automatically associate you with white supremacy.

Uh...those two circles have a lot of nazis...

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop
CNN is reporting one rifle and 3 handguns (the four weapons reportedly belonging to the shooter). Police are at his apartment now.

e: Now I'm watching Hannity and can't help but laugh listening to them mentioning 4Chan

BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Oct 2, 2015

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
so did he end up posting on r9k or was that just a coincidence?

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
So can we stop talking about guns and instead discuss who is going to be the next House Majority Leader?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Stereotype posted:

So can we stop talking about guns and instead discuss who is going to be the next House Majority Leader?

Sure. This is America, man, you can talk about whatever you want. :patriot:

I thought it was clearly going to be McCarthy.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Stereotype posted:

So can we stop talking about guns and instead discuss who is going to be the next House Majority Leader?

McCarthy.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Stereotype posted:

So can we stop talking about guns and instead discuss who is going to be the next House Majority Leader?

No. Can't let things like the fact that the debt ceiling was moved up to Nov. 4 distract us from the real issues.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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ComradeCosmobot posted:

No. Can't let things like the fact that the debt ceiling was moved up to Nov. 4 distract us from the real issues.

This is actually good because it means Boehner can raise it before he leaves

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