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Would I be dumb for buying a ZJ with 200K milage on the odometer. It has the 4.0L engine, it appears to have no rust but has some rocker panel damage and a cracked rear bumper.
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How much? For under a thousand dollars, I'd jump on that.
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Cat Hatter posted:I have a Michigan-raised '98 XJ with a factory tow hitch that's gotten pretty rusty. Is this one of the things (like rear shock bolts Well, I got my sending unit out, but broke both the hanger bolts in the process so I need to either buy a pair from the dealership tomorrow or head out to the junkyard to see how clean the Atlanta Jeeps are.
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) where the bolts break if I try to remove the nuts, or should it come right off if I apply enough muscle?
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Sorry for making this "HELP TOPHATS CHOOSE A JEEP" but what do y'all think of this? https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/cto/5199037463.html I don't see any panel rust, so I'm actually interested
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That hood is all kinds of jacked up and in a way that I don't think it's just been popped.
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Yeah something is up with that one--all the mangled panels around the hood are sketchy. The price is a little too low IMHO too given the year and mileage.
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Cat Hatter posted:I have a Michigan-raised '98 XJ with a factory tow hitch that's gotten pretty rusty. Is this one of the things (like rear shock bolts The hitch bolts don't hold anything else except some dumb heat shields on so go for it. Also they go into a nut strip you can buy brand new so if you really run out of luck you can just buy a new one and forget you ever broke all the bolts off in it or ground the heads off of them all or something. Also buy some new J-bolts (part number J3240023) and just cut the old ones with bolt cutters instead of unthreading nylock nuts over 6 inches of nasty threads. The nuts you need are 3/8-16 nylocks (I prefer stainless but anything goes) and a regular old 3/8 grade 8 washer and both are cheap at home depot. You'll want new hose clamps for the fill and vent tubes as well. I like to undo the end at the fill neck not the end at the tank because there's better access and it's easier to thread the hoses through the frame rail already on the tank than it is to finagle them onto the tank while pulling them as far through the frame rail as you can. I usually take the old hose clamps off with carefully measured visegrip/diagonal cutter violence and install brand new ones. Top Hats Monthly posted:Also, with the 4.0L, what mileage should I say no sale if the body isn't rusted? The ones I've found out-of-state, not rusted all seem to exceed 180K miles Top Hats Monthly posted:Would I be dumb for buying a ZJ with 200K milage on the odometer. It has the 4.0L engine, it appears to have no rust but has some rocker panel damage and a cracked rear bumper. Also remember that the plastic door cladding and rocker cladding hides some gnarly rust real well. I have taken the plastic off and found no metal behind it before.
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Jeep whisperer 
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Jeep whisperer I'm convinced Kastein is secretly a jeep.
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I personally identify as a Wagoneer
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IOwnCalculus posted:That hood is all kinds of jacked up and in a way that I don't think it's just been popped. Your hood doesn't open from the front-right and rear-left corners?
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kastein posted:
You have a way of making this that are so horrible sound so elegant. Also I know your secretly a j truck that became self aware sometime in the eighties and has been trying to take Chrysler down ever since.
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Late 90s chrysler wiring is far better than anything AMC or early 90s Chrysler ever dreamed of so no. And on the clamps I'm talking about, it's usually pretty easy. Grab the tightening screw/turnbuckle part with a pair of good pliers or a long reach set of dykes and give it a good solid twist/yank and it usually breaks off right there.
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kastein posted:
Yeah definitely cut off the old bolts, I worked off my old nylocks with a ratcheting box-end and they were miserable. I also was able to find some long-enough Jbolts at a specialty bolt place in my area for a few bucks each. As a side note, I've noticed a lot of the OEM bolts in junkyards (like 75%) are bent near the top of the threads, as were mine. What's up with that? Also Kastein your avatar is like a disco tonight, did Aggro Craig get off probation or something? 
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Anything that is through bolted is NOT worth your time, just cut it off and buy new.
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Jeeps are pretty popular with IT people apparently! We all try and park together on Fridays, just because.
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I assume most of those people are also obsessed with "ever-day carry" discussions and all of them have a leatherman or a gerber or something on their person at all times.
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mattfl posted:Jeeps are pretty popular with IT people apparently! "A substantial minority prefers ‘outdoorsy’ clothing — hiking boots (“in case a mountain should suddenly spring up in the machine room”, as one famous parody put it), khakis, lumberjack or chamois shirts, and the like." http://catb.org/jargon/html/dress.html
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FreelanceSocialist posted:I assume most of those people are also obsessed with "ever-day carry" discussions and all of them have a leatherman or a gerber or something on their person at all times. Nah, there are only 2 of us that are into guns. I have a leatherman in the Jeep for stuff. We're all pretty normal guys and gals!
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mattfl posted:Jeeps are pretty popular with IT people apparently! Is this why I can't find a cheap jeep
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Is this why I can't find a cheap jeep Yes, we've bought them all!
