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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Oberleutnant posted:

The urban class conscious proletariat is best represented by simple, unaffected ready salted in a red bag.

Does anyone, anywhere, actually eat ready salted? Why? Do people hate flavour that much?

Edit: 129 AD looks like it was a really boring year.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's OK in a sandwich but I wouldn't sit down and just eat a bag of salty greasy potato.

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



Guavanaut posted:

Is that because there's something inherently wrong with mason jars? Because if so Comrade Corbyn's jam club would like a word.

Epic fail me, I meant kilner jars. Which seem to be far more commonly used in posh kitchens.

This has also set me off mooning over pictures of miniature fruit trees and wondering if they're worth it. It's a rare thing that makes me miss country living, but I do love the little barter economy that pops up at this time of year when everyone swaps stuff out of their gardens.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I like ready salted sometimes although cheese & onion is my preference.

The best crisp-like snacks, however, are scampi fries.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Acaila posted:

This has also set me off mooning over pictures of miniature fruit trees and wondering if they're worth it. It's a rare thing that makes me miss country living, but I do love the little barter economy that pops up at this time of year when everyone swaps stuff out of their gardens.

Are they actually edible? I was under the impression that most edible fruits have to be cloned, and making alterations to them usually makes them unpalatable.

If you've got a bright room you could do cherry tomatoes or something.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Oberleutnant posted:

I like ready salted sometimes although cheese & onion is my preference.

The best crisp-like snacks, however, are scampi fries.

Scampi Fries and Bacon Fries are like performance enhancing drugs for my drinking skills


OwlFancier posted:

Are they actually edible? I was under the impression that most edible fruits have to be cloned, and making alterations to them usually makes them unpalatable.

If you've got a bright room you could do cherry tomatoes or something.

You can get "patio" trees that stay small/in a column rather than spreading, and for the size they produce lots of normal fruit, dwarf trees tend to have the weird fruits.



There's shitloads of fruit trees that just go unpicked, this year me and the missis made dozens of jars of jam from just a few hours picking (crab apples are loving amazing done right).

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

feedmegin posted:

Does anyone, anywhere, actually eat ready salted? Why? Do people hate flavour that much?

My mum almost never eats any flavour but ready salted.

In the news today, Theresa May criticises the police for not having enough black officers. This call for greater diversity seems somewhat at odds with her standard policy, shall we say.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

TACD posted:

Here's a good read. I was going to bold parts but honestly I think the whole thing is worth reading:

Apologies if I hosed up any paragraphs, I'm copy/pasting on my phone.

That is a really good read.

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
I am the bougiest motherfucker in that the only crisps I bought while in Brighton were made of parsnips and beets flavoured with salt, honey and pepper.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Kokoro Wish posted:

I am the bougiest motherfucker in that the only crisps I bought while in Brighton were made of parsnips and beets flavoured with salt, honey and pepper.

I don't hold with the honey, but beetroot and parsnip crisps are really nice. They're also common root vegetables, so can count as proletarian.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Lord of the Llamas posted:

I enjoyed most of the article until the author reached his "big data" section. Polling is literally the opposite of big data as it's using a small sample to estimate the true proportions using a model, i.e. the weightings. The models were flawed (although the FPTP system massively exaggerated how far off the polls were) and this is actually not a surprise in retrospect due to the multiple seismic occurrences in UK politics as mentioned and the pollsters having no new ground truth data to recalibrate their models against prior to the election. Ironically the author's lack of understanding here kind of proves their point - that the commentariat don't understand these things well yet use them to back up their opinions constantly.

A lot of journalists etc seem to work under the assumption that "big data" = numbers, with computers involved somehow

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Netflix and Chillingham.

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



Where does Worcestershire sauce rank on the proley-ness of flavours?

il_cornuto
Oct 10, 2004

Jack the Lad posted:

Because contractors are paid by result (£14k per person who finds a job while on the Programme) they tend to focus their efforts on the people most likely to find jobs - who are also the people least likely to need help. Many of these people would find work with no help at all, and when they do find work while on the Programme it's often not because of anything a contractor has done.

