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Zurreco posted:Doesn't Orgeron absolutely hate USC brass for what they did to him? There's no way he comes back unless it involves at least a new AD. I guess he played the game so maybe there could be some painkiller stuff or whatever in addition to the booze but pretty much what Frackie said. Alcoholism on it's own is plenty enough to wreck your life it's it's bad enough.
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Zurreco posted:I wonder what Sark's deal is. It can't just be drinking, right? Have you never seen a real, true to form alcoholic? It's horrifying. we all joke about being drunks or whatever but someone who actually is one is a sight to behold.
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Crotch Bat posted:Do people not understand how bad alcoholism can be? Do yourself a favor and don't read the comments on ESPN then.
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Oct 11, 2015 23:07
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Bip Roberts posted:It's not too late to correct the mistake and rehire Coach O. Yes it is, do not even think of taking him from LSU. You can't have him
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FizFashizzle posted:Have you never seen a real, true to form alcoholic? Sure, but Sark wasn't anywhere near where he is now when he was at UW. If it is just drinking, I don't see how it didn't happen when he was rebuilding in Seattle. This city drives you to drink without the stress of staring down Oregon and Stanford every season.
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I don't think anyone knows enough about the situation to say what happened, but it seems pretty clear that he has a legitimate issue if he's showing up to work drunk
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Komet posted:Maryland's performance might be terrible, but why fire a coach mid season? That seems much worse on the short term, if not also in the long term. In theory why you do it is to get an early start on the coaching search and to salvage the current recruiting class. It's important to note that Maryland doesn't have a great class but they do have a QB in Dwayne Haskins who is one of the 3-4 best in the country for this cycle and he's the type of QB they could rebuild around if they can secure a coach that he wants to play for instead of Edsall.
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Thoughts on Maryland: I think they made the decision, as CB said, to try and get a start on hiring and try to salvage the recruiting class; the problem for them is they're getting out recruited in their back yard. (It's almost like Randy Edsall was a lazy rear end recruiter and the writing for that was on the wall.) On USC: It's pretty clear that if Sark is coming to practice drunk, he's got a problem. Reports are coming out now that people were concerned about his drinking even before he got hired at USC and that boosters told Hayden not to hire him because of it. I would think, given the pretty big whiffs on coaches Haden had made, they'd be ahead to fire him too and just start over. quote:"The truth is USC is a storied program, and since this whole debacle with Reggie (Bush) the school has floundered,” said one USC source Sunday afternoon. “Hiring (Lane) Kiffin was a mistake, and then you follow up that mistake by hiring Sark, who is not that much different than Kiffin? All of the former players are so mad. I don’t know how it could get to this point. This stuff never happens at other schools, but it keeps happening at USC because of the people in charge don’t seem to take anything seriously.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:On USC: It's pretty clear that if Sark is coming to practice drunk, he's got a problem. Reports are coming out now that people were concerned about his drinking even before he got hired at USC and that boosters told Hayden not to hire him because of it. I would think, given the pretty big whiffs on coaches Haden had made, they'd be ahead to fire him too and just start over. There were always rumors about him showing up to recruiting events and whatnot drunk when he was at UW. And uh, I guess it might not have just been during practice: InsideUSC @InsideUSC BREAKING: #USC assistants pulled Steve Sarkisian out of player huddle on sideline during Arizona State game. Believed he was not sober. 4:10 PM - 11 Oct 2015
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UW dodged a real bullet here. USC can probably come back from embarrassing mid season firings but this would be really bad for Washington.
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Zifnab posted:There were always rumors about him showing up to recruiting events and whatnot drunk when he was at UW. scrolling through InsideUSC's timeline over the last day or so is pretty crazy
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A head coach being drunk during the game is one of the craziest things I can remember happening in college football. wow
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Marquis de Pyro posted:A head coach being drunk during the game is one of the craziest things I can remember happening in college football. wow I legit assume on any given Saturday a couple head coaches are wasted.
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Thoguh posted:I legit assume on any given Saturday a couple head coaches are wasted.
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Thoguh posted:I legit assume on any given Saturday a couple head coaches are wasted. Yeah, and I bet if we went back to the 70s, half of them probably had a couple whiskeys before the game
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Thoguh posted:I legit assume on any given Saturday a couple head coaches are wasted. It's actually the one time George O'Leary is sober...
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I would be shocked if Mike Leach hasn't been drunk at least once on a Saturday. It would explain his "gently caress it, keep throwing the ball" air raid approach.
