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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Perverse Unisistent.

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AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
http://radio.starcitizenbase.com/the-base-at-citizencon-a-discussion-with-erin-roberts/

Skip to 10 minutes to hear how the friendly interviewer scans for Star Citizen articles every day, doesn't really read them but corrects people in the comments.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

AP posted:

the friendly interviewer scans for Star Citizen articles every day, doesn't really read them but corrects people in the comments.

What's funny is that no one, not even the most devout of cult members, would question that this is a true statement.

Malleovic
Sep 8, 2007

OMGGG you could've tripped and DIED

Justin Tyme posted:

It's looking like what Illfonic did is a complete write off at this point, I wonder how much money went down the drain for that. I feel like they are learning very quickly that the separate modules are the wrong way to go given that they become so divergent that it's impossible to merge them together without basically redoing everything. They probably wasted a whole year's worth of development to figure this out.

This is my suspicion as well, and the fact that they seem to be reversing course now is kindof cold comfort since we don't know what other terrible decisions were made early on that are going to be expensive to fix.

Krogort
Oct 27, 2013

Dapper Dan posted:

You are. He broke a contract with Kevin Costner, was sued into oblivion, blacklisted by SAG and forced to sell off his production company because there was no possible way he could work in Hollywood anymore (also to probably pay for the money he lost).

He failed in Hollywood, is bitter and used MMO money to make a 10 hour movie.

Now they're telling me I'm the loser who never acomplished anything and that they put me on their poo poo list so I never get to enter their space corporation and come visit their Idris frigate.
Citizenship must be earned I guess.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

AP posted:

http://radio.starcitizenbase.com/the-base-at-citizencon-a-discussion-with-erin-roberts/

Skip to 10 minutes to hear how the friendly interviewer scans for Star Citizen articles every day, doesn't really read them but corrects people in the comments.

Erin's response is actually pretty reasonable.

"Everyone's entitled to their opinion and can share it if they want, we can only just focus on making the game playable and so forth"

I'd imagine if Chris was asked that same question he'd go on a rant about haters etc. being because of someone in particular etc.

Jst0rm
Sep 16, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Justin Tyme posted:

It's looking like what Illfonic did is a complete write off at this point, I wonder how much money went down the drain for that. I feel like they are learning very quickly that the separate modules are the wrong way to go given that they become so divergent that it's impossible to merge them together without basically redoing everything. They probably wasted a whole year's worth of development to figure this out.

I recall the initial price they paid was around 500k. I dont know about overages.

Dapper Dan
Dec 16, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Krogort posted:

Now they're telling me I'm the loser who never acomplished anything and that they put me on their poo poo list so I never get to enter their space corporation and come visit their Idris frigate.
Citizenship must be earned I guess.

Don't worry, it seems the scrapped everything and were forced to start over. I'm sure they'll be able to play their dream game Chris Robert's 10 hour sequel to Wing Command in the near future.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
For all those wondering how this is even a thing, Chris Roberts basically stumbled on to a way to monetise this attitude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Ch6N8QT00

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Wafflz posted:

What's funny is that no one, not even the most devout of cult members, would question that this is a true statement.

It ends with the interviewer asking for orders on how he can help more and Erin sounding incredibly embarrassed. Erin sounds like a decent guy, asked twice for his response to criticism of Star Citizen he sticks to a line about just wanting to get the game made and out to people as that's the best response.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Unfunny Poster posted:

Erin's response is actually pretty reasonable.

"Everyone's entitled to their opinion and can share it if they want, we can only just focus on making the game playable and so forth"

I'd imagine if Chris was asked that same question he'd go on a rant about haters etc. being because of someone in particular etc.


AP posted:

It ends with the interviewer asking for orders on how he can help more and Erin sounding incredibly embarrassed. Erin sounds like a decent guy, asked twice for his response to criticism of Star Citizen he sticks to a line about just wanting to get the game made and out to people as that's the best response.

Regardless of how true or bullshit any of the Escapist / DSmart / DSmart's Illuminati of Goons from the Center of the Earth stuff may or may not have been, Erin's nose-to-the-grindstone reaction is exactly the route that should have been taken by the entirety of the CIG management team that so easily overreacted / misplayed their hands upon external media pressure. It's not exactly a leap of imagination to guess that it can be lovely to work at a game dev shop, and it's already pretty clear Sandra Roberts is really weird, so it's not like anything particularly revolutionary came up. It could have blown over more than it did.