Having suffered through both a4e and working links, their 'efforts' are useless anyway. If you have basic maths and English and know how to fill in application form all they do is get you to change your CV according to constantly conflicting advice over and over again then make sure you've be applied for X jobs whether or not they're suitable. Oh, and make you do the occasional 'course' with useful info like "don't swear at interviews'.

My first session at Working Links had us taking a Myers-Briggs test to see what kind of jobs we should apply for.

Both times I didn't get a job until after I was off the work programme.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Acaila posted:

Where does Worcestershire sauce rank on the proley-ness of flavours?

Inferior to Hendies.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Apropos of nothing but it's been rattling around in my head for a little while.

When did "deficit denier" become a thing?

Like, apparently there are "deficit deniers" roaming around and the news is very keen to know if you are one. And people are very keen to make it clear that they aren't one.

It's like someone autoreplaced the word "holocaust" with "deficit" given the tone of interrogation and importance of not being one.

What does it even mean anyway? Does it mean you pretend there isn't one? That we need to get rid of it? That the pounds were asking to be borrowed and it's their fault anyway? What?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Acaila posted:

Where does Worcestershire sauce rank on the proley-ness of flavours?

my fav, personally

purple also my favourite colour so walkers did a good there

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

Apropos of nothing but it's been rattling around in my head for a little while.

When did "deficit denier" become a thing?

Like, apparently there are "deficit deniers" roaming around and the news is very keen to know if you are one. And people are very keen to make it clear that they aren't one.

It's like someone autoreplaced the word "holocaust" with "deficit" given the tone of interrogation and importance of not being one.

What does it even mean anyway? Does it mean you pretend there isn't one? That we need to get rid of it? That the pounds were asking to be borrowed and it's their fault anyway? What?

It's the Tory attack line whenever Labour try and counter the bullshit narrative about fiscal responsibility. By making it out that they deny it exists or its a problem, they shape the narrative of it being an urgent crisis that they're ignoring.

And yes, it's pure bullshit.

Igiari
Sep 14, 2007

OwlFancier posted:

Apropos of nothing but it's been rattling around in my head for a little while.

When did "deficit denier" become a thing?

Like, apparently there are "deficit deniers" roaming around and the news is very keen to know if you are one. And people are very keen to make it clear that they aren't one.

It's like someone autoreplaced the word "holocaust" with "deficit" given the tone of interrogation and importance of not being one.

What does it even mean anyway? Does it mean you pretend there isn't one? That we need to get rid of it? That the pounds were asking to be borrowed and it's their fault anyway? What?

I just want to know how well a river in Egypt can hear.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I know it's bollocks, it's just weird because a lot of programs and politicians seem to be bandying the term around like it's just a thing that's always been.

Igiari posted:

I just want to know how well a river in Egypt can hear.

It can hear a river in South America.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Oct 22, 2015

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Vauxhall looked at the emissions scandal and thought "how can we get in on this publicity?"

"I'VE GOT IT"

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!
Volkswagen chief executive spotted:



It physically hurts me that there's no more Thick of It, they'd bloody skewer the current lot.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
The current lot can't be parodied

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
It's bittersweet that because of things outside of their control they essentially made a show brutally mocking Labour for three(?) seasons and now we have Tories in power. If you were stupid and missed the point you could actually come to the conclusion The Thick of It had a right wing agenda. It doesn't. No one could have predicted the electorate would actually let these fuckers back in.

As for the EU question it seems that there are two choices: 1) We stay. 2) We go, triggering another Scottish referendum that they win this time and gain independence. Meaning the English now decide what happens to the Union. Don't think the average voter quite realises this because they are stupid beyond belief and I hate them!!!!!

Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Oct 22, 2015

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Armando Iannucci even said that after swine/11 he's given up trying to write new Thick of It plot-lines.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Tesseraction posted:

Vauxhall looked at the emissions scandal and thought "how can we get in on this publicity?"

"I'VE GOT IT"



Maybe they are just being torched by their owners for being horrible handling shitboxes, I can understand that

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Regarde Aduck posted:

It's bittersweet that because of things outside of their control they essentially made a show brutally mocking Labour for three(?) seasons and now we have Tories in power. If you were stupid and missed the point you could actually come to the conclusion The Thick of It had a right wing agenda. It doesn't. No one could have predicted the electorate would actually let these fuckers back in.