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Zurreco posted:I would be shocked if Mike Leach hasn't been drunk at least once on a Saturday. It would explain his "gently caress it, keep throwing the ball" air raid approach. Some coaches should be drunk as a requirement.
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Zurreco posted:I would be shocked if Mike Leach hasn't been drunk at least once on a Saturday. It would explain his "gently caress it, keep throwing the ball" air raid approach. He was just following the lead of the Cougs' most prominent fan RIP wheez
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The Glumslinger posted:Yeah, and I bet if we went back to the 70s, half of them probably had a couple whiskeys before the game Before, during, and after.
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Oct 12, 2015 06:10
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Oct 12, 2015 06:38
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Kim Jong Il posted:Apparently some serious poo poo is about to go down in Piscataway this week. "Firing Bad Coach" is hardly "serious poo poo"
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Zurreco posted:I would be shocked if Mike Leach hasn't been drunk at least once on a Saturday. It would explain his "gently caress it, keep throwing the ball" air raid approach. He's a Mormon, so no.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:He's a Mormon, so no. Cusses a lot for a Mormon...
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Kim Jong Il posted:Apparently some serious poo poo is about to go down in Piscataway this week. No one even knows where that is
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:"Firing Bad Coach" is hardly "serious poo poo" They've found some really bad things that he did, well bad by our standards.
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Kim Jong Il posted:They've found some really bad things that he did, well bad by our standards. Isn't Rutgers desperately searching for a reason to fire him with cause so they don't have to pay his buyout?
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JesustheDarkLord posted:No one even knows where that is Piscataway/New Brunswick is where Rutgers is.
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So some of the local Athens/UGA publications have started on the "fire Richt" train and the real questions that I have about that is: for who? Only person that I could remotely see is Kirby Smart but it would have to be for a lot of money for a first time head coach, and that's is only if UGA wanted to keep doing the whole Tuscaloosa Football of the East hiring experiment that they've got going on currently.
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KKKLIP ART posted:So some of the local Athens/UGA publications have started on the "fire Richt" train and the real questions that I have about that is: for who? Only person that I could remotely see is Kirby Smart but it would have to be for a lot of money for a first time head coach, and that's is only if UGA wanted to keep doing the whole Tuscaloosa Football of the East hiring experiment that they've got going on currently. Honestly if UGA doesn't hire Smart soon, Alabama is probably going to keep him when Saban retires. Gotta hop on the Smart train before it leaves the station. Also you totally want to keep the Tuscaloosa East thing rolling, the only thing you're missing atm is a good game day coach. Smart is at least as good of a recruiter as Richt so the talent won't drop off even if he fails.
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KKKLIP ART posted:So some of the local Athens/UGA publications have started on the "fire Richt" train and the real questions that I have about that is: for who? Only person that I could remotely see is Kirby Smart but it would have to be for a lot of money for a first time head coach, and that's is only if UGA wanted to keep doing the whole Tuscaloosa Football of the East hiring experiment that they've got going on currently. Smart would be an obvious choice, but I think Muschamp's failures will bring more scrutiny to the Saban-defensive-disciple label that would've traditionally been a vote of confidence.
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MourningView posted:Well I mean they have been awful the last two years even beyond that game but lol gently caress off Dan McCarney you shithead I'm really glad UNT has sucked lately because otherwise there would be a significant contingent of ISU fans clamoring for him to come back. I thought he had UNT doing pretty well the last couple years, but apparently not! Speaking of current ISU coaches, I don't see how Paul Rhoads survives the year. They are going to be underdogs for every remaining game, and maybe double digit underdogs for all of them. I will be surprised if they win one more game, and another 2 win season will not cut it.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:He's a Mormon, so no. He's a well noted terrible Mormon who, back in Lubbock, would bar crawl with the best of them. Never paid for a drink. Though he doesn't coach drunk. That's just him.
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Kim Jong Il posted:They've found some really bad things that he did, well bad by our standards. This would be impressive given that your standards include coaches literally assaulting student athletes
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Thoguh posted:I legit assume on any given Saturday a couple head coaches are wasted. I mean I dunno about wasted, but I'm sure there are more than a few functional alcoholics in the ranks, just like any other business. Those "always drinking, rarely obviously drunk" types. Of course, most of them are functional until they're not. Sounds like Sark finally went from Roger Sterling to Freddy Rumsen.
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