Tank Boy Ken
Aug 24, 2012
J4G for life
Fallen Rib
Fun thing: Derek Smart stated that he thinks that Erin Roberts is a good producer and he's a good person to lead a big project.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Bitter Beard posted:

It's awesome how the motion capture went from a stretch goal to the one and only thing they consistently show as functioning. Social module shows the motion captured dancing, this star marine nonsense shows the hand over throat = death.

Not since the 90s or when Christ Robert's was making games before has anybody given a gently caress about the emote in any given game.

Uh gently caress you, they included the Carlton dance in Destiny

https://twitter.com/fms_twisted/status/653620912344829952

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

He should hire Erin for a Battlecrusier or two.

Bitter Beard
Sep 11, 2001

I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing!!

Bolow posted:

Uh gently caress you, they included the Carlton dance in Destiny

https://twitter.com/fms_twisted/status/653620912344829952

Oh well poo poo, let me just go buy back in then! Everything is going to be all right!

Synchronized
Jul 24, 2011
Tick Tock.
Erin for space-president. Too bad he's not the Roberts in command, seems like he's actually got things together.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


News Flash: Game developer studio is run by assholes who herp and derp on the HR and project management fronts. In the process of buffoonery, several innocent people lost employment.

We read that poo poo every day. Why CIG thought they have to not just bear the brunt of prodding but try to prove themselves exceptional and above any reproach is weird. It's a gigantic fuckup.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

For all those wondering how this is even a thing, Chris Roberts basically stumbled on to a way to monetise this attitude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Ch6N8QT00

Is this real?

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

For all those wondering how this is even a thing, Chris Roberts basically stumbled on to a way to monetise this attitude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Ch6N8QT00

I just don't understand how someone gets to this sort of point.

I just don't! I mean...I'm spergy as gently caress about certain things (though I keep it to myself better than most). poo poo, Mass Effect mentioned there? Yea, I sperg about it a lot. But even I would never go full-out retard like this.

And waste even more time making a video to proclaim it to the world too!

How does a human being get to this point?

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



Octopode posted:

Recently, they successfully deconflicted and re-merged those forked builds (prior to GamesCom), and subsequent to that (between GamesCom and CitCon), they successfully merged that combined branch into the main branch that also contained things like the large world changes and multicrew stuff.
Ah, so you'll be proving this to us then?

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

For all those wondering how this is even a thing, Chris Roberts basically stumbled on to a way to monetise this attitude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Ch6N8QT00
not_a_cult.avi

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Neo Rasa posted:

Is this real?

Yeah the original one got taken down because the dude got loving mocked relentlessly for it

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

For all those wondering how this is even a thing, Chris Roberts basically stumbled on to a way to monetise this attitude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Ch6N8QT00

That's part of it. I believe it's been discussed several threads back that fear of loss plays into the LTI thing too.

Edit: Rather, that LTI plays on fear of loss.

kikkelivelho
Aug 27, 2015

The complete lack of airlocks in the ships is really triggering me. Also the ships have no standardized docking mechanism so they all need to land onto these massive dumb pads.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Neo Rasa posted:

Is this real?

If I remember correctly, it's the Game Theory guy who is really lovely with his analysis/breakdown of video games.

Malleovic
Sep 8, 2007

OMGGG you could've tripped and DIED

kikkelivelho posted:

The complete lack of airlocks in the ships is really triggering me. Also the ships have no standardized docking mechanism so they all need to land onto these massive dumb pads.

The RSI ships will supposedly have this: http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/C12a

As far as I know only the Constellation and the Aurora have them.

Io_
Oct 15, 2012

woo woo

Pillbug

Decrepus posted:

Is there a Reddit leadership caste and that is why people from there think we have one?

Yes, the mods. The 3rd party tools they have access to are pretty powerful and allow reasonably effective automodding of topics/posts based on keywords. That with the voting buttons allows you to create some pretty drat good echo chambers.

Szcwczuk
Dec 20, 2011

I ruin everything
Something awful isn't much better at not being and echo chamber however the voting part of reddit makes topics really stale a boring.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


kikkelivelho posted:

The complete lack of airlocks in the ships is really triggering me. Also the ships have no standardized docking mechanism so they all need to land onto these massive dumb pads.

The need for big open pads is dumb, but several ships had docking collars -- or did -- as part of their package descriptions waaaaay back when. The Aurora was one of them.

Not that RSI is loving keeping to anything promised back in the good 'ol days, but there it is.

e: black-and-white grimacing face dude beat me to it.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


SirPhoebos posted:

So if CIG is reopening the market for ships, wouldn't that crash the grey market, meaning anyone that wanted out had to get a direct refund?