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Theres a JK here with a CISCO vanity plate on it. IT dudes either like jeeps or subarus.
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Slow is Fast posted:Theres a JK here with a CISCO vanity plate on it. IT dudes either like jeeps or subarus. We have a CISCO guy with a Jeep here too, it's not redish color is it?
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mattfl posted:Jeeps are pretty popular with IT people apparently!  We're remarkably light on Jeeps at my office. One other WJ and an SRT8 GC once in a while. There was a fairly modified XJ but he decided he didn't wheel it often enough.
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mattfl posted:We have a CISCO guy with a Jeep here too, it's not redish color is it? Its either red or black. Maine plate.
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This is amazing
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Is there someone I can bounce various craigslist ads off of so I don't ruin the thread further?IOwnCalculus posted:
Wow, that's remarkably accurate I think
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Post the ads here IMO - I love picking jeeps apart.
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Astonishing Wang posted:Post the ads here IMO - I love picking jeeps apart. I'm TERRIBLE with used cars, I only know how to understand brand new vehicles, so feel free to call me an idiot! I'm decent with a wrench but I don't want to devote 100% of my time to it http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/ctd/5247850361.html http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/ctd/5248994973.html http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/cto/5244929513.html http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/cto/5212776287.html If you want to discuss more intimately, I'll be easiest to reach through steam or PMs http://steamcommunity.com/id/sadbaddad Top Hats Monthly fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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I like the first one the most--it looks pretty clean and the price is kind of in the ballpark for a dealer (for reference I paid $3500 for my '99 XJ with 140k miles in a private party sale a few years ago). Only gotcha with that year is the head casting issue that made the head prone to cracking: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1076299 Other folks might be able to chime in on how bad an issue that is and what to worry about. edit: The rear springs on that first one do look like they're sagging a bit (notice how close the rear tires are to the fender vs. the front tires). It's not a major issue but just something to nitpick and help deal them down. Eventually you'll probably want to replace the springs.
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gently caress no on that WJ - $7k is delusional. I paid $6k for a mint '03 Limited with the 4.7HO and 124k miles. Mods don't add value, and even if they did, there's not $5k worth of mods on that $2k heap.Astonishing Wang posted:This is amazing Everything on this is dead loving on.
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I was hoping you'd post a bunch of beat up built 4x4s with hillbilly suspensions  This one looks pretty good to me - but I'd say it's at least $1k overpriced. 180k miles should be a good bargaining chip, along with the ding on the front bumper Some people will tell you not to buy a anything with the 5.2, and 200k might be a lot on that motor. I'd say it's overpriced. This one is parts-only, no title. Would you want to mess with that? This one looks pretty good but is stupid at the price - Dude put too much work into it and is trying to recoup as much as possible. 200k is a lot of life on a Minnesota truck too I think. Sorry, that wasn't much help.
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The parts only one I don't remember copy pasting...huh. I've got bronchitis. I'll blame it on that. Also this: http://duluth.craigslist.org/cto/5243974834.html Feel free to look on MN/WI Craigslist for me though, since I suck 
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Holy poo poo this is awesome edit: needs some sort of combination of the code monkey and the info architect only instead of a keyboard or a pencil, he has a tiny fire extinguisher and everything is on fire and he's on fire and there's a client dancing around with a gas can... that would accurately depict my job. FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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So I picked up a jeep finally. 2002 TJ Sport 5 sp standard with 177000km (about 110K miles) on it. $3000 CAD. Has some rust blisters on the fenders but honestly the best shape one I found in my price range. Hard and soft top included, also running boards (not attached obviously). Needs brake hard lines redone for safety inspection. I'm going to pick up the Omix Ada hard line kit from Amazon and hopefully have it insured and on the road sometime in the next week.  Was quite fun driving it home. I think I'm going to like this. [    
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Faded Mars posted:So I picked up a jeep finally. You found that for 2200 USD?  http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/ctd/5242970611.html Top Hats Monthly fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 3, 2015 |
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that is a loving steal. you realize the hardtop alone is worth $1000 US, easy? edit: you could legitimately make a lot of money off this, almost immediately, if you sell in the right market. just fyi.
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For anyone not following my thread, I'm about to do a spring perch repair on a WJ:   Using 3" ID Sch 40 pipe with 1/4" plate steel for a cap. I'll post up results when I get done with it.
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kastein posted:Any mileage, make sure the cold idle oil pressure is 35 bare minimum, 40 preferred minimum, hot idle should be at least 15, preferably at least 20, and operating pressure at 40 or higher. As long as it doesn't make bad noises all of those are probably true. Oh, is this a thing? My XJ is currently cold idling at 60 or so as usual, but hot idling down to 45. Normal operating pressure though.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:You found that for 2200 USD? Have you looked in somewhat nearby cities (Madison/Chicago/Milwaukee)?
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