This came up a few pages back but they essentially had to stop because the utterly ridiculous community bank thing they made up for the show ended up being put forward as an actual,legit, policy a few weeks later. When they went from parody to documentary they knew it was time to stop.

Wolfsbane
Jul 29, 2009

What time is it, Eccles?

OwlFancier posted:

Are they actually edible? I was under the impression that most edible fruits have to be cloned, and making alterations to them usually makes them unpalatable.

Almost all fruit trees you buy at a garden centre will be cloned (well, grafted, but it's basically the same thing), yes. The fruit bearing part is spliced onto the root system of something tougher, and that determines how big the tree will grow. If you go to a specialist tree nursery they will sell you the same fruit variety in a range of sizes from 1m to 10m+, and they will all produce pretty similar crops.

One thing to check if you want apples in particular is how they pollinate. It's complicated, but basically get something self-pollinating if you don't have space for multiple trees, otherwise you have to start knowing about pollination groups and it's a massive pain. Triploid, in particular, can gently caress right off.

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!

serious gaylord posted:

This came up a few pages back but they essentially had to stop because the utterly ridiculous community bank thing they made up for the show ended up being put forward as an actual,legit, policy a few weeks later. When they went from parody to documentary they knew it was time to stop.
That and "omnishambles" becoming part of common lexicon

SurrealityCheck
Sep 15, 2012

Jedit posted:

I don't hold with the honey, but beetroot and parsnip crisps are really nice. They're also common root vegetables, so can count as proletarian.

I fear vegetable crisps are constantly wheeled out by various people I know who would not be classified as proley... they are definitely fairly bougie : (

The thing that really bothers me is that the kettle crisps salt and vinegar is awful - no flavour whatsoever - but those who are members of the salt and vinegar cognoscenti should be aware of the thoroughly excellent co-op own brand salt and vinegar flavour, which comes in big dark blue bags and is VERY flavoursome.

SurrealityCheck fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Oct 22, 2015

SurrealityCheck
Sep 15, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

Apropos of nothing but it's been rattling around in my head for a little while.

When did "deficit denier" become a thing?

Like, apparently there are "deficit deniers" roaming around and the news is very keen to know if you are one. And people are very keen to make it clear that they aren't one.

It's like someone autoreplaced the word "holocaust" with "deficit" given the tone of interrogation and importance of not being one.

What does it even mean anyway? Does it mean you pretend there isn't one? That we need to get rid of it? That the pounds were asking to be borrowed and it's their fault anyway? What?

It's because they are setting up a dichotomy where there are either people who acknowledge the deficit and by implication the need for its immediate reduction - or those who ignore it, the only possible type of person who would not want to immediately reduce it. The elision this framing commits is obvious...

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you
The best crisps are Lays olive oil and oregano crisps.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

serious gaylord posted:

This came up a few pages back but they essentially had to stop because the utterly ridiculous community bank thing they made up for the show ended up being put forward as an actual,legit, policy a few weeks later. When they went from parody to documentary they knew it was time to stop.

Part of the reason I love 'Corbyn is Solidus Snake' is that our political system has gone from Yes Minister to The thick of It to Black Mirror in obsurdity and there's no reason to think its going to stop there.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Pesmerga posted:

olive oil
get in the bin

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.
The Telegraph's letters page continues to delight

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Oberleutnant posted:

get in the bin

Frito-Lay owns Walkers, so everyone is getting in the bin.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
It's like something out of Viz.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Pissflaps posted:

Netflix and Chillingham.

I wish, the 4G reception there is non-existent.

Context: I stayed in one of the guest suites at Chillingham castle during the summer. It's a proper bonkers place that is full of random junk and lives off its entirely commercially inspired 'Britain's most haunted' reputation. The owner is a decent chap though.

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Oberleutnant posted:

get in the bin

They're totally working class in Italy I stand by my life choices :colbert:

Besides I thought we were friends :(

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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
It was just a lazy joke that Lays is the foreign (and therefore bad) label for the Walkers brand

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