I forgot that I had my already-sold Idris-M left up on another listing. I had a $2400 dollar offer on it today. This is in spite of the fact that there is currently a $2500 package where you get an Idris along with like 6 other ships.

"Yes," says the grey marketer, "But that picture of a capital ship doesn't have a picture of a rail gun attached."

Rest assured the grey market is fine.

Pogue Ma Hoon
Oct 17, 2013

I like a nice pair of slacks.

Potato Salad posted:

News Flash: Game developer studio is run by assholes who herp and derp on the HR and project management fronts. In the process of buffoonery, several innocent people lost employment.

We read that poo poo every day. Why CIG thought they have to not just bear the brunt of prodding but try to prove themselves exceptional and above any reproach is weird. It's a gigantic fuckup.

Do they not have PR people who could've told them to NOT feed a troll? I'm actually embarrassed for them.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
Sandi expresses sorrow, not anger, about the lies asserted about her.

This is an interesting interview-- given that she's said very little about the Escapist story so far. She denies all characterizations of her actions and behavior. Sandi seems to deny that any anonymous CIG source said anything about her, expresses sorrow about the state of humanity. From her opening statements, she is apparently is accusing The Escapist of just making up their sources altogether. Yet later comments describe a very vocal minority.

Talking about the Escapist article:

quote:

"In terms of the personal attacks, I would say anger isn't really the response that I had to that. I would say, seeing all the lies was more like, I was just really sad. I wasn't angry about it because none of this is true, I think it just made me really-- disappointed. In humanity is general. Because... on a lot of levels. Because, there's 'supposed' sources saying this, which isn't true, then there's journalists publishing it, which isn't true. There's like a whole level of humanity that I'm like, 'Wow- really? You really want... I mean, I I just. Ugh. It was, I just, I just remember being really-- sad, thinking, 'Wow, I've done all this work, to to give to people, and yet- that is what you get back, from, from a very vocal minority. However it's so extreme."
It's very confusing and speaks, once again, to the need for a professional publicist to help streamline a coherent narrative in response to an image crisis.



"The reality is, I haven't taken a holiday since I started."

Star Citizen helped someone to quit smoking (22:50). Sandi is excited to recount how much money the former smoker saved by no longer buying cigarettes, which prompts the host to helpfully note, "That's like 17 Idrises..."

TRUTH: Whether you spend money on CIG or CIGs, you are wasting your money. But CIGs at least give you a nicotine kick.

She complains that she's been the only marketing employee at CIG for three years, which is itself a lie-- she's had help from other people, she just keeps firing them.

I'll edit in any other interesting bits if I hear any.

G0RF fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Oct 12, 2015

Jst0rm
Sep 16, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Szcwczuk posted:

Something awful isn't much better at not being and echo chamber however the voting part of reddit makes topics really stale a boring.

we admit we are horrible people though.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Honestly who knows what the hell CR was thinking he was doing with an 8-hour proof that he can neither write nor employ a delicate hand sensitive issues.


Sarsapariller posted:

I forgot that I had my already-sold Idris-M left up on another listing. I had a $2400 dollar offer on it today.

The dream of a massive gently caress-off LTI fleet is diminishing.

kikkelivelho
Aug 27, 2015

Malleovic posted:

The RSI ships will supposedly have this: http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/C12a

As far as I know only the Constellation and the Aurora have them.

I assume croberts has not stated how those are actually going to work.

bawbaw
Nov 28, 2007
<Center Justified>
So I was out of town over the weekend, just checking in to see how Derek did on his predictions and his State of Delusion broadcast?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

G0RF posted:



"The reality is, I haven't taken a holiday since I started."

That was clearly a business trip for R&D purposes.

Grinning Goblin
Oct 11, 2004

Unfunny Poster posted:

That was clearly a business trip for R&D purposes.

"How do we turn these docks into Star Docks?"

Jst0rm
Sep 16, 2012
Grimey Drawer

bawbaw posted:

So I was out of town over the weekend, just checking in to see how Derek did on his predictions and his State of Delusion broadcast?

he did good the price was $5 off and the name was different but people think it was changed because of his predictions.

Grinning Goblin
Oct 11, 2004

$170 is simply too much for a single potato.

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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

bawbaw posted:

So I was out of town over the weekend, just checking in to see how Derek did on his predictions and his State of Delusion broadcast?

The name and the price of the new ship revealed were off, but only slightly.

The name wasn't "Vindicator" but "Sabre" but the fluff text kept calling it "POTATO" which makes people think it was changed last minute.

The price was also not $175, but the low low price of $170.

Everything else was pretty much spot on